Polls 2019-20

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Swampy

Quote from: JasonN95NoDak is leading late so it looks like it'll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn't built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: JasonN95NoDak is leading late so it looks like it'll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn't built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

[Pedantic alert]

DC

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Swampy

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: JasonN95NoDak is leading late so it looks like it'll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn't built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

[Pedantic alert]

DC

[/pedantic alert]


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Wikipedia says, "Dartmouth College is a private Ivy League research university ...," (emphasis added)

Wikipedia also says, "In the United States, "college" may refer to a constituent part of a university or to a degree-awarding tertiary educational institution, but generally "college" and "university" are used interchangeably."

Finally,
Quote from: The Atlanticsays,
"Technically, colleges are institutions that focus on undergraduate education and tend to be small (no more than a few thousand students); universities are larger and grant graduate degrees.

Now since

Dartmouth has 6,571 students, while Bryant University has only 3,751, accordingly the Law of (Not So) Large Institutions applies:

Quote from: https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/11/is-a-college-different-from-a-university/602215/Plenty of schools with college in their name, for example, have graduate programs—such as Dartmouth and William & Mary. And some universities are relatively small—such as Clark and, well, Lasell [or Bryant].


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ugarte

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: JasonN95NoDak is leading late so it looks like it'll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn't built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

[Pedantic alert]

DC

[/pedantic alert]


[argumentative alert]

Wikipedia says, "Dartmouth College is a private Ivy League research university ...," (emphasis added)

Wikipedia also says, "In the United States, "college" may refer to a constituent part of a university or to a degree-awarding tertiary educational institution, but generally "college" and "university" are used interchangeably."

Finally,
Quote from: The Atlanticsays,
"Technically, colleges are institutions that focus on undergraduate education and tend to be small (no more than a few thousand students); universities are larger and grant graduate degrees.

Now since

Dartmouth has 6,571 students, while Bryant University has only 3,751, accordingly the Law of (Not So) Large Institutions applies:

Quote from: https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/11/is-a-college-different-from-a-university/602215/Plenty of schools with college in their name, for example, have graduate programs—such as Dartmouth and William & Mary. And some universities are relatively small—such as Clark and, well, Lasell [or Bryant].


[/argumentative alert]
that certainly is many words

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: JasonN95NoDak is leading late so it looks like it'll have the top PWR spot and Cornell will be in 2nd. Fun tidbit: At the moment Cornell has the highest quality win bonus (QWB) of *any* team. I think that backs ups the view that Cornell hasn't built its record by playing cupcakes (not that any of us thought that).

Both USCHO & CHN have those NoDak characters #1 and us #2 in the pairwise after last night. It's the adjusted RPI -- .6151 (ND) and .6087 (CU) -- that's responsible. It didn't help that some of our better wins were against teams that lost (MSU, OSU x 2) or tied (DU, BU, CLK, NMU) over the weekend.

[Pedantic alert]

DC

[/pedantic alert]


[argumentative alert]

Wikipedia says, "Dartmouth College is a private Ivy League research university ...," (emphasis added)

Wikipedia also says, "In the United States, "college" may refer to a constituent part of a university or to a degree-awarding tertiary educational institution, but generally "college" and "university" are used interchangeably."

Finally,
Quote from: The Atlanticsays,
"Technically, colleges are institutions that focus on undergraduate education and tend to be small (no more than a few thousand students); universities are larger and grant graduate degrees.

Now since

Dartmouth has 6,571 students, while Bryant University has only 3,751, accordingly the Law of (Not So) Large Institutions applies:

Quote from: https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/11/is-a-college-different-from-a-university/602215/Plenty of schools with college in their name, for example, have graduate programs—such as Dartmouth and William & Mary. And some universities are relatively small—such as Clark and, well, Lasell [or Bryant].


[/argumentative alert]

Wow.

Dartmouth refers to itself as "Dartmouth College."  They are the ultimate arbiter.

Jim Hyla

Rankings roundup: How the top 20 teams fared, Jan. 24-26
[b][u]No. 1 Cornell (14-1-4)[/u][/b]
01/24/2020 – No. 20 Dartmouth 2 at [u][b]No. 1 Cornell 3[/b][/u]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 16 Harvard 1 at No. 1 Cornell 1 (OT)[/u][/b]

No. 2 North Dakota (19-3-3)
01/24/2020 – No. 2 North Dakota 4 at [b][u]No. 11 Minnesota Duluth 7[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 2 North Dakota 3[/u][/b] at No. 11 Minnesota Duluth 2

No. 3 Minnesota State (23-4-1)
01/24/2020 – RV Bemidji State 2 at [b][u]No. 3 Minnesota State 3[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]RV Bemidji State 4[/u][/b] at No. 3 Minnesota State 2

No. 4 Boston College (15-7-0)
01/24/2020 – [b][u]Maine 4[/u][/b] at No. 4 Boston College 3 (OT)
01/25/2020 – [b][u]Maine 3[/u][/b] at No. 4 Boston College 2 (OT)

No. 5 Denver (17-4-5)
01/24/2020 – [b][u]No. 5 Denver 3[/u][/b] at Miami 2
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 5 Denver 5[/u][/b] at Miami 2

[b][u]No. 6 Ohio State (15-8-3)[/u][/b]
01/24/2020 – No. 6 Ohio State 3 at [b][u]Minnesota 6[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – No. 6 Ohio State 1 at [b][u]Minnesota 4[/u][/b]

No. 7 Massachusetts (16-8-2)
01/24/2020 – [b][u]RV New Hampshire 1[/u][/b] at No. 7 Massachusetts 0
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 7 Massachusetts 1 at RV New Hampshire 1 (OT)[/u][/b]

[b][u]No. 8 Clarkson (17-6-2)[/u][/b]
01/24/2020 – No. 13 Arizona State 1 at [b][u]No. 8 Clarkson 2 (OT)[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 13 Arizona State 3[/u][/b] at No. 8 Clarkson 2 (OT)

No. 9 Penn State (17-8-1)
01/24/2020 – No. 9 Penn State 2 at [b][u]No. 19 Michigan State 4[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 9 Penn State 2[/u][/b] at No. 19 Michigan State 1 (OT)

[b][u]No. 10 Providence (14-6-5)[/u][/b]
Did not play.

No. 11 Minnesota Duluth (13-9-2)
01/24/2020 – No. 2 North Dakota 4 at [b][u]No. 11 Minnesota Duluth 7[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 2 North Dakota 3[/u][/b] at No. 11 Minnesota Duluth 2

No. 12 UMass Lowell (13-7-5)
01/24/2020 – No. 12 UMass Lowell 0 at [b][u]Boston University 5[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]Boston University 2 at No. 12 UMass Lowell 2 (OT)[/u][/b]

No. 13 Arizona State (16-9-3)
01/24/2020 – No. 13 Arizona State 1 at [b][u]No. 8 Clarkson 2 (OT)[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 13 Arizona State 3[/u][/b] at No. 8 Clarkson 2 (OT)

No. 14 Northeastern (13-7-2)
Did not play.

[b][u]No. 15 Northern Michigan (14-8-4)[/u][/b]
01/24/2020 – [b][u]No. 15 Northern Michigan 4 at Alaska 4 (OT)[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 15 Northern Michigan 4[/u][/b] at Alaska 2

[b][u]No. 16 Harvard (9-6-4)[/u][/b]
01/24/2020 – [b][u]No. 16 Harvard 3 at Colgate 3 (OT)[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 16 Harvard 1 at No. 1 Cornell 1 (OT)[/u][/b]

[b][u]No. 17 Quinnipiac (14-9-1)[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 17 Quinnipiac 3[/u][/b] vs Connecticut 2 (Connecticut Ice Festival, Bridgeport, Conn.)
01/26/2020 – No. 17 Quinnipiac 1 vs [b][u]RV Sacred Heart 4[/u][/b] (Connecticut Ice Festival championship, Bridgeport, Conn.)

No. 18 Bowling Green (13-11-2)
Did not play.

[b][u]No. 19 Michigan State (13-12-1)[/u][/b]
01/24/2020 – No. 9 Penn State 2 at [b][u]No. 19 Michigan State 4[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 9 Penn State 2[/u][/b] at No. 19 Michigan State 1 (OT)

[b][u]No. 20 Dartmouth (10-6-4)[/u][/b]
01/24/2020 – No. 20 Dartmouth 2 at [b][u]No. 1 Cornell 3[/u][/b]
01/25/2020 – [b][u]No. 20 Dartmouth 3 at Colgate 3 (OT)[/u][/b]

RV = Received Votes
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Really appreciate you doing these, Jim.  Thanks.

Summary:

 1. Cornell      1-0-1
 2. North Dakota 1-1
 3. Mankato      1-1
 4. BC           0-2
 5. Denver       2-0
 7. UMass        0-1-1
 8. Clarkson     1-1
 9. Penn State   1-1
10. Providence   0-0


The top 10 going just 7-7-2 with no games against each other.  Our 3-point weekend against two teams in the top-20 looks pretty good.

After Q we play 8 unranked teams (here listed with PWR):

53 Prn
39 Cgt
39 Cgt
55 Uni
43 RPI
38 Yal
56 Brn
59 SLU

before finishing vs Clarkson.

Time to get fat.

ajh258

Wow. 40 top place votes from USCHO poll at the end of February. Knock on wood...

KenP

Cornell continues at the #1 spot.  More clear lead this week with 40 first place votes.

Trotsky

Quote from: ajh258Wow. 40 top place votes from USCHO poll at the end of February.

I knew the drugs would catch up with me eventually.  Time sense goes first.  :-/

Trotsky


 1. Cornell
 6. Clarkson
16. Harvard
18. Quinnipiac
23. Dartmouth


ajh258

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ajh258Wow. 40 top place votes from USCHO poll at the end of February.

I knew the drugs would catch up with me eventually.  Time sense goes first.  :-/

Sorry. Been running on little sleep past 48 hours.

But this is giving me a boost.

Jim Hyla


[b]USCHO Division I Men's Poll - January 27, 2020[/b]
Rnk Team     (First) Record Points Last Poll

[b][u]1 Cornell        (40) 14-1-4 986 1[/u][/b]
2 North Dakota (8) 19-3-3 946 2
3 Minnesota State (2) 23-4-1 892 3
4 Denver        17-4-5 874 5
5 Boston College 15-7-0 753 4
[b][u]6 Clarkson 17-6-2 716 8[/u][/b]
7 Massachusetts 16-8-2 671 7
8 Penn State 17-8-1 623 9
9 Providence 14-6-5 604 10
10 Minnesota Duluth 13-9-2 568 11
11 Ohio State 15-8-3 546 6
12 Arizona State 16-9-3 441 13
13 Northeastern 13-7-2 375 14
14 UMass Lowell 13-7-5 352 12
15 Northern Michigan 14-8-4 288 15
[b][u]16 Harvard         9-6-4 161 16[/u][/b]
17 Michigan State 13-12-1 131 19
[b][u]18 Quinnipiac 14-9-1 127 17[/u][/b]
19 Bemidji State 14-8-4 91 NR
20 Sacred Heart 16-8-2 83 NR

Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 81, Bowling Green 77,
[b][u]Dartmouth 28[/u][/b], Western Michigan 23, Maine 21, Notre Dame 14,
Minnesota 6, Michigan 6, Army 5, Boston University 5,
Omaha 4, Michigan Tech 1, RIT 1

[b]USCHO Division I Women's Poll - January 27, 2020[/b]
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Wisconsin (13) 23-2-1 148 1
2 Minnesota (1) 20-4-3 124 2
3 Northeastern 21-3-1 121 3
[b][u]4 Cornell        (1) 18-1-2 116 4[/u][/b]
5 Ohio State 16-6-4 90 5
[b][u]6 Princeton 14-4-1 72 6
7 Clarkson 18-4-4 62 7[/u][/b]
8 Boston University 17-5-3 44 7
9 Minnesota Duluth 12-8-4 27 9
[b][u]10 Harvard        11-8-1 11 10[/u][/b]

Others receiving votes: [b][u]Quinnipiac 3[/u][/b], Robert Morris 3,
Bemidji State 2, Providence 2

I'll add the rest this evening.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: ajh258But this is giving me a boost.
Given the news in the real world the past few years. Cornell hockey is what's kept me out of the booby hatch.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ajh258But this is giving me a boost.
Given the news in the real world the past few years. Cornell hockey is what's kept me out of the booby hatch.

You and me both, friend.