Polls 2019-20

BearLover · January 14, 2020, 10:55:25 AM

Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLoverHuman polls serve no meaningful purpose, but FWIW I think it's crazy to rank Cornell above NoDak.

If it serves no meaningful purpose to you, you should at least realize that many of us enjoy seeing the team ranked first. I'm not sure why you want to bring rain on the parade. You are welcome to pick up a trumpet or a sousaphone and join our pep band.

Just because I don't believe Cornell is the best team in the country doesn't mean I don't enjoy seeing them ranked as such.

I simply think it's nuts to think Cornell would beat NoDak more than 50 games out of 100.

BearLover · January 14, 2020, 10:56:28 AM

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLoverHuman polls serve no meaningful purpose, but FWIW I think it's crazy to rank Cornell above NoDak.
Why am I not surprised?

Dunno. Everything I've said about the team this year has been highly positive, so maybe you should be surprised.

cth95 · January 14, 2020, 10:58:12 AM

I know we have a women's thread. I just noticed there hasn't been anything on there in quite some time and the team is doing amazing. I also thought the similarity of the 12-1-2 and 14-1-2 records is cool.

ice · January 14, 2020, 11:55:46 AM

Against the USCHO top 20:

Cornell: 6-0-1
N. Dak: 2-1-2

BearLover · January 14, 2020, 12:16:59 PM

Quote from: iceAgainst the USCHO top 20:

Cornell: 6-0-1
N. Dak: 2-1-2

NoDak has played the fourth-hardest schedule, Cornell the 22nd-hardest. Despite this, their goal differentials are approximately equal: NoDak has scored 70% of the goals in its games, Cornell has scored 71%. NoDak has the highest "CF Close" (shot attempts when game is within a goal) in the NCAAs, at 62%, despite the tougher competition. Cornell's is 11th, at 56%. NoDak also has the highest Overall CF, and is #1 in Fenwick (which counts unblocked shots only) in both Close and Overall. Moreover, NoDak has some of the most talented players in the country. Schafer has done a remarkable job with the players he has, but NoDak is the better team.

Scersk '97 · January 14, 2020, 12:39:23 PM

Quote from: imafrshmn
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: imafrshmnAbout time people start mentioning, and maybe even discussing, women's hockey on here.

Let me Google that for you...
You're a funny guy. I've posted in that thread and you have not. Step up your game.

OK, let me not be funny.

If you want to mention or discuss women's hockey, go ahead! No one is stopping you. Start a thread; post a comment here or elsewhere. Step up your game.

Or you could just randomly moan about others discussing what they want to discuss...

Scersk '97 · January 14, 2020, 12:41:52 PM

Quote from: cth95I know we have a women's thread. I just noticed there hasn't been anything on there in quite some time and the team is doing amazing. I also thought the similarity of the 12-1-2 and 14-1-2 records is cool.

Oh, no problem whatsoever! This thread seems a perfectly appropriate place to discuss the women's polls as well.

(I don't normally read in threaded view.)

Jeff Hopkins '82 · January 14, 2020, 04:12:04 PM

Here's a comment on the women: they got badly dinged in the USCHO poll for the tie this past weekend. Western bias!

JasonN95 · January 14, 2020, 07:59:30 PM

Me looking over the latest polls and PWR: "Pretty much in lock step but interesting how Clarkson has been able to poll a few spots higher than its PWR for a while now I wonder- holy smokes, Bowling Green!"

That's a big difference not usually seen if my recollection can be trusted.

The Rancor · January 14, 2020, 08:09:26 PM

I think it is fin to be somehow under the radar and the national #1. I do find it amusing that USCHO continues to ignore the existence of that fact.
TMQB: Cornell... played a game this week? Now, on to any other team!

ice · January 15, 2020, 01:41:25 AM

12-1-2 1.46 0.939 Matthew Galajda Cornell
17-2-2 1.73 0.916 Adam Scheel North Dakota

ice · January 19, 2020, 12:24:33 AM

Top 16 vs. Top 16 (KRACH)

6-1-1 Minnesota State
1-1-2 North Dakota
5-0-2 Cornell
4-3-3 Denver
2-4-0 Boston College
3-2-0 Ohio State
2-2-0 Penn State
0-2-0 Clarkson
1-3-0 Massachusetts
1-2-1 Minn-Duluth
2-1-1 Providence
2-3-1 Arizona State
3-7-0 Michigan State
2-3-1 Northern Michigan
4-3-0 Mass-Lowell
2-3-0 Northeastern

ice · January 19, 2020, 12:43:30 AM

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: iceAgainst the USCHO top 20:

Cornell: 6-0-1
N. Dak: 2-1-2
NoDak has played the fourth-hardest schedule, Cornell the 22nd-hardest. Despite this, their goal differentials are approximately equal: NoDak has scored 70% of the goals in its games, Cornell has scored 71%. NoDak has the highest "CF Close" (shot attempts when game is within a goal) in the NCAAs, at 62%, despite the tougher competition. Cornell's is 11th, at 56%. NoDak also has the highest Overall CF, and is #1 in Fenwick (which counts unblocked shots only) in both Close and Overall. Moreover, NoDak has some of the most talented players in the country. Schafer has done a remarkable job with the players he has, but NoDak is the better team.

https://www.inforum.com/sports/hockey/4871316-UND-ties-Miami-in-wild-back-and-forth-game-in-Oxford

"sophomore starter Adam Scheel was lifted for Peter Thome after 20 minutes. Scheel, who was pulled one time all of last season, has been yanked twice in the last eight days."

He didn't play the second game against Miami. ND won 5-3.

Al DeFlorio · January 19, 2020, 02:06:47 AM

Only Denver, Mankato, and Mich State have played more top 16 teams than Cornell. Only Clarkson has played fewer than NoDak.

CU2007 · January 19, 2020, 02:40:41 AM

Quote from: iceTop 16 vs. Top 16 (KRACH)

6-1-1 Minnesota State
1-1-2 North Dakota
5-0-2 Cornell
4-3-3 Denver
2-4-0 Boston College
3-2-0 Ohio State
2-2-0 Penn State
0-2-0 Clarkson
1-3-0 Massachusetts
1-2-1 Minn-Duluth
2-1-1 Providence
2-3-1 Arizona State
3-7-0 Michigan State
2-3-1 Northern Michigan
4-3-0 Mass-Lowell
2-3-0 Northeastern

This more than anything tells you that this team has a real chance to do it.