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Started by ugarte, October 11, 2021, 12:34:35 PM

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upprdeck

The difference is that the math major made the money after they did something.  
Should we start giving all math majors 500K a yr and hope 1 does solve some major hypothesis?

George64

Quote from: upprdeckThe difference is that the math major made the money after they did something.  
Should we start giving all math majors 500K a yr and hope 1 does solve some major hypothesis?

Touché
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ugarte

Quote from: upprdeckThe difference is that the math major made the money after they did something.  
Should we start giving all math majors 500K a yr and hope 1 does solve some major hypothesis?
they did what they needed to do in high school to make themselves valuable. why does everyone believe in the market until it leads to results they don't understand / like?

upprdeck

because thats now how NIL is working

a person playing for Cornell might have X value promoting NIL but if a booster wants cornell to win he spends Y value to bring in a better player(s).   There is no attempt to recoop the NIL value.


AMAZON makes oodles of money.. They pay well.  the local place in Ithaca makes didly, so they pay little.   But they dont direct compete against each other to make the same profits
 

in the current NIL world both have to compete against each other and pay the same.

Minn/Mich paying 500K a yr in NIL and cornell paying 5K where are the best players going to go?  and in both cases the money being spent on NIL is a loss leader.  

NIL is not paying the value of the player to the team its the value of a person that wants the team to win.

if a billionaire is a fan he can pay crazy money to a teams NIL since there is no cap and its not really a function of the value returned,

BearLover

I'm generally in favor of redistributing wealth, but it's silly to pretend there aren't downsides to unchecked NIL. It would make Cornell and the vast majority of other college athletic programs totally uncompetitive nationally. I and many here would stop seriously following if we had no chance to win. I hope college hockey never turns into what college football and basketball have become.

upprdeck

this is all the short term goal..   if these sports become about the 10-15 who can actually win it then why do the others bother to play the game and when that happens 90% of the kids lose scholies and chances to perform and make pro money.

While even now NCAAF is really about the top 10 who can win it all there are still 20-30 who can compete but given the non level playing field that NIL creates how long before they decide to bail.  And then all the investment in stadiums and all the TV Money goes away.

In hockey you have the top few but even the bottom 30% can still win games and a team like Colgate can get to the playoffs.

Dafatone

I just want to hear a few players sing the East Hill Car Wash jingle on whcu. Is that so wrong?

shafer

Quote from: DafatoneI just want to hear a few players sing the East Hill Car Wash jingle on whcu. Is that so wrong?

THIS
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ugarte

Quote from: upprdeckbecause thats now how NIL is working

a person playing for Cornell might have X value promoting NIL but if a booster wants cornell to win he spends Y value to bring in a better player(s).   There is no attempt to recoop the NIL value.
the satisfaction of winning IS the NIL value

upprdeck

yup.. so team like mich/osu/tex/ok that are spending 5-10-15 million on NIL how long does that go on.. I suppose with enough money it goes on for awhile..

French Rage

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Quote from: DafatoneI just want to hear a few players sing the East Hill Car Wash jingle on whcu. Is that so wrong?

THIS

Yeah I mean ignoring the actual moral/financial/other-meaningful implications of NIL stuff, I would probably feel a lot different about it if it meant a LOT more college players involved in low-budget local commercials nationwide, rather than just a bunch of NIL collectives where they don't do anything appearance-wise for it.
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billhoward

Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: shafer
Quote from: DafatoneI just want to hear a few players sing the East Hill Car Wash jingle on whcu. Is that so wrong?

THIS

Yeah I mean ignoring the actual moral/financial/other-meaningful implications of NIL stuff, I would probably feel a lot different about it if it meant a LOT more college players involved in low-budget local commercials nationwide, rather than just a bunch of NIL collectives where they don't do anything appearance-wise for it.
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TimV

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: shafer
Quote from: DafatoneI just want to hear a few players sing the East Hill Car Wash jingle on whcu. Is that so wrong?

THIS

Yeah I mean ignoring the actual moral/financial/other-meaningful implications of NIL stuff, I would probably feel a lot different about it if it meant a LOT more college players involved in low-budget local commercials nationwide, rather than just a bunch of NIL collectives where they don't do anything appearance-wise for it.
Jake from State Farm and his NFL/NBA buddies are East Hill Car Wash on a larger stage. The stupefying dullness of onetime sports legends, current legends, annoying people (Flo, the Mayhem Guy, the Farmers' Insurance man in brown), the Lemu Emu, they all say: Insurance is a commodity, may as well shop on price and fallback to having a lawyer ready if a major claim doesn't get paid.

The Mayhem Guy doesn't belong in that list.  He's the best.
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marty

Quote from: TimV
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: shafer
Quote from: DafatoneI just want to hear a few players sing the East Hill Car Wash jingle on whcu. Is that so wrong?

THIS

Yeah I mean ignoring the actual moral/financial/other-meaningful implications of NIL stuff, I would probably feel a lot different about it if it meant a LOT more college players involved in low-budget local commercials nationwide, rather than just a bunch of NIL collectives where they don't do anything appearance-wise for it.
Jake from State Farm and his NFL/NBA buddies are East Hill Car Wash on a larger stage. The stupefying dullness of onetime sports legends, current legends, annoying people (Flo, the Mayhem Guy, the Farmers' Insurance man in brown), the Lemu Emu, they all say: Insurance is a commodity, may as well shop on price and fallback to having a lawyer ready if a major claim doesn't get paid.

The Mayhem Guy doesn't belong in that list.  He's the best.

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Quote from: TimVThe Mayhem Guy doesn't belong in that list.  He's the best.
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