Cornell lacrosse 2019

Started by billhoward, May 29, 2018, 07:15:33 AM

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Trotsky

Interesting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll.  Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).

mike1960

Quote from: TrotskyInteresting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll.  Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).

To win games against quality opponents, I think there is a necessity to get around 50 percent.

ugarte

Quote from: TrotskyInteresting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll.  Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).
If Ierlan transferred to Cornell instead of Yale I think we're a runaway #1. Wins over Towson and Notre Dame and a one-goal loss to Penn with a huge possession disadvantage say a lot about what the offense is like. The defense is taking a lot of understandable crap, but they are constantly on their heels due to the problems at the X.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: TrotskyInteresting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll.  Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).
If Ierlan transferred to Cornell instead of Yale I think we're a runaway #1. Wins over Towson and Notre Dame and a one-goal loss to Penn with a huge possession disadvantage say a lot about what the offense is like. The defense is taking a lot of understandable crap, but they are constantly on their heels due to the problems at the X.
It sounds like it's important like goaltending in hockey.  You don't need an All-American to challenge for the title but (1) it helps a lot and (2) you can't have an utter deficient in there either.

upprdeck

5-10 more possessions mean a lot for a team that shoots as well as Cornell does.. added to that a few less possessions by the Opp probably means a few less penalties and that helps the D as well..

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: upprdeck5-10 more possessions mean a lot for a team that shoots as well as Cornell does.. added to that a few less possessions by the Opp probably means a few less penalties and that helps the D as well..
I'm thinking some of those too many penalties are from being overly aggressive in trying to overcome the faceoff deficit by creating turnovers.
Al DeFlorio '65

billhoward

Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: TrotskyInteresting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll.  Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).
To win games against quality opponents, I think there is a necessity to get around 50 percent.
That's my takeaway. Right now, 9 of 10 teams in the top 10 in polls are at 50% (rounded to 2 digits). If you're down 3 with 3 minutes to play, if you score to cut the deficit to 2, and odds are 2 in 3 you'll lose the next faceoff.

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyInteresting though that the top 10 in FO don't dominate the poll.  Apparently it's neither necessary (Duke, Loyola, Cornell) nor sufficient (Lehigh, Holy Cross, Hobart).
The top teams play tougher competition, with tougher FOGOs, than do many of the teams with ostensibly higher faceoff win%. So I don't think you can really conclude much just by absolute faceoff win% ranking, other than that Cornell is absolutely atrocious and that we would likely be #1 in the country if TD Irelan had chosen us over Yale. I'm not really sure how people can fault the rest of the team--offense, defense, midfield, goalie--when our per-possession stats are incredible.

Swampy

Quote from: upprdeck5-10 more possessions mean a lot for a team that shoots as well as Cornell does.. added to that a few less possessions by the Opp probably means a few less penalties and that helps the D as well..

And keeps the D fresher. (Like in hockey, when a team cycles in the offensive zone and wears down the other team's defense.)

upprdeck

Still surprise Irelan  didnt come to play his last year with his brother.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: upprdeckStill surprise Irelan  didnt come to play his last year with his brother.
He has next year, too.  Probably feels he's one-upped his brother by going to Yale.  I'm guessing seeing his brother going to Cornell was part of his motivation for wanting out of Albany.
Al DeFlorio '65

upprdeck

I would not be surprised if also was not just a pure money based decision.

Swampy

Maybe he just liked Yale more.

Some time ago I compared the web sites of Cornell's and Yale's economics departments. I found Cornell's to be dry and mostly about fulfilling requirements, while Yale's was exciting and about why studying economics at Yale was special. So what's his major?

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: SwampyMaybe he just liked Yale more.

Some time ago I compared the web sites of Cornell's and Yale's economics departments. I found Cornell's to be dry and mostly about fulfilling requirements, while Yale's was exciting and about why studying economics at Yale was special. So what's his major?
He's an economics major at Yale, I think, but was looking at the Dyson school at Cornell.  Yale has no undergrad business school so econ is the closest major.
Al DeFlorio '65

CU77

Early rumors were that TD was coming to Cornell. Switch to Yale came after he visited there.