2019-03-01: Cornell 4 St. Lawrence 2

Started by Trotsky, February 23, 2019, 11:40:18 PM

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ugarte

Quote from: Jim HylaAnd to which "things that are flat-out incorrect" are you referring?
maybe me saying i thought he returned to the ice? but if i'm wrong (and i don't doubt that i was) that doesn't help the case for "he's fine."

BearLover

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLoverMoreover, here is a photo of him (to the immediate right of the guys in suits) with his arm around the player to his left: https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/1099501900838375424?s=19

Granted, the ELynhah Twitter photo of the alma mater shows him with that arm at his side. He could be injured, for all I know. But it's impossible to draw any conclusions yet, and several people in this thread have stated things that are flat-out incorrect.

Look at your evidence. Look at the difference between how he has his right arm versus his left. The right is on Galajda's shoulder and his left is on the "suit's" waist.

That's not natural. When you form a ring like that you are generally symmetric.

Sure it might mean nothing, but putting all the info together, there is some basis for saying he's hurt.

And to which "things that are flat-out incorrect" are you referring?
His right arm is around Galajda's waist...

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLoverMoreover, here is a photo of him (to the immediate right of the guys in suits) with his arm around the player to his left: https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/1099501900838375424?s=19

Granted, the ELynhah Twitter photo of the alma mater shows him with that arm at his side. He could be injured, for all I know. But it's impossible to draw any conclusions yet, and several people in this thread have stated things that are flat-out incorrect.

Look at your evidence. Look at the difference between how he has his right arm versus his left. The right is on Galajda's shoulder and his left is on the "suit's" waist.

That's not natural. When you form a ring like that you are generally symmetric.

Sure it might mean nothing, but putting all the info together, there is some basis for saying he's hurt.

And to which "things that are flat-out incorrect" are you referring?
His right arm is around Galajda's waist...

Look, if hockey culture didn't want us to baselessly speculate, they'd tell us about injuries.

But they don't, so it is our duty to sit here and scrutinize grainy images for every possible speck of meaning.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLoverMoreover, here is a photo of him (to the immediate right of the guys in suits) with his arm around the player to his left: https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/1099501900838375424?s=19

Granted, the ELynhah Twitter photo of the alma mater shows him with that arm at his side. He could be injured, for all I know. But it's impossible to draw any conclusions yet, and several people in this thread have stated things that are flat-out incorrect.

Look at your evidence. Look at the difference between how he has his right arm versus his left. The right is on Galajda's shoulder and his left is on the "suit's" waist.

That's not natural. When you form a ring like that you are generally symmetric.

Sure it might mean nothing, but putting all the info together, there is some basis for saying he's hurt.

And to which "things that are flat-out incorrect" are you referring?
His right arm is around Galajda's waist...

So I blew it up and you're right, but there are still multiple other data points that say he injured his left arm again.

Why else did he skate off holding his left arm?
Why did he immediately go down the tunnel, instead of the bench?
Why did coach initially send Regush to the penalty box?
Why didn't he return to the ice?

Too much for me to ignore. Do I know what really happened? Of course not, but there's reasonable reason to feel he injured his left arm.

I'm still waiting for the "things that are flat-out incorrect".
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
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slh10

As I sit next to our penalty box I guess I had one of the best vantage points. He did go up the tunnel and after all the discussion about the penalty Schafer basically asked him if he could serve the penalty. He seemed to be in a lot of pain during his time in the box. I never saw him return to the ice. He spent the last few minutes at the end of the bench behind the goalies. Hopefully just a stinger and he will be back for the playoffs or better yet this coming weekend. I for one was very surprised to see him in the lineup this past weekend.

Beeeej

Pairwise-wise, btw, we're rooting for UConn over Providence tonight. No matter who wins in Denver @ Colorado College, a UConn win pushes us up to 12th.

(EDIT to add: Or more accurately, drops Providence down to 13th.)
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

BearLover

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLoverMoreover, here is a photo of him (to the immediate right of the guys in suits) with his arm around the player to his left: https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/1099501900838375424?s=19

Granted, the ELynhah Twitter photo of the alma mater shows him with that arm at his side. He could be injured, for all I know. But it's impossible to draw any conclusions yet, and several people in this thread have stated things that are flat-out incorrect.

Look at your evidence. Look at the difference between how he has his right arm versus his left. The right is on Galajda's shoulder and his left is on the "suit's" waist.

That's not natural. When you form a ring like that you are generally symmetric.

Sure it might mean nothing, but putting all the info together, there is some basis for saying he's hurt.

And to which "things that are flat-out incorrect" are you referring?
His right arm is around Galajda's waist...

So I blew it up and you're right, but there are still multiple other data points that say he injured his left arm again.

Why else did he skate off holding his left arm?
Why did he immediately go down the tunnel, instead of the bench?
Why did coach initially send Regush to the penalty box?
Why didn't he return to the ice?

Too much for me to ignore. Do I know what really happened? Of course not, but there's reasonable reason to feel he injured his left arm.

I'm still waiting for the "things that are flat-out incorrect".
Things that were wrong: that Donaldson never put up his left arm in the postgame, that Donaldson never returned (if he was terribly hurt, would he have served the penalty?), and some of the descriptions of the contact/how Donaldson fell to the ice. If we're going to declare one of our best players out for the season or criticize the coaching staff for playing him in the first place, we should at least have the facts in front of us. Also, this team is screwed if we lose Donaldson.

On the PWR front, ASU is going to eat up an at-large slot with no conference tournament for them to win. So realistically we're probably looking at needing to finish in the top 11 or 12.

ugarte

Quote from: BearLoverOn the PWR front, ASU is going to eat up an at-large slot with no conference tournament for them to win. So realistically we're probably looking at needing to finish in the top 11 or 12.
Agreed - Ohio State wining the Big matters a lot. Any conference dark horse breaking through while we're on the edge is why I'm feeling down about the postseason odds.

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLoverMoreover, here is a photo of him (to the immediate right of the guys in suits) with his arm around the player to his left: https://twitter.com/DailySunSports/status/1099501900838375424?s=19

Granted, the ELynhah Twitter photo of the alma mater shows him with that arm at his side. He could be injured, for all I know. But it's impossible to draw any conclusions yet, and several people in this thread have stated things that are flat-out incorrect.

Look at your evidence. Look at the difference between how he has his right arm versus his left. The right is on Galajda's shoulder and his left is on the "suit's" waist.

That's not natural. When you form a ring like that you are generally symmetric.

Sure it might mean nothing, but putting all the info together, there is some basis for saying he's hurt.

And to which "things that are flat-out incorrect" are you referring?
His right arm is around Galajda's waist...

So I blew it up and you're right, but there are still multiple other data points that say he injured his left arm again.

Why else did he skate off holding his left arm?
Why did he immediately go down the tunnel, instead of the bench?
Why did coach initially send Regush to the penalty box?
Why didn't he return to the ice?

Too much for me to ignore. Do I know what really happened? Of course not, but there's reasonable reason to feel he injured his left arm.

I'm still waiting for the "things that are flat-out incorrect".
Things that were wrong: that Donaldson never put up his left arm in the postgame, that Donaldson never returned (if he was terribly hurt, would he have served the penalty?), and some of the descriptions of the contact/how Donaldson fell to the ice. If we're going to declare one of our best players out for the season or criticize the coaching staff for playing him in the first place, we should at least have the facts in front of us. Also, this team is screwed if we lose Donaldson.

On the PWR front, ASU is going to eat up an at-large slot with no conference tournament for them to win. So realistically we're probably looking at needing to finish in the top 11 or 12.

I don't think ASU impacts where we need to finish. We want as few teams as possible outside the top 16 to win their conferences. The only way for ASU to cause a "problem" is for them to finish outside the top 16 and still win a conference tourney.

Right now, Atlantic Hockey is the only conference that has no shot at a conference winner in the top 16. So we're really talking about the top 15 in an ideal world. Could be as bad as the top 10.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLoverOn the PWR front, ASU is going to eat up an at-large slot with no conference tournament for them to win. So realistically we're probably looking at needing to finish in the top 11 or 12.

ASU's independence does not matter.  They are thrown into the mix the same as any non-AQ team.

We start needing to finish 15 (the Atlantic AQ) and that number drops every time a dark horse wins a conference tourney.  We're probably looking at 2 AQ winners who wouldn't have made it otherwise, so the line is 13 plus or minus some variance in other AQ results.  Our schedule does us few favors from here on, so we're probably just above the line right now.  Holding at 12 likely gets us in.  To hold at 12 we probably can't afford to turd out in Canton or Ithaca.  I think it comes down to that: win those 3 games to retain our chance, then each win in Potsdam or the Lake Placid semi slides us another position up to allow for freak occurrences in the other conferences.  A Placid final win makes it all moot.

I'm pretty sure we've blown a shot at an NC$$ 2-seed without running the table.  OTOH if we make it we're probably locked into a 3, so it hardly matters.

ugarte

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverOn the PWR front, ASU is going to eat up an at-large slot with no conference tournament for them to win. So realistically we're probably looking at needing to finish in the top 11 or 12.

ASU's independence does not matter.  They are thrown into the mix the same as any non-AQ team.
I think all he means is that without a conference tournament to blow and ruin their resume, and currently sitting at 8, their profile isn't going to change even if they drop a pair to Minnesota, so they've locked up a spot. But I agree with you that since they are at 8, they don't really factor into the bubble.

BearLover

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLoverOn the PWR front, ASU is going to eat up an at-large slot with no conference tournament for them to win. So realistically we're probably looking at needing to finish in the top 11 or 12.

ASU's independence does not matter.  They are thrown into the mix the same as any non-AQ team.
I think all he means is that without a conference tournament to blow and ruin their resume, and currently sitting at 8, their profile isn't going to change even if they drop a pair to Minnesota, so they've locked up a spot. But I agree with you that since they are at 8, they don't really factor into the bubble.
Actually, I was just being dumb and thinking about it backwards: "There are six auto-bids, so essentially ten at-large sports. Each team ahead of Cornell in the PWR who gets an auto-bid opens up an extra at-large spot for Cornell."

upprdeck

OSU really is sitting in the same spot as us though even at 7 if they lose 2 to MSU and then drop early in the b10 who knows where they fall..

had we beaten MSU we probably would almost be a lock

WMU is at 10 with 4 games left.  if they lose 3 of 4 they would be bubble

clarkson/Cu will really hurt each other

BC can hurt NE
Nh can hurt Lowell

all those teams 7-8 or lower have issues.

w/t or t/w and then sweep and we are probably sitting around 10-12 when we get to placid. w/l or l/w and sweep and we could be dicey

Trotsky

I believe in hardware.  So, the Ivy title is great, and we have a shot at another title this weekend: the ECAC RS.  I am aware that some of you disparage that achievement.  Opinions vary.  To me it's another thing to look back at in 20 years for them to be proud of.

Let's Go Red!

ugarte

Quote from: TrotskyI believe in hardware.  So, the Ivy title is great, and we have a shot at another title this weekend: the ECAC RS.  I am aware that some of you disparage that achievement.  Opinions vary.  To me it's another thing to look back at in 20 years for them to be proud of.

Let's Go Red!
i only disparage it when clarkson wins it