Injuries

Started by Chris '03, February 06, 2018, 05:49:16 PM

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Swampy

Quote from: BearLoverAlso, re: ethics, I think the only ethical grey area here is whether there is something problematic about signing up for an opposing team's mailing list just to glean injury information.

A bigger ethical issue is letting a player start playing again who's not 100%. It the player's injury could be made worse, or it might cause the player to have a lifetime of pain or other disability, then I would argue the player should not play, even if this costs the team a trophy.

Weder

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Quote from: BearLoverWhether to post about injuries mentioned in Schafer's weekly letter is a practical, not ethical, issue: we don't want other teams finding out. Obviously Schafer stating the injury situation/the Sun publishing it renders this conversation moot, but I have gotten the sense that when Schafer says something in the weekly email or at a Coach's Club meeting, but doesn't disclose it outside of that, he means for it to stay private (i.e., we probably shouldn't post about it here).
There is nothing - literally nothing - that Schafer puts in the alumni newsletter or says in a group setting - that he doesn't expect to show up in the IJ.

And as a team alum, Casey Jones is almost certainly getting those emails.
3/8/96

nshapiro

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Quote from: SwampyLots of good information here: http://cornellsun.com/2018/02/06/junior-captain-vanderlaan-to-miss-remainder-of-2017-18-season/

Very clear that V is out for RS but might be back afterwards.
That's a good article.

I wonder if Nick Foles can skate?

He's ours...you can't have him.  Take Malcolm Butler.


Take Beau Allen - an Eagles free agent from Minn. who was apparently a dominating hockey player before football became his only sport.
When Section D was the place to be

CU2007

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: BearLoverAlso, re: ethics, I think the only ethical grey area here is whether there is something problematic about signing up for an opposing team's mailing list just to glean injury information.

A bigger ethical issue is letting a player start playing again who's not 100%. It the player's injury could be made worse, or it might cause the player to have a lifetime of pain or other disability, then I would argue the player should not play, even if this costs the team a trophy.

Depends on the potential for injury and the player himself. There was a D3 (I think) college football player a few years back who had his damn pinky amputated so he could play in his team's playoffs. You could probably find the story by googling.

Side note: Personally, no idea what he was thinking.

KenP

Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: BearLoverAlso, re: ethics, I think the only ethical grey area here is whether there is something problematic about signing up for an opposing team's mailing list just to glean injury information.

A bigger ethical issue is letting a player start playing again who's not 100%. It the player's injury could be made worse, or it might cause the player to have a lifetime of pain or other disability, then I would argue the player should not play, even if this costs the team a trophy.

Depends on the potential for injury and the player himself. There was a D3 (I think) college football player a few years back who had his damn pinky amputated so he could play in his team's playoffs. You could probably find the story by googling.

Side note: Personally, no idea what he was thinking.
http://www.espn.com/ncf/story?id=3624798&src=desktop

BigRedHockeyFan

Gotta wonder how many Clarkson players are hurting.  They have slacked off, starting with the Harvard tie.

BearLover

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverWhether to post about injuries mentioned in Schafer's weekly letter is a practical, not ethical, issue: we don't want other teams finding out. Obviously Schafer stating the injury situation/the Sun publishing it renders this conversation moot, but I have gotten the sense that when Schafer says something in the weekly email or at a Coach's Club meeting, but doesn't disclose it outside of that, he means for it to stay private (i.e., we probably shouldn't post about it here).
There is nothing - literally nothing - that Schafer puts in the alumni newsletter or says in a group setting - that he doesn't expect to show up in the IJ.
And you know this how? Does it ever actually show up in the IJ?

Trotsky

Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanGotta wonder how many Clarkson players are hurting.  They have slacked off, starting with the Harvard tie.
On the flip side we caught SLU before with half their lineup out and all those guys are back now.  

I would not be heartbroken to get out of this weekend with 2 points.

scoop85

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanGotta wonder how many Clarkson players are hurting.  They have slacked off, starting with the Harvard tie.
On the flip side we caught SLU before with half their lineup out and all those guys are back now.  

I would not be heartbroken to get out of this weekend with 2 points.

Same here. Interesting that SLUt is playing better since Ben Finkelstein, arguably their best player, left the team. May be a case of addition by subtraction.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanGotta wonder how many Clarkson players are hurting.  They have slacked off, starting with the Harvard tie.
On the flip side we caught SLU before with half their lineup out and all those guys are back now.  

I would not be heartbroken to get out of this weekend with 2 points.

Same here. Interesting that SLUt is playing better since Ben Finkelstein, arguably their best player, left the team. May be a case of addition by subtraction.
Like the Brattons and Virginia lacrosse.
Al DeFlorio '65

ugarte

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverWhether to post about injuries mentioned in Schafer's weekly letter is a practical, not ethical, issue: we don't want other teams finding out. Obviously Schafer stating the injury situation/the Sun publishing it renders this conversation moot, but I have gotten the sense that when Schafer says something in the weekly email or at a Coach's Club meeting, but doesn't disclose it outside of that, he means for it to stay private (i.e., we probably shouldn't post about it here).
There is nothing - literally nothing - that Schafer puts in the alumni newsletter or says in a group setting - that he doesn't expect to show up in the IJ.
And you know this how?
Because he's not a fucking moron.

CU2007

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverWhether to post about injuries mentioned in Schafer's weekly letter is a practical, not ethical, issue: we don't want other teams finding out. Obviously Schafer stating the injury situation/the Sun publishing it renders this conversation moot, but I have gotten the sense that when Schafer says something in the weekly email or at a Coach's Club meeting, but doesn't disclose it outside of that, he means for it to stay private (i.e., we probably shouldn't post about it here).
There is nothing - literally nothing - that Schafer puts in the alumni newsletter or says in a group setting - that he doesn't expect to show up in the IJ.
And you know this how?
Because he's not a fucking moron.

YIKES. It's true though. If Schafer were trying to keep secrets, he wouldn't put anything in some mailing list, nor blab about it at a luncheon. He'd keep it a secret.

Trotsky

Quote from: CU2007YIKES. It's true though. If Schafer were trying to keep secrets, he wouldn't put anything in some mailing list, nor blab about it at a luncheon. He'd keep it a secret.

No.  That's just what they'll be expecting us to do.


Jim Hyla

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverWhether to post about injuries mentioned in Schafer's weekly letter is a practical, not ethical, issue: we don't want other teams finding out. Obviously Schafer stating the injury situation/the Sun publishing it renders this conversation moot, but I have gotten the sense that when Schafer says something in the weekly email or at a Coach's Club meeting, but doesn't disclose it outside of that, he means for it to stay private (i.e., we probably shouldn't post about it here).
There is nothing - literally nothing - that Schafer puts in the alumni newsletter or says in a group setting - that he doesn't expect to show up in the IJ.
And you know this how?
Because he's not a fucking moron.

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Tcl123

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverWhether to post about injuries mentioned in Schafer's weekly letter is a practical, not ethical, issue: we don't want other teams finding out. Obviously Schafer stating the injury situation/the Sun publishing it renders this conversation moot, but I have gotten the sense that when Schafer says something in the weekly email or at a Coach's Club meeting, but doesn't disclose it outside of that, he means for it to stay private (i.e., we probably shouldn't post about it here).
There is nothing - literally nothing - that Schafer puts in the alumni newsletter or says in a group setting - that he doesn't expect to show up in the IJ.
And you know this how?
Because he's not a fucking moron.

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