Cornell lacrosse 2019

Started by billhoward, May 29, 2018, 07:15:33 AM

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Al DeFlorio

Quote from: CASDunno, Cornell's campus is gorgeous.  And I prefer being a student in a fabulous college town to New Haven.
I think he meant Dyke's campus, not Yale's.
Al DeFlorio '65

Trotsky

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: CASDunno, Cornell's campus is gorgeous.  And I prefer being a student in a fabulous college town to New Haven.
I think he meant Dyke's campus, not Yale's.
I thought he was making a clever comment in Duke's theft.  It really is the same campus.

Duke stole Yale's buildings.  Stanford stole Harvard's faculty.

RichH

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: CASDunno, Cornell's campus is gorgeous.  And I prefer being a student in a fabulous college town to New Haven.
I think he meant Dyke's campus, not Yale's.
I thought he was making a clever comment in Duke's theft.  It really is the same campus.

Duke stole Yale's buildings.  Stanford stole Harvard's faculty.

Harvard's faculty? Seven of the original fifteen Stanford faculty bolted Ithaca, thanks to David Starr Jordan.

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/34147-stanfords-cornell-roots.html

KenP

I was referring to Duke. And I don't know or care who stole what.  It's a beautiful campus and like Stanford is an example of athletic scholarships coexisting successfully with academic excellence.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: KenPI was referring to Duke. And I don't know or care who stole what.  It's a beautiful campus and like Stanford is an example of athletic scholarships coexisting successfully with academic excellence.

The question is whether there is academic excellence, or even competence, in their athletes.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: CASDunno, Cornell's campus is gorgeous.  And I prefer being a student in a fabulous college town to New Haven.
I think he meant Dyke's campus, not Yale's.
I thought he was making a clever comment in Duke's theft.  It really is the same campus.

Duke stole Yale's buildings.  Stanford stole Harvard's faculty.

Harvard's faculty? Seven of the original fifteen Stanford faculty bolted Ithaca, thanks to David Starr Jordan.

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/34147-stanfords-cornell-roots.html

Interesting.  I was referring primarily to the social sciences, where they rather famously just took Talcott Parsons' entourage and plunked them down on the Farm.  I was one of the third generation of that group.

It didn't take.

BearLover

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.
As opposed to the joy of Duke winning.
The guy's just a whiner, Bill.  Always has been.

And, yes, I'm delighted that an Ivy won the lacrosse championship.
"Just a whiner," or, just a regular sports fan? Go on a Duke Basketball forum, tell everyone how you're rooting for UNC in the game against Kentucky, and see how you fare.

There are costs to Cornell when its rivals do well. This is one of them.

ugarte

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.
As opposed to the joy of Duke winning.
The guy's just a whiner, Bill.  Always has been.

And, yes, I'm delighted that an Ivy won the lacrosse championship.
"Just a whiner," or, just a regular sports fan? Go on a Duke Basketball forum, tell everyone how you're rooting for UNC in the game against Kentucky, and see how you fare.

There are costs to Cornell when its rivals do well. This is one of them.
That you'll say the same goddamn thing every time, ad nauseam?

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.
As opposed to the joy of Duke winning.
The guy's just a whiner, Bill.  Always has been.

And, yes, I'm delighted that an Ivy won the lacrosse championship.
"Just a whiner," or, just a regular sports fan? Go on a Duke Basketball forum, tell everyone how you're rooting for UNC in the game against Kentucky, and see how you fare.

There are costs to Cornell when its rivals do well. This is one of them.
You're a whiner.  And annoying.  And embarrassing.

And I don't give a shit what Duke fans think.  You, too, for that matter.
Al DeFlorio '65

djk26

Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.

Ierlan may go to Yale, which would indeed suck, but there's been no official word yet.
David Klesh ILR '02

BearLover

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.
As opposed to the joy of Duke winning.
The guy's just a whiner, Bill.  Always has been.

And, yes, I'm delighted that an Ivy won the lacrosse championship.
"Just a whiner," or, just a regular sports fan? Go on a Duke Basketball forum, tell everyone how you're rooting for UNC in the game against Kentucky, and see how you fare.

There are costs to Cornell when its rivals do well. This is one of them.
You're a whiner.  And annoying.  And embarrassing.

And I don't give a shit what Duke fans think.  You, too, for that matter.
Yeah, because my statement was definitely specific to Duke fans.

We're potentially losing out on the biggest transfer in the country because one of our rivals started winning. I stopped harping awhile ago on the point that our rivals doing well will hurt us, but this seems like a very appropriate time to return to that argument given how clear the causality is.

scoop85

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.
As opposed to the joy of Duke winning.
The guy's just a whiner, Bill.  Always has been.

And, yes, I'm delighted that an Ivy won the lacrosse championship.
"Just a whiner," or, just a regular sports fan? Go on a Duke Basketball forum, tell everyone how you're rooting for UNC in the game against Kentucky, and see how you fare.

There are costs to Cornell when its rivals do well. This is one of them.
You're a whiner.  And annoying.  And embarrassing.

And I don't give a shit what Duke fans think.  You, too, for that matter.
Yeah, because my statement was definitely specific to Duke fans.

We're potentially losing out on the biggest transfer in the country because one of our rivals started winning. I stopped harping awhile ago on the point that our rivals doing well will hurt us, but this seems like a very appropriate time to return to that argument given how clear the causality is.

That makes no sense. We ourselves finished among the top 8 teams in the country in 2018, and with our without him we're poised to make another deep run next year. Yale lost a lot more talent than we did (including of course the fantastic Ben Reeves), so if he were making his choice from a pure "which team has the best chance to win it all next year" standpoint, that would be us.  While I'll be a bit baffled if Ierlan in fact choose Yale, he would be choosing to go there for some other reason than because Yale gives him the better chance to win.

BearLover

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.
As opposed to the joy of Duke winning.
The guy's just a whiner, Bill.  Always has been.

And, yes, I'm delighted that an Ivy won the lacrosse championship.
"Just a whiner," or, just a regular sports fan? Go on a Duke Basketball forum, tell everyone how you're rooting for UNC in the game against Kentucky, and see how you fare.

There are costs to Cornell when its rivals do well. This is one of them.
You're a whiner.  And annoying.  And embarrassing.

And I don't give a shit what Duke fans think.  You, too, for that matter.
Yeah, because my statement was definitely specific to Duke fans.

We're potentially losing out on the biggest transfer in the country because one of our rivals started winning. I stopped harping awhile ago on the point that our rivals doing well will hurt us, but this seems like a very appropriate time to return to that argument given how clear the causality is.

That makes no sense. We ourselves finished among the top 8 teams in the country in 2018, and with our without him we're poised to make another deep run next year. Yale lost a lot more talent than we did (including of course the fantastic Ben Reeves), so if he were making his choice from a pure "which team has the best chance to win it all next year" standpoint, that would be us.  While I'll be a bit baffled if Ierlan in fact choose Yale, he would be choosing to go there for some other reason than because Yale gives him the better chance to win.
But he would never be considering it if not for Yale's recent run of success. Just like he probably wouldn't be considering us if we hadn't finished in the final eight this year and had a history of winning.

ugarte

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.
As opposed to the joy of Duke winning.
The guy's just a whiner, Bill.  Always has been.

And, yes, I'm delighted that an Ivy won the lacrosse championship.
"Just a whiner," or, just a regular sports fan? Go on a Duke Basketball forum, tell everyone how you're rooting for UNC in the game against Kentucky, and see how you fare.

There are costs to Cornell when its rivals do well. This is one of them.
You're a whiner.  And annoying.  And embarrassing.

And I don't give a shit what Duke fans think.  You, too, for that matter.
Yeah, because my statement was definitely specific to Duke fans.

We're potentially losing out on the biggest transfer in the country because one of our rivals started winning. I stopped harping awhile ago on the point that our rivals doing well will hurt us, but this seems like a very appropriate time to return to that argument given how clear the causality is.

That makes no sense. We ourselves finished among the top 8 teams in the country in 2018, and with our without him we're poised to make another deep run next year. Yale lost a lot more talent than we did (including of course the fantastic Ben Reeves), so if he were making his choice from a pure "which team has the best chance to win it all next year" standpoint, that would be us.  While I'll be a bit baffled if Ierlan in fact choose Yale, he would be choosing to go there for some other reason than because Yale gives him the better chance to win.
But he would never be considering it if not for Yale's recent run of success. Just like he probably wouldn't be considering us if we hadn't finished in the final eight this year and had a history of winning.
The reason Yale has had a run of success wasn't because of their history of success, so the fact that Ierlan might choose them may have something to do with whatever made the other players choose them. You never stopped beating this drum.

scoop85

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: BearLoverCongrats to everyone on this forum who was happy for Yale's success, especially their national championship.
As opposed to the joy of Duke winning.
The guy's just a whiner, Bill.  Always has been.

And, yes, I'm delighted that an Ivy won the lacrosse championship.
"Just a whiner," or, just a regular sports fan? Go on a Duke Basketball forum, tell everyone how you're rooting for UNC in the game against Kentucky, and see how you fare.

There are costs to Cornell when its rivals do well. This is one of them.
You're a whiner.  And annoying.  And embarrassing.

And I don't give a shit what Duke fans think.  You, too, for that matter.
Yeah, because my statement was definitely specific to Duke fans.

We're potentially losing out on the biggest transfer in the country because one of our rivals started winning. I stopped harping awhile ago on the point that our rivals doing well will hurt us, but this seems like a very appropriate time to return to that argument given how clear the causality is.

That makes no sense. We ourselves finished among the top 8 teams in the country in 2018, and with our without him we're poised to make another deep run next year. Yale lost a lot more talent than we did (including of course the fantastic Ben Reeves), so if he were making his choice from a pure "which team has the best chance to win it all next year" standpoint, that would be us.  While I'll be a bit baffled if Ierlan in fact choose Yale, he would be choosing to go there for some other reason than because Yale gives him the better chance to win.
But he would never be considering it if not for Yale's recent run of success. Just like he probably wouldn't be considering us if we hadn't finished in the final eight this year and had a history of winning.

But then it would have been Brown, or Princeton or Harvard, etc., whoever was the "it" team. In lacrosse the Ivies have almost always had one or more elite programs in a given year, and since Ierlan seems to be putting a priority on academics, another Ivy will almost certainly have been in the mix anyway--this time it just happens to be Yale.