Cornell Football 2019

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ugarte

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Quote from: CASThe CFA has indicated that they negotiated with the university but were unable to reach an agreement.  It's apparent they have zero confidence that the football program will receive the institutional support needed to be competitive.  Perhaps this action by football's greatest supporters will prompt the Cornell administration & board to examine the program & do what's necessary to enable us to compete.
the boosters don't bear the burden of compliance. if they aren't willing to play by the school's rules, they can't play at all. if you think that's unfair, try being a college athlete.

But isn't the University's position that CFA is not complying with NCAA rules?
that's MY point!

CAS

Isn't it the CFA's point that Cornell football needs an intervention.  Continuing to fund the program without a plan by the administration to improve it just perpetuates the problem.  Again, as the CFA states, results matter.  Winning only 25% of Ivy games in the last decade calls for dramatic change.

Ken711

Quote from: CASIsn't it the CFA's point that Cornell football needs an intervention.  Continuing to fund the program without a plan by the administration to improve it just perpetuates the problem.  Again, as the CFA states, results matter.  Winning only 25% of Ivy games in the last decade calls for dramatic change.

An intervention is exactly what happened with Columbia's football program using a football consultant outside their athletic administration after years and years of fielding a losing teams.

Trotsky

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Quote from: CASIsn't it the CFA's point that Cornell football needs an intervention.  Continuing to fund the program without a plan by the administration to improve it just perpetuates the problem.  Again, as the CFA states, results matter.  Winning only 25% of Ivy games in the last decade calls for dramatic change.

An intervention is exactly what happened with Columbia's football program using a football consultant outside their athletic administration after years and years of fielding a losing teams.

Couldn't hurt.  For that matter we could use the same firm.  They seem to have given good advice.

Although if the advice is anything like what Harvard basketball got it's pretty obvious: "spend money and cheat."

billhoward

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Quote from: CASThe CFA has indicated that they negotiated with the university but were unable to reach an agreement.  It's apparent they have zero confidence that the football program will receive the institutional support needed to be competitive.  Perhaps this action by football's greatest supporters will prompt the Cornell administration & board to examine the program & do what's necessary to enable us to compete.
the boosters don't bear the burden of compliance. if they aren't willing to play by the school's rules, they can't play at all. if you think that's unfair, try being a college athlete.
But isn't the University's position that CFA is not complying with NCAA rules?
that's MY point!
Cornell may be killing two, make that three, birds with one stone.
* Cornell bears the burden if a supporting group does something outside the boundaries of what the NCAA allows, so it clamps down.
* Cornell doesn't like other people telling it what to do.
* Under the guise of compliance, Cornell can muzzle a group calling out the unfortunate truth of Cornell's football difficulties.
Be curious to see if there's a Cornell football supporters [image of Big Red Bear with a gag in its mouth] tent at the Marist game. You have made plans to attend?

A recurring thought: How bad must Brown be to be ranked last, sorry, eighth, in the league forecast? Did the kids who got in with half-million-dollar donations decide they really wanted to play football?

Ken711

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Quote from: marty
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: CASThe CFA has indicated that they negotiated with the university but were unable to reach an agreement.  It's apparent they have zero confidence that the football program will receive the institutional support needed to be competitive.  Perhaps this action by football's greatest supporters will prompt the Cornell administration & board to examine the program & do what's necessary to enable us to compete.
the boosters don't bear the burden of compliance. if they aren't willing to play by the school's rules, they can't play at all. if you think that's unfair, try being a college athlete.
But isn't the University's position that CFA is not complying with NCAA rules?
that's MY point!
Cornell may be killing two, make that three, birds with one stone.
* Cornell bears the burden if a supporting group does something outside the boundaries of what the NCAA allows, so it clamps down.
* Cornell doesn't like other people telling it what to do.
* Under the guise of compliance, Cornell can muzzle a group calling out the unfortunate truth of Cornell's football difficulties.
Be curious to see if there's a Cornell football supporters [image of Big Red Bear with a gag in its mouth] tent at the Marist game. You have made plans to attend?

A recurring thought: How bad must Brown be to be ranked last, sorry, eighth, in the league forecast? Did the kids who got in with half-million-dollar donations decide they really wanted to play football?

Brown has a new coach which explains that forecasted finish, but a brighter future I would say from a coaching standpoint.

Trotsky

Homecoming opponent Georgetown leading their game at halftime 53-0.

scoop85

Quote from: TrotskyHomecoming opponent Georgetown leading their game at halftime 53-0.

...against Catholic U, a weak D3 team.  Nothing to see here.

Trotsky

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Quote from: TrotskyHomecoming opponent Georgetown leading their game at halftime 53-0.

...against Catholic U, a weak D3 team.  Nothing to see here.
Hope so.  Final 69-0, with Catholic rushing 23 times for -8 yards.

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: TrotskyHomecoming opponent Georgetown leading their game at halftime 53-0.

...against Catholic U, a weak D3 team.  Nothing to see here.
Hope so.  Final 69-0, with Catholic rushing 23 times for -8 yards.
Georgetown also walloped next week's Cornell opponent, Marist, 44-3.
Al DeFlorio '65

Ken711

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Quote from: TrotskyHomecoming opponent Georgetown leading their game at halftime 53-0.

...against Catholic U, a weak D3 team.  Nothing to see here.
Hope so.  Final 69-0, with Catholic rushing 23 times for -8 yards.
Georgetown also walloped next week's Cornell opponent, Marist, 44-3.

Cornell should easily beat Marist.

David Harding

From a Sun season preview.
Quote from: Archer"[We're] really [reinventing] the way we're doing things: We're running a different scheme on offense, we're on a different defense. The theme is going to be like a hybrid warfare approach, right? So conventional methods mixed with unconventional methods ... attacking thought processes and beliefs, while you're also attacking the weaknesses where [opponents] line up."

"I felt like my approach was 'Hey, I'm going to recruit the best players, I'm gonna develop them, I'm gonna run really sound schemes, and we're gonna beat people. And looking back on it, I don't think I gave us a good enough of a chance, schematically. And so trying to really open up the bag of tricks, if you will, and be really creative with what we're doing."

"I don't think I had enough schematic answers for us late in the season. Right, we finished in 2017, 0-3, 2018 finished 0-4. I think once we put too much stuff on film, I didn't give our team enough of a chance. I didn't have a good curveball ... off my fastball."

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: David HardingFrom a Sun season preview.
Quote from: Archer"[We're] really [reinventing] the way we're doing things: We're running a different scheme on offense, we're on a different defense. The theme is going to be like a hybrid warfare approach, right? So conventional methods mixed with unconventional methods ... attacking thought processes and beliefs, while you're also attacking the weaknesses where [opponents] line up."

"I felt like my approach was 'Hey, I'm going to recruit the best players, I'm gonna develop them, I'm gonna run really sound schemes, and we're gonna beat people. And looking back on it, I don't think I gave us a good enough of a chance, schematically. And so trying to really open up the bag of tricks, if you will, and be really creative with what we're doing."

"I don't think I had enough schematic answers for us late in the season. Right, we finished in 2017, 0-3, 2018 finished 0-4. I think once we put too much stuff on film, I didn't give our team enough of a chance. I didn't have a good curveball ... off my fastball."
Sounds like BS, and that he doesn't have a quarterback who can run a normal offense.
Al DeFlorio '65

marty

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Quote from: David HardingFrom a Sun season preview.
Quote from: Archer"[We're] really [reinventing] the way we're doing things: We're running a different scheme on offense, we're on a different defense. The theme is going to be like a hybrid warfare approach, right? So conventional methods mixed with unconventional methods ... attacking thought processes and beliefs, while you're also attacking the weaknesses where [opponents] line up."

"I felt like my approach was 'Hey, I'm going to recruit the best players, I'm gonna develop them, I'm gonna run really sound schemes, and we're gonna beat people. And looking back on it, I don't think I gave us a good enough of a chance, schematically. And so trying to really open up the bag of tricks, if you will, and be really creative with what we're doing."

"I don't think I had enough schematic answers for us late in the season. Right, we finished in 2017, 0-3, 2018 finished 0-4. I think once we put too much stuff on film, I didn't give our team enough of a chance. I didn't have a good curveball ... off my fastball."
Reads like BS, and that he doesn't have a quarterback who can run a normal offense.

Reads like gibberish to me but I'm not sure I can delineate the difference between BS and double talk.  Not sure Archer can either.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Swampy

Quote from: David HardingFrom a Sun season preview.
Quote from: Archer"[We're] really [reinventing] the way we're doing things: We're running a different scheme on offense, we're on a different defense. The theme is going to be like a hybrid warfare approach, right? So conventional methods mixed with unconventional methods ... attacking thought processes and beliefs, while you're also attacking the weaknesses where [opponents] line up."

"I felt like my approach was 'Hey, I'm going to recruit the best players, I'm gonna develop them, I'm gonna run really sound schemes, and we're gonna beat people. And looking back on it, I don't think I gave us a good enough of a chance, schematically. And so trying to really open up the bag of tricks, if you will, and be really creative with what we're doing."

"I don't think I had enough schematic answers for us late in the season. Right, we finished in 2017, 0-3, 2018 finished 0-4. I think once we put too much stuff on film, I didn't give our team enough of a chance. I didn't have a good curveball ... off my fastball."

Haven't there been very successful coaches who (a) recruit great players, (b) train them very well, and (c) execute plays the other teams can't stop even though they know what's coming?

So now Archer successfully recruited the best players. He developed them to their full potential. He had them run really sound schemes. But the only reason they lost was because the other teams weren't surprised?

I thought unpredictable surprise is the essence of some "sound" schemes, like play action.