Morgan Barron Tribute Video

[Trotsky]

Lengthy interview with Morgan; not the most polished interviewer, but Morgan shared some nice reflections on his college hockey career.

Vocal fry: making adults sound like 4-year olds for the last two decades.

Morgan was great.

[Scersk '97]

Vocal fry: making adults sound like 4-year olds for the last two decades.

I can't, like, believe that you would, like, make fun of people's voi-saysssssss.

[French Rage]

Vocal fry: making adults sound like 4-year olds for the last two decades.

I can't, like, believe that you would, like, make fun of people's voi-saysssssss.

Relevant: https://www.today.com/video/jeopardy-contestant-laura-ashbys-unusual-lilt-drives-twitter-insane-574005315521

[Scersk '97]

Relevant: https://www.today.com/video/jeopardy-contestant-laura-ashbys-unusual-lilt-drives-twitter-insane-574005315521

And complaints about it engender huffy articles like this one from NPR where—clutching pearls—we are all informed that NPR reporters are going to use their special own voices—thank you very much—whether you like them or not!

I would be concerned if a vocal tic of mine got in the way of informing or entertaining audience members; indeed, it seems like a subject for proper editorial control, but we just don't do that these days, lest someone's toesies get stepped on. There's discussion later on in the article about celebrating diversity in voices. Great! Lately, I've heard some new voices on NPR that don't fit the "General American" accent and come across very well. They make your ears perk up and listen. But vocal fry doesn't. It's not part of any accent; it's a tic that has metastasized out of the "Valley Girl" vocal patterns of the 80s. And the resulting homogeneity from how it's infecting everyone—female and male—is off-putting.

[Trotsky]

Obviously I hate it too, but Twas Ever Thus.  

If you watch a lot of old movies (and by old I mean since the 20s, not the 70's, kids) there have been a succession of these laughable tics infecting young adults thirsty to be cool.  But they succeed each other inevitably and become Age Markers.

Vocal fry brands these mediocrates with the decade they turned 16, like Hippie Squawk and White Privilege Pretending to Be Charlie Parker and Ripping? Rather! Wimbletonese and for all I know Jolson Blackface.  They are affectations, like how every MAGAtard sounds like Hulk Hogan or every 80's gay man sounded like Judy Garland.

It'll pass.  Something worse will take it's place.  Have you seen "Shameless"?  Porkys Thinks It's Howard Hawks on Ridelin is next.

[ugarte]

jesus fucking christ stop trying to intellectualize how you don't like how it sounds when the women are talking

[French Rage]

::popcorn::

[Scersk '97]

jesus fucking christ stop trying to intellectualize how you don't like how it sounds when the women are talking

If you knew me well enough—or at all—you'd know that I'm capable of being, and reasonably qualified to be, critical of any voice I hear. I'll intellectualize about voices until the cows come home and then mull over whether there was too much or too little cowbell.

And I love female voices, just not female voices that trail off into flappy nothingness at the end of every sentence. Male voices that do that, like, say... Ira Glass's? Also completely annoying.

Use vocal fry once in a while for emphasis? Fine. Great! actually. Do it over and over? It's a tic.

Trotsky's point that "this too shall pass" is completely valid. Can't happen soon enough.

[The Rancor]

My mom was a speech pathologist for 30 years, and I never heard the term vocal fry come up until about a week ago when my aunt tweeted about it. I had to google the term. Now, the debate has infested the hockey forum. HOW is THIS the suddenly pressing malady of our society?

[Scersk '97]

My mom was a speech pathologist for 30 years, and I never heard the term vocal fry come up until about a week ago when my aunt tweeted about it. I had to google the term. Now, the debate has infested the hockey forum. HOW is THIS the suddenly pressing malady of our society?

You do realize this is eLynah, right?

There is some pleasure in arguing about things that are ultimately inconsequential.

[osorojo]

Ice hockey is far too fast a game to support vocal fry. Try the crochet website.

[Trotsky]

jesus fucking christ stop trying to intellectualize how you don't like how it sounds when the women are talking

Jesus fucking Christ stop trying to browbeat everybody else.  We all know which conveyor belt you dropped off -- we designed it.  And we all know your ego doesn't brook contradiction of your simplistic received wisdom, you don't need to keep reminding us.

You're actually getting old enough now that you'll soon be the hero who lives to see himself a villain, and the fragile gander's not gonna like that goose sauce.

[Trotsky]

::popcorn::

Accurate.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I'd say, "just drop the puck," but I don't see that happening any time soon.

::help::

[French Rage]

lol.  It's like the way this forum gets into weird discussions most summers, but now we've got the endless summer.