Cornell lacrosse 2019

Started by billhoward, May 29, 2018, 07:15:33 AM

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billhoward

Cornell climbs to 8 from 10 in media poll, with Syracuse and Notre Dame to play this week. Penn State now has all of the first-place votes. Team on Cornell's schedule in bold.

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team                Points Prev
[b]1 Penn State (9 - 1) 520(26) 1[/b]
2 Loyola (8 - 2)        471 2
3 Maryland (9 - 2) 458 3
4 Virginia (9 - 2) 436 4
[b]5 Yale (7 - 2)        418 5
6 Penn (6 - 3)        390 6[/b]
7 Duke (9 - 3)        377 8
[b][color=#FF0000]8 Cornell (7 - 3) 314 10[/color][/b]
[b]9 Syracuse (6 - 3) 304 11
10 Notre Dame (5 - 4) 270 7[/b]
[b]11 Towson (7 - 3)        257 12[/b]
12 Ohio State (7 - 2) 251 9
13 High Point (9 - 2) 225 14
14 Villanova (7 - 4) 161 22
15 Denver (6 - 4)        132 13
16 Johns Hopkins (6 - 4) 128 21
[b]17 Lehigh (7 - 4)        104 15[/b]
18 North Carolina (7 - 4) 77 19
19 UMass (7 - 4)        43 17
20 Army (8 - 3)        30 16
Receiving Votes: Delaware, Richmond, Rutgers, Boston University, Georgetown, Marquette, [b]Princeton[/b], Mount St Mary's.


Coaches' poll TK.

djk26

Thanks for posting that, Bill, and bolding Cornell's opponents.  You have to give the coaches (Coach Pete in particular) a lot of credit for putting together such a strong schedule for Cornell this year.  If we had beaten Penn I'd feel much better about the season--as it is we are are probably one loss away from losing any chance at an at-large bid.  As I type that it seems a little too bleak so I hope am wrong about that.
David Klesh ILR '02

upprdeck

who knows where at large will go..  there will by about 8? almost everyone below us has 3-4 losses too and many will end up with 5-6.  we split with ND and only lose to penn/yale in ivy we have a pretty solid resume.

those teams in the ACC will almost all get 1 more loss too and they are all the teams in the at large pool..

too Yale lost to Vill

if we come  out of this week at 8-4 at worst and then beat prince/brown i think 10-5 or 11-5 gets us in. 2 top 10 wins and 5 top 10 losses . if we lose both this week probably need to beat penn or yale.

Swampy

Latest episode of The Season is very informative about the coach and team this year, but depressing too.

Trotsky

I'd never seen this before.  Yikes.


Trotsky


Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: TrotskyI knew about that one.  Or, for that matter.

37 spectators.  Where did they play the game?  Meehan?

Al DeFlorio

Interesting chart showing tournament probabilities:

http://laxbytes.com/2019/binmenstats/ncaapb01.php

Cornell #3 in SOS; #1 in average RPI of losses; two significant wins (ND and Towson); no significant losses.
Al DeFlorio '65

mike1960

Quote from: Al DeFlorioInteresting chart showing tournament probabilities:

http://laxbytes.com/2019/binmenstats/ncaapb01.php

Cornell #3 in SOS; #1 in average RPI of losses; two significant wins (ND and Towson); no significant losses.

Sometimes logic does not seem to matter in these kinds of things. Let's hope it does this time.

upprdeck

ND is in an interesting spot and they are one team in the mix with us..

6-5 with UNC left, they lose that and the first ACC game they cant get in at 6-7.

i they go 1-1 will they take a 7-6 ND team over us if we go 2-1 and finish 10-5 and beat ND?
UNC if they lose to ND goes to 7-6

JH probably goes to 6-7 with the b10 tourney left

how would Towson get in ahead of us losing 18-11 to us and only the loyola win as a good one
Denver will have only 1 good win if they dont win out and one one of Vill/Denver has to lose too

Mt st marys wont get in ahead of us without winning that league

we are in pretty good shape if the B10 top 3 win the title and UNC/ND dont win the acc and finish with 3 quality wins

Swampy

From this week's Inside Lacrosse's "Quint's Top 20"

Quote from: Quint Kessenich10. Cornell An unimpressive loss in the Dome highlights Cornell's issues. When you can't win a face-off and your defense resembles Swiss cheese, you're not going to beat quality opponents. The Big Red got pushed around during 50/50 groundballs. The close defense got run by; they don't have a No. 1 cover man. Sloppy passes are costly when your possession margin is slim. Time of possession was scarce. Shot selection was poor. Jeff Teat (2A) and Clarke Petterson (2A) were blanked.

A Sunday bounce-back win against Notre Dame was essential to stay in the hunt for an at-large bid and will be a launching pad for the stretch run. Big Red defended, they scrapped for face-offs and groundballs. They maximized possessions. Chayse Ierlan made 17 stops. Cornell is in desperation mode. Sometimes teams need to go there to maximize their focus.

I don't usually put much stake in QK's opinions of Cornell Lacrosse, but this one seems right on the money.

billhoward

USILA polls: https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1/usila-coaches

1. Penn State
2. Maryland was 3
3. Duke was 6
4. Yale was 5
5. Penn was 7
...
 9. Syracuse was 11 beats Cornell +2 spots
10. Cornell was 10 loses to Syracuse, beats Notre Dame
11. Notre Dame was 12 loses to Cornell +1 spot


Inside Lacrosse poll https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1/inside-lacrosse has Cornell dropping from 8 to 10 but Notre Dame drops 2 to 12 and Syracuse climes 2 to 7.

Al DeFlorio

Cornell-Brown game televised on NESN Saturday.
Al DeFlorio '65

billhoward

Of this week's top ten in the USILA polls, their rankings on team faceoff percentage (not in poll order) include:

 1
11
12
13
15
17
28
30
35
67


Where's Cornell? 10th in the polls and 67th (of 73 teams) in faceoffs. How bad are Cornell's faceoff stats? Every team in the top 10 has a winning faceoff percentage except Loyola at .496 (rounds to 50%) and Cornell at .365. The difference from first to ninth is .275 and the difference between ninth and tenth is another .131. I would like to see the imputed goal value of each faceoff won.



[b]USILA Top 10 Teams      Records    F/O  (rank)[/b]
 1. Penn State          10-1       .594 (15)   .694 25x36 vs. Cornell (PSU F/O pct.)      
 2. Maryland            10-2       .598 (13)
 3. Duke                10-3       .530 (30)
 4. Yale                 8-2       .771 ( 1)   .800  24X30 vs. Cornell
 5. Penn                 7-3       .600 (12)   .606  24x33 vs. Cornell  
 6. Virginia             9-3       .552 (28)      
 7. Ohio State           8-2       .585 (17)
 8. Loyola Md.           9-3       .496 (35)
 9. Syracuse             8-3       .607 (11)   .680  17x25 vs. Cornell
10. Cornell              8-4       .365 (67)  

[b]Teams F/O Pecentage .600 or Higher
Teams .600 or Higher               F/O  (rank)[/b]
13. Towson                         .771 ( 2)  .813  26x32 vs. Cornell
HM  Lehigh                         .682 ( 4)  .667  18x27 vs. Cornell
NR  Holy Cross                     .641 ( 5)
NR  Cleveland State                .624 ( 6)
NR  Hobart                         .622 ( 7)  .639  22x39 vs. Cornell
15  UMass                          .617 ( 8)
NR  St Joseph's                    .612 ( 9)
NR  Hampton                        .611 (10)


The teams below Cornell on faceoffs have records of
3-8
9-3 (Army, 17th in the 4/15 poll.)
2-9
4-9
4-9
0-12 St. Bonaventure .240 (.200 vs. Cornell)

And yet we're in the top ten.