Season's Over

[redice]

I am going to undertake a small painting project in our home and begin a fun-filled day of watching the paint dry.  I will consider making a live feed of this event available to ESPN+ for the right price.

[Give My Regards]

This was Cornell's 5th best winning percentage in the Lynah Era:

Code Select Expand

1.000  1970  29-0-0
 .948  1967  27-1-1
 .931  1969  27-2-0
 .931  1968  27-2-0
 .862  2020  23-2-4
 .847  2003  30-5-1
 .815  1971  22-5-0
 .815  1966  22-5-0
 .814  2005  27-5-3
 .793  1972  23-6-0
 .788  2018  25-6-2


Aw for piss sakes, that just makes it worse.

[abmarks]

Can't they play the tournament in the summer, when this dies down a bit?

What IF (and this is a BIG if), the NCAA and Ivy League were to schedule a preseason, 2020 NC tourney next fall among the 4 #1 seeds, including special status for players who graduated and/or went pro?

• Would you be in favor?
• Would you want a banner if we won?
• Would you want a banner if we qualified (which would be almost certain)?

This is partly wishful thinking and partly hypothetical to examine the issue of a banner.

And, this may be a bit more likely, what if the NCAA voted to award a shared NC to:

• The top team according to pwr?
• The top team according to polls?
• The top 4 teams at the end of the shortened season?
• The Top 16?
• All teams who were stilly playing in their conference championships (on the theory they still had a chance)?

None of the above.  The dream is dead. Let it rest in peace.

[Swampy]

This was Cornell's 5th best winning percentage in the Lynah Era:

Code Select Expand

1.000  1970  29-0-0
 .948  1967  27-1-1
 .931  1969  27-2-0
 .931  1968  27-2-0
 .862  2020  23-2-4
 .847  2003  30-5-1
 .815  1971  22-5-0
 .815  1966  22-5-0
 .814  2005  27-5-3
 .793  1972  23-6-0
 .788  2018  25-6-2


I'm glad you presented this. The article about UND also says this year's (UND) team had the school's fifth highest winning percentage in modern history. Interestingly, our current recent .862 is higher than their highest year's .833. At first I thought this was just an artifact of us playing in a weaker league (it is to some extent) because their list includes 3 national championships, but then I looked at our list, with its two national championships plus two losses in the national championship finals, and compared this year's team to some of the illustrious years below it, and I realized our record is very comparable to UND's. This year's season ranks among the best seasons not only in Cornell hockey history, but in college hockey history. And had the team been allowed to finish the season, I have no doubt it's final winning percentage would have considerably higher.

[ursusminor]

This was Cornell's 5th best winning percentage in the Lynah Era:

Code Select Expand

1.000  1970  29-0-0
 .948  1967  27-1-1
 .931  1969  27-2-0
 .931  1968  27-2-0
 .862  2020  23-2-4
 .847  2003  30-5-1
 .815  1971  22-5-0
 .815  1966  22-5-0
 .814  2005  27-5-3
 .793  1972  23-6-0
 .788  2018  25-6-2


I'm glad you presented this. The article about UND also says this year's (UND) team had the school's fifth highest winning percentage in modern history. Interestingly, our current recent .862 is higher than their highest year's .833. At first I thought this was just an artifact of us playing in a weaker league (it is to some extent) because their list includes 3 national championships, but then I looked at our list, with its two national championships plus two losses in the national championship finals, and compared this year's team to some of the illustrious years below it, and I realized our record is very comparable to UND's. This year's season ranks among the best seasons not only in Cornell hockey history, but in college hockey history. And had the team been allowed to finish the season, I have no doubt it's final winning percentage would have considerably higher.

As an RPI fan, I know that I am treading on thin ice whenever I disagree with someone here. If Cornell were to have won the NCAA championship after going undefeated in the ECAC playoffs, they would have a 31-2-4 record for a .892 winning percentage, and one could argue that .892 is considerably higher than the current .862. However, if they won everything until the final game, they would have a 30-3-4 record for a .865 winning percentage which is only marginally better than .862. If they did anything less than that, their percentage would be lower. E.g., a semifinal loss would result in a 29-3-4 record with a .861 percentage, very slightly lower. (A National Championship with a loss in the three-game second round of the ECAC tourney would be 31-3-4 record with a .868 which is also only slightly better than the current record.)

None of this was meant to detract from Cornell's performance this season.

[jtwcornell91]

This was Cornell's 5th best winning percentage in the Lynah Era:

Code Select Expand

1.000  1970  29-0-0
 .948  1967  27-1-1
 .931  1969  27-2-0
 .931  1968  27-2-0
 .862  2020  23-2-4
 .847  2003  30-5-1
 .815  1971  22-5-0
 .815  1966  22-5-0
 .814  2005  27-5-3
 .793  1972  23-6-0
 .788  2018  25-6-2


I'm glad you presented this. The article about UND also says this year's (UND) team had the school's fifth highest winning percentage in modern history. Interestingly, our current recent .862 is higher than their highest year's .833. At first I thought this was just an artifact of us playing in a weaker league (it is to some extent) because their list includes 3 national championships, but then I looked at our list, with its two national championships plus two losses in the national championship finals, and compared this year's team to some of the illustrious years below it, and I realized our record is very comparable to UND's. This year's season ranks among the best seasons not only in Cornell hockey history, but in college hockey history. And had the team been allowed to finish the season, I have no doubt it's final winning percentage would have considerably higher.

As an RPI fan, I know that I am treading on thin ice whenever I disagree with someone here. If Cornell were to have won the NCAA championship after going undefeated in the ECAC playoffs, they would have a 31-2-4 record for a .892 winning percentage, and one could argue that .892 is considerably higher than the current .862. However, if they won everything until the final game, they would have a 30-3-4 record for a .865 winning percentage which is only marginally better than .862. If they did anything less than that, their percentage would be lower. E.g., a semifinal loss would result in a 29-3-4 record with a .861 percentage, very slightly lower. (A National Championship with a loss in the three-game second round of the ECAC tourney would be 31-3-4 record with a .868 which is also only slightly better than the current record.)

None of this was meant to detract from Cornell's performance this season.

It's a testament to what a great record they had this year that even one loss in the playoffs would, under most circumstances, have had a good chance of lowering the overall winning percentage.

[ugarte]

This was Cornell's 5th best winning percentage in the Lynah Era:

Code Select Expand

1.000  1970  29-0-0
 .948  1967  27-1-1
 .931  1969  27-2-0
 .931  1968  27-2-0
 .862  2020  23-2-4
 .847  2003  30-5-1
 .815  1971  22-5-0
 .815  1966  22-5-0
 .814  2005  27-5-3
 .793  1972  23-6-0
 .788  2018  25-6-2


I'm glad you presented this. The article about UND also says this year's (UND) team had the school's fifth highest winning percentage in modern history. Interestingly, our current recent .862 is higher than their highest year's .833. At first I thought this was just an artifact of us playing in a weaker league (it is to some extent) because their list includes 3 national championships, but then I looked at our list, with its two national championships plus two losses in the national championship finals, and compared this year's team to some of the illustrious years below it, and I realized our record is very comparable to UND's. This year's season ranks among the best seasons not only in Cornell hockey history, but in college hockey history. And had the team been allowed to finish the season, I have no doubt it's final winning percentage would have considerably higher.

As an RPI fan, I know that I am treading on thin ice whenever I disagree with someone here. If Cornell were to have won the NCAA championship after going undefeated in the ECAC playoffs, they would have a 31-2-4 record for a .892 winning percentage, and one could argue that .892 is considerably higher than the current .862. However, if they won everything until the final game, they would have a 30-3-4 record for a .865 winning percentage which is only marginally better than .862. If they did anything less than that, their percentage would be lower. E.g., a semifinal loss would result in a 29-3-4 record with a .861 percentage, very slightly lower. (A National Championship with a loss in the three-game second round of the ECAC tourney would be 31-3-4 record with a .868 which is also only slightly better than the current record.)

None of this was meant to detract from Cornell's performance this season.

how dare you, sir

[ursusminor]

This was Cornell's 5th best winning percentage in the Lynah Era:

Code Select Expand

1.000  1970  29-0-0
 .948  1967  27-1-1
 .931  1969  27-2-0
 .931  1968  27-2-0
 .862  2020  23-2-4
 .847  2003  30-5-1
 .815  1971  22-5-0
 .815  1966  22-5-0
 .814  2005  27-5-3
 .793  1972  23-6-0
 .788  2018  25-6-2


I'm glad you presented this. The article about UND also says this year's (UND) team had the school's fifth highest winning percentage in modern history. Interestingly, our current recent .862 is higher than their highest year's .833. At first I thought this was just an artifact of us playing in a weaker league (it is to some extent) because their list includes 3 national championships, but then I looked at our list, with its two national championships plus two losses in the national championship finals, and compared this year's team to some of the illustrious years below it, and I realized our record is very comparable to UND's. This year's season ranks among the best seasons not only in Cornell hockey history, but in college hockey history. And had the team been allowed to finish the season, I have no doubt it's final winning percentage would have considerably higher.

As an RPI fan, I know that I am treading on thin ice whenever I disagree with someone here. If Cornell were to have won the NCAA championship after going undefeated in the ECAC playoffs, they would have a 31-2-4 record for a .892 winning percentage, and one could argue that .892 is considerably higher than the current .862. However, if they won everything until the final game, they would have a 30-3-4 record for a .865 winning percentage which is only marginally better than .862. If they did anything less than that, their percentage would be lower. E.g., a semifinal loss would result in a 29-3-4 record with a .861 percentage, very slightly lower. (A National Championship with a loss in the three-game second round of the ECAC tourney would be 31-3-4 record with a .868 which is also only slightly better than the current record.)

None of this was meant to detract from Cornell's performance this season.

how dare you, sir

It was easy, especially since the ice is probably getting thin in most rinks now. :-D

[redice]

From a USA Today article this morning:

"The NCAA on Friday announced that
Division I athletes could regain lost eligibility
for spring sports seasons that were
canceled due to the pandemic. College
sports' governing body is also considering
enacting similar waivers for athletes
in winter sports – including men's basketball......"

Yes, this article was about basketball.   But, if they're considering it for basketball, is it a stretch to think that hockey could be included?

[Dafatone]

From a USA Today article this morning:

"The NCAA on Friday announced that
Division I athletes could regain lost eligibility
for spring sports seasons that were
canceled due to the pandemic. College
sports' governing body is also considering
enacting similar waivers for athletes
in winter sports – including men's basketball......"

Yes, this article was about basketball.   But, if they're considering it for basketball, is it a stretch to think that hockey could be included?

That would be good and fair. But the more cutthroat part of me worries it would help a lot of opposing teams more. Kaldis was absolutely crucial to this team. Malott was very good. Bauld played an important role. But those are our only seniors, compared to other teams that may have more.

[Swampy]

From a USA Today article this morning:

"The NCAA on Friday announced that
Division I athletes could regain lost eligibility
for spring sports seasons that were
canceled due to the pandemic. College
sports' governing body is also considering
enacting similar waivers for athletes
in winter sports – including men's basketball......"

Yes, this article was about basketball.   But, if they're considering it for basketball, is it a stretch to think that hockey could be included?

That would be good and fair. But the more cutthroat part of me worries it would help a lot of opposing teams more. Kaldis was absolutely crucial to this team. Malott was very good. Bauld played an important role. But those are our only seniors, compared to other teams that may have more.

You may be right. But I was already thinking that despite our losses, next year's team should be as good or better than this year's.

The possibility of extending eligibility also raises an interesting question. According to BRPH, we have five players coming in next fall. If any of this year's seniors or juniors (I'm looking at you, Morgan Barron) decide to stay around to finish unfinished business, would Schafer hold up some of the incoming 2020's?

[ugarte]

any senior that can sign a pro contract is gone regardless of what the ncaa decides. this will affect ecac hockey in very strange ways. we're not losing players to the nba but an extra year would be very helpful to the teams with seniors who are like luke perry on 90210.

[billhoward]

The possibility of extending eligibility also raises an interesting question. According to BRPH, we have five players coming in next fall. If any of this year's seniors or juniors (I'm looking at you, Morgan Barron) decide to stay around to finish unfinished business, would Schafer hold up some of the incoming 2020's?

They might not clear US Immigration until 2021.

[upprdeck]

we gonna mess with the whole system because a few schools didnt get to play for championship? do the 7-8th best teams from the 70s get an extra too?

spring sports are far different than winter sports.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Here's a thought about players jumping early to the pros:  One of the drivers was to get a pro contract for the remaining part of the current season.  With the NHL and AHL on "hiatus" and not even knowing of there will be a remaining season, how likely will they be to sign players right now?

So I expect we're probably not going to hear a lot about player signings for a while.