Polls 2019-20

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

what are the chances that SUCKS can beat #12 Northeastern tonight in the first round of the Beanpot?
Maybe the Huskies will be quarantined for possible corona virus exposure or something?

Anything is possible.  

Can't see them winning it all, though.  BC is good and BU is getting their act together.  Sucks will find a way to lose.

[Trotsky]

Harvard is traditionally a Consolation Game super power.

[Jim Hyla]

Here it is.

For some reason it still won't let me post the men's Krach.

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[b]USCHO Division I Men's Poll - February 3, 2020[/b]
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 North Dakota (49) 21-3-3 998 2
[b][u]2 Cornell        15-2-4 913 1[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State (1) 24-4-2 903 3
4 Boston College 16-7-0 839 5
[b][u]5 Clarkson 19-6-2 768 6[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota Duluth 15-9-2 749 10
7 Denver         17-6-5 739 4
8 Massachusetts 16-9-2 597 7
9 Penn State 17-9-2 535 8
10 Providence 14-7-5 497 9
11 Arizona State 18-9-3 489 12
12 Northeastern 14-7-2 482 13
13 Ohio State 16-9-3 471 11
14 UMass Lowell 13-7-5 307 14
15 Northern Michigan 16-8-4 290 15
[b][u]16 Quinnipiac 16-9-1 257 18
17 Harvard        10-6-4 192 16[/u][/b]
18 Bemidji State 16-8-4 131 19
19 Michigan State 13-12-1 107 17
20 Sacred Heart 18-8-2 73 20
Others receiving votes: Maine 52, Bowling Green 27, Minnesota 22,
Notre Dame 20, Western Michigan 19, Boston University 5,
New Hampshire 4, [b][u]Dartmouth 4[/u][/b], Michigan Tech 4, Omaha 2, AIC 2, Michigan 2

[b]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 3, 2020[/b]
Team                     Points  (First) Last Poll Record Weeks in Poll

1 University of North Dakota 507 (33) 2 21-3-3 14
[b][u]2 Cornell University        457 1 15-2-4 18[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota State University 451 (1) 3 24-4-2 18
4 Boston College                395 5 16-7-0 16
5 University of Denver        363 4 17-6-5 18
[b][u]6 Clarkson University        323 7 19-6-2 18[/u][/b]
7 University of Minnesota Duluth 321 10 15-9-2 18
8 University of Massachusetts 255 6 16-9-2 18
9 Arizona State University 189 12 18-9-3 6
10 Providence College        166 8 14-7-5 15
10 Penn State University        166 9 17-9-2 18
12 Northeastern University 156 13 14-7-2 18
13 Ohio State University        144 11 16-9-3 18
14 University Massachusetts Lowell  58 14 13-7-5 12
[b][u]15 Quinnipiac University         47 NR 16-9-1 4[/u][/b]

Others receiving votes: Northern Michigan University 22, Michigan State University 19,
[b][u]Harvard University 14[/u][/b], Bowling Green State University 10, University of Maine 8,
Western Michigan University 4, Sacred Heart University 2, Bemidji State University 1.

[b]NCAA Tournament Pairwise Comparison Ratings[/b]

Rk Team       PCWs RPI Rk QWB-† W-L-T Win % Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 North Dakota 59 .6127 1 .0069 21-3-3 .8333 .8425
2 Minnesota State 58 .5982 2 .0077 24-4-2 .8333 .8289
[b][u]3 Cornell 57 .5975 3 .0058 15-2-4 .8095 .8221[/u][/b]
4 Denver        55 .5730 4 .0059 17-6-5 .6964 .6906
5 Boston College 55 .5717 5 .0038 16-7-0 .6957 .7000
6 Minnesota-Duluth55 .5628 6 .0077 15-9-2 .6154 .6154
[b][u]7 Clarkson 53 .5532 7 .0015 19-6-2 .7407 .7313[/u][/b]
8 Arizona State 52 .5481 8 .0041 18-9-3 .6500 .6562
9 Massachusetts 51 .5474 9 .0051 16-9-2 .6296 .6343
[b][u]10 Ohio State 50 .5469 10 .0016 16-9-3 .6250 .6346[/u][/b]
11 Penn State 49 .5465 11 .0014 17-9-2 .6429 .6232
12 Northeastern 48 .5456 12 .0031 14-7-2 .6522 .6574
[b][u]13 Providence 47 .5451 13 .0058 14-7-5 .6346 .6241
14 Quinnipiac 46 .5422 14 .0031 16-9-1 .6346 .6446[/u][/b]
15 Maine        45 .5393 15 .0052 14-9-4 .5926 .6230
[b][u]16 Northrn Michigan43 .5392 16 .0023 16-8-4 .6429 .6357[/u][/b]
17 Mass.-Lowell 43 .5377 17 .0051 13-7-5 .6200 .6063
18 Bemidji State 41 .5371 18 .0021 16-8-4 .6429 .6489
[b][u]19 Harvard 41 .5330 19 .0041 10-6-4 .6000 .6029[/u][/b]
20 Minnesota 41 .5326 20 .0031 12-10-4 .5385 .5231
[b][u]21 Michigan State 39 .5294 21 .0041 13-12-1 .5192 .5118[/u][/b]



[b]USCHO Division I Women's Poll - February 3, 2020[/b]

Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Wisconsin (14) 25-2-1 149 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        (1) 19-1-3 124 4[/u][/b]
3 Northeastern 23-3-1 121 3
4 Minnesota 21-5-3 116 2
5 Ohio State 17-6-5 88 5
[b][u]6 Princeton 17-4-1 77 6
7 Clarkson 18-4-6 55 7[/u][/b]
8 Boston University 18-6-3 45 8
9 Minnesota Duluth 13-9-4 34 9
[b][u]10 Harvard        12-8-1 10 10[/u][/b]

Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 2, [b][u]Quinnipiac 2[/u][/b], Bemidji State 1, Providence 1

[b]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/b]

Rnk Team       PWR W-L-T W% W% Rnk RPI RPI Rnk

1 Wisconsin 40 25-2-1 0.9107 1 0.6948* 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        39 19-1-3 0.8913 2 0.6676* 2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota 38 21-5-3 0.7759 5 0.6439* 3
4 Northeastern 37 23-3-1 0.8704 3 0.6403* 4
[b][u]5 Ohio State 36 17-6-5 0.6964 8 0.6213 5
6 Princeton 35 17-4-1 0.7955 4 0.6200* 6
7 Clarkson 34 18-4-6 0.7500 6 0.5872* 7[/u][/b]
8 Boston Univer 33 18-6-3 0.7222 7 0.5725* 8
9 Minnesota Duluth32 13-9-4 0.5769 15 0.5702 9
[b][u]10 Harvard        31 12-8-1 0.5952 12 0.5516* 10
11 Quinnipiac 30 15-10-3 0.5893 13 0.5440* 11
12 Colgate        29 13-11-6 0.5333 20 0.5430* 12[/u][/b]
13 Boston College 28 14-10-3 0.5741 16 0.5391 13
14 Bemidji State 27 14-13-3 0.5167 23 0.5358* 14
[b][u]15 Robert Morris 26 15-9-2 0.6154 9 0.5352* 15[/u][/b]

[b]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/b]

Rank Team      Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T  Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS

1 Wisconsin 6892. .9520 1 25-2-1 0.9107 10.200 3 675.7
[b][u]2 Cornell        3379. .9120 2 19-1-3 0.8913 8.200 6 412.0[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota 2931. .9022 5 21-5-3 0.7759 3.462 2 846.6
[u][b]4 Ohio State 1963. .8710 8 17-6-5 0.6964 2.294 1 855.6
5 Princeton 1354. .8373 4 17-4-1 0.7955 3.889 7 348.3[/b][/u]
6 Northeastern 1220. .8269 3 23-3-1 0.8704 6.714 14 181.7
7 Minnesota Duluth793.1 .7805 15 13-9-4 0.5769 1.364 4 581.6
[b][u]8 Clarkson 684.5 .7632 6 18-4-6 0.7500 3.000 12 228.2[/u][/b]
9 Bemidji State 448.5 .7101 23 14-13-3 0.5167 1.069 5 419.6
10 Boston Univer 373.0 .6855 7 18-6-3 0.7222 2.600 17 143.5
[b][u]11 Harvard        370.3 .6845 12 12-8-1 0.5952 1.471 11 251.8
12 Colgate        350.5 .6770 20 13-11-6 0.5333 1.143 8 306.6
13 Quinnipiac 285.8 .6487 13 15-10-3 0.5893 1.435 13 199.2
14 Robert Morris 261.2 .6361 9 15-9-2 0.6154 1.600 16 163.2[/u][/b]


[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Harvard is traditionally a Consolation Game super power.

We'll see next week...cause that's where they'll be playing ::dribble::

[arugula]

BU vs. BC was a spectacular game at the Beanpot.  BU looked significantly better than at MSG

[scoop85]

BU vs. BC was a spectacular game at the Beanpot.  BU looked significantly better than at MSG

I only saw the 3rd period and OTs, but from what I saw I agree with your assessment. For the young and talented teams like BU, it only makes sense that they will improve (often significantly) as the season progresses.

[Al DeFlorio]

BU vs. BC was a spectacular game at the Beanpot.  BU looked significantly better than at MSG

I only saw the 3rd period and OTs, but from what I saw I agree with your assessment. For the young and talented teams like BU, it only makes sense that they will improve (often significantly) as the season progresses.

Globe article said new players joined BU team second semester.

[jkahn]

BU vs. BC was a spectacular game at the Beanpot.  BU looked significantly better than at MSG

I only saw the 3rd period and OTs, but from what I saw I agree with your assessment. For the young and talented teams like BU, it only makes sense that they will improve (often significantly) as the season progresses.

Globe article said new players joined BU team second semester.

It was mentioned on the broadcast that their goalie, Ashton Abel, spent 2 1/2 years, including the first half of this season, in the AJHL.

[ice]

Ashton Abel, 20 years old

2019-20   Okotoks Oilers, AJHL    
26 games,    2.13 GAA,   0.912 Save%         

2019-20   Boston University, H-East
6 games,    2.05 GAA,    0.927 Save%   


Sam Tucker (Moved from Yale to BU after graduation) played goalie in the MSG game.  
19 games,   2.79 GAA,    0.908 Save%

[Jim Hyla]

BU vs. BC was a spectacular game at the Beanpot.  BU looked significantly better than at MSG

I only saw the 3rd period and OTs, but from what I saw I agree with your assessment. For the young and talented teams like BU, it only makes sense that they will improve (often significantly) as the season progresses.

Globe article said new players joined BU team second semester.

CHN article mentions:

Skoog [got game winner] arrival midseason has provided the Terriers with some much-needed scoring depth. Skoog initially planned to enroll next fall, but injury concerns and offensive woes compelled O'Connell and his staff to bring the Swedish winger in early. He spent the first half of the season with Maryland of the NAHL, scoring 15 goals and assisting on 18 others in 24 games.

Skoog wasn't the only second-semester acquisition to shine for BU on Monday. Goaltender Ashton Abel, who played 26 games for the AJHL's Okotoks Oilers to start the 2019-20 season, recovered from a shaky start to make 27 saves.

[ugarte]

Sam Tucker (Moved from Yale to BU after graduation) played goalie in the MSG game.  
19 games,   2.79 GAA,    0.908 Save%

a graduate transfer losing his job to a spring roster addition is brutal

[ice]

Attached is a graph of KRACH by team as of 2/8/20.  Cornell is negatively impacted by its relatively low SOS.

[ice]

KRACH with superimposition of SOS.

[Trotsky]

That's gorgeous, ice.  Thanks!  And welcome to eLynah.

[upprdeck]

is SOS used on a sliding scale or purely by the numbers in these rating systems?

In basketball its way over valued because there are so many teams.  In hockey the deviance from best to worst is far less in a game where one play can mean the game that you completely dominated way more than any other sport.

If the best 2 teams play the same top 20 games and one team plays the bottom 2 teams 10 times and the other plays the middle 2 teams 10 times the SOS will much better wouldn't it?   But in reality they both played games they will probably win  90% of the times or more?

In  basketball its even worse because if you play the teams 75-100  vs the teams 275-300 it creates a huge imbalance in the SOS yet in both cases the top teams would win all of these games 99.9% of the time..