Season's Over

Started by BMac, March 12, 2020, 04:38:52 PM

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The Rancor

Quote from: redice
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: The RancorCan't they play the tournament in the summer, when this dies down a bit?

I wondered that, too. A friend pointed out that for graduated seniors, it may be difficult to get them on the ice if they're either the property of a pro team or off working at an actual job.

But even if that's the case, maybe they could swing something together. If you told me that we'd play the NCAAs in August but our seniors (and almost assuredly Barron) were gone, I'd take it.

I do know keeping ice frozen in the summer can be tough, and that's setting aside the question of whether things will have died down.

Not to mention that re-creating the chemistry that has us on a nine game winning streak would be difficult.   And, imagine the muscle-strains....  UGH!!

I mean, this team did start the season cold with a 10 game winning streak(12 if you count the exhibitions)

osorojo

How about compiling all the performance statistics of top-rated teams accurately (to the third decimal place) and entering them into your favorite program to determine the winner of the D-1 men's and women's college ice hockey championships? Please share your results, and be willing to defend them!

abmarks


jeff '84


KenP

while we're at it let's make it banner for the 1994 Montreal Expos

osorojo

Grim reality: Reputable sources all predict a 1 to 1-1/2 year wait before an effective inoculation against coronavirus is available to the public. On the bright side, Cornellians would be able to make a reasonable claim their women's and men's ice hockey teams were both national champions for two consecutive years.

CU2007

Quote from: osorojoGrim reality: Reputable sources all predict a 1 to 1-1/2 year wait before an effective inoculation against coronavirus is available to the public. On the bright side, Cornellians would be able to make a reasonable claim their women's and men's ice hockey teams were both national champions for two consecutive years.

How so? Already slowing down significantly in China, Singapore etc

ugarte

Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: osorojoGrim reality: Reputable sources all predict a 1 to 1-1/2 year wait before an effective inoculation against coronavirus is available to the public. On the bright side, Cornellians would be able to make a reasonable claim their women's and men's ice hockey teams were both national champions for two consecutive years.

How so? Already slowing down significantly in China, Singapore etc
to take the underlying point at face value (because it's actually interesting) i think his point is that it's slowing down significantly because of the behavioral changes in place, but some of those changes will have to stay in place for a while in the absence of a cure, a vaccine or proven herd immunity.

got to give credit where it's due. it's an interesting point and the joke isn't half bad either.

Swampy

Quote from: The RancorCan't they play the tournament in the summer, when this dies down a bit?

What IF (and this is a BIG if), the NCAA and Ivy League were to schedule a preseason, 2020 NC tourney next fall among the 4 #1 seeds, including special status for players who graduated and/or went pro?

  • Would you be in favor?
  • Would you want a banner if we won?
  • Would you want a banner if we qualified (which would be almost certain)?

This is partly wishful thinking and partly hypothetical to examine the issue of a banner.

And, this may be a bit more likely, what if the NCAA voted to award a shared NC to:
  • The top team according to pwr?
  • The top team according to polls?
  • The top 4 teams at the end of the shortened season?
  • The Top 16?
  • All teams who were stilly playing in their conference championships (on the theory they still had a chance)?

Swampy

Quote from: abmarksA columnist in North Dakota agrees with the people wanting banners.  Pretty well argued opinion

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/hockey/4997821-Commentary-How-should-UND-recognize-this-hockey-season-Hang-a-banner.-.-.-with-a-twist

Quote from: original Grand Forks HeraldIn that sense, UND and Cornell (which is USCHO's No. 1) are every bit as deserving of the national champion label as Nebraska's 1994 football team, Michigan's 1997 team, all those lauded Notre Dame football teams and so many others.
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Hang a banner. But make this one black.
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UND would have to decide the exact label that goes on the banner. It cannot say NCAA national champions, but it could be Pairwise national champions, Pairwise champions, No. 1-ranked, 26-5-4 or something along those lines.

It also would have to decide where to place it. It could be permanently at the end of the green or white banners -- never going between them even when UND raises more. It could be on a different side of the rink, too, completely on its own.

Quote from: edited Grand Forks HeraldIn that sense, UND and Cornell's men's and women's teams (which are USCHO's & USA Today's No. 1's) are every bit as deserving of the national champion label as Nebraska's 1994 football team, Michigan's 1997 team, all those lauded Notre Dame football teams and so many others.
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Hang banners. But make them black.
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Cornell would have to decide the exact label that goes on the banners. They cannot say NCAA national champions, but they both could say "#1 National USCHO & USA Today Polls" or something along these lines, and the women's could also say whatever UND's says about Pairwise.

It also would have to decide where to place them. It could be permanently at the end of the red or white banners -- never going between them even when Cornell raises more. It could be on a different side of the rink, too, completely on their own.


I'm on board with this.

French Rage

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: abmarksA columnist in North Dakota agrees with the people wanting banners.  Pretty well argued opinion

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/hockey/4997821-Commentary-How-should-UND-recognize-this-hockey-season-Hang-a-banner.-.-.-with-a-twist

Quote from: original Grand Forks HeraldIn that sense, UND and Cornell (which is USCHO's No. 1) are every bit as deserving of the national champion label as Nebraska's 1994 football team, Michigan's 1997 team, all those lauded Notre Dame football teams and so many others.
...
Hang a banner. But make this one black.
...
UND would have to decide the exact label that goes on the banner. It cannot say NCAA national champions, but it could be Pairwise national champions, Pairwise champions, No. 1-ranked, 26-5-4 or something along those lines.

It also would have to decide where to place it. It could be permanently at the end of the green or white banners -- never going between them even when UND raises more. It could be on a different side of the rink, too, completely on its own.

Quote from: edited Grand Forks HeraldIn that sense, UND and Cornell's men's and women's teams (which are USCHO's & USA Today's No. 1's) are every bit as deserving of the national champion label as Nebraska's 1994 football team, Michigan's 1997 team, all those lauded Notre Dame football teams and so many others.
...
Hang banners. But make them black.
...
Cornell would have to decide the exact label that goes on the banners. They cannot say NCAA national champions, but they both could say "#1 National USCHO & USA Today Polls" or something along these lines, and the women's could also say whatever UND's says about Pairwise.

It also would have to decide where to place them. It could be permanently at the end of the red or white banners -- never going between them even when Cornell raises more. It could be on a different side of the rink, too, completely on their own.


I'm on board with this.

Yeah I mean it will never be a full NC, but it feels wrong to be...nothing?

And I don't think it's like the Pats 16-0 sad banner.  No one cares in the NFL what you do in the regular season, it's all about the playoffs and winning the SB; always will be.  So trying to take credit for an RS record is like taking credit for best attendance or cleanest seats.  But in a year like this without a postseason, top of the polls is the best you could do; it's gotta be worth SOMETHING.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

ugarte

hang a banner that says nothing but 2020* for all i care but this season was great until it was short-circuited

redice

Quote from: ugartehang a banner that says nothing but 2020* for all i care but this season was great until it was short-circuited

+1    I like it!
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Trotsky

This was Cornell's 5th best winning percentage in the Lynah Era:

1.000  1970  29-0-0
 .948  1967  27-1-1
 .931  1969  27-2-0
 .931  1968  27-2-0
 .862  2020  23-2-4
 .847  2003  30-5-1
 .815  1971  22-5-0
 .815  1966  22-5-0
 .814  2005  27-5-3
 .793  1972  23-6-0
 .788  2018  25-6-2

Beeeej

Sorry, but I just have to share this tweet, and this thread is as good a place as any.

(P.S. This team was amazing, and this season was amazing. I was devastated with each new announcement last week, and I am still barely beginning to recover - I can only imagine how the team and coaches feel.)

https://twitter.com/BeeeejEsq/status/1238206581415620609
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona