Where are our Alumni Playing Now

Started by Jim Hyla, September 04, 2017, 09:14:26 AM

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Scersk '97

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardWe did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.

Uh, he's a nice player for the Ivies, but not a high-major talent

And it's squeakball, so who gives a crap.

scoop85

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardWe did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.

Uh, he's a nice player for the Ivies, but not a high-major talent
Do you think we don't understand that?  Or that Bill doesn't?  I suspect Bill was even implying that in making his post.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector was not working.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardWe did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.

Uh, he's a nice player for the Ivies, but not a high-major talent
Do you think we don't understand that?  Or that Bill doesn't?  I suspect Bill was even implying that in making his post.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector was not working.

I didn't pick up on that either. It's the problem with the written word versus observed speech. In person you'd see the facial expressions.

That's why we have emojis, or italics: We did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaIt's the problem with the written word versus observed speech. In person you'd see the facial expressions.

That's a feature, not a bug.

pfibiger

Quote from: TrotskyMy take in these situations is the kid better not have had the grades.  Otherwise there's just no excuse not to have landed him.

According to this thread on uscho:

http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?120378-Colgate-2017-18&p=6670600&viewfull=1#post6670600

QuoteHe had good grades.
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org

ugarte

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardWe did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.

Uh, he's a nice player for the Ivies, but not a high-major talent
Do you think we don't understand that?  Or that Bill doesn't?  I suspect Bill was even implying that in making his post.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector was not working.

I didn't pick up on that either. It's the problem with the written word versus observed speech. In person you'd see the facial expressions.

That's why we have emojis, or italics: We did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.
Jim, I've said this before and I have to insist on it: emojis are a crutch. Context clues, like "good faith on the part of the reader" are more useful than emojis in detecting sarcasm and jokes. People wrote books for thousands of years without even a "j/k" and other people figured out how to read them.

Swampy

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardWe did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.

Uh, he's a nice player for the Ivies, but not a high-major talent
Do you think we don't understand that?  Or that Bill doesn't?  I suspect Bill was even implying that in making his post.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector was not working.

I didn't pick up on that either. It's the problem with the written word versus observed speech. In person you'd see the facial expressions.

That's why we have emojis, or italics: We did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.
Jim, I've said this before and I have to insist on it: emojis are a crutch. Context clues, like "good faith on the part of the reader" are more useful than emojis in detecting sarcasm and jokes. People wrote books for thousands of years without even a "j/k" and other people figured out how to read them.

Why should we have to suffer today just because people did things an old-fashioned way for thousands of years?

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardWe did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.

Uh, he's a nice player for the Ivies, but not a high-major talent
Do you think we don't understand that?  Or that Bill doesn't?  I suspect Bill was even implying that in making his post.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector was not working.

I didn't pick up on that either. It's the problem with the written word versus observed speech. In person you'd see the facial expressions.

That's why we have emojis, or italics: We did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.
Jim, I've said this before and I have to insist on it: emojis are a crutch. Context clues, like "good faith on the part of the reader" are more useful than emojis in detecting sarcasm and jokes. People wrote books for thousands of years without even a "j/k" and other people figured out how to read them.

Why should we have to suffer today just because people did things an old-fashioned way for thousands of years?

Sarcasm?  

::innocent::

Jim Hyla

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardWe did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.

Uh, he's a nice player for the Ivies, but not a high-major talent
Do you think we don't understand that?  Or that Bill doesn't?  I suspect Bill was even implying that in making his post.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector was not working.

I didn't pick up on that either. It's the problem with the written word versus observed speech. In person you'd see the facial expressions.

That's why we have emojis, or italics: We did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.
Jim, I've said this before and I have to insist on it: emojis are a crutch. Context clues, like "good faith on the part of the reader" are more useful than emojis in detecting sarcasm and jokes. People wrote books for thousands of years without even a "j/k" and other people figured out how to read them.

All of that is true. However with the speed that people are writing now, I'm not sure that we'll ever get back to that. Hell, we can't even get people to use punctuation and capitals, say nothing of proofreading before hitting post or send. If emojis allow a quick and easy way to interpret, I say use them.

Hopefully the writing of books will never require them, but for emails and online posts, use them if they will help in understanding.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Beeeej

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: billhowardWe did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.

Uh, he's a nice player for the Ivies, but not a high-major talent
Do you think we don't understand that?  Or that Bill doesn't?  I suspect Bill was even implying that in making his post.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector was not working.

I didn't pick up on that either. It's the problem with the written word versus observed speech. In person you'd see the facial expressions.

That's why we have emojis, or italics: We did steal Jimmy Boeheim from Syracuse.
Jim, I've said this before and I have to insist on it: emojis are a crutch. Context clues, like "good faith on the part of the reader" are more useful than emojis in detecting sarcasm and jokes. People wrote books for thousands of years without even a "j/k" and other people figured out how to read them.

All of that is true. However with the speed that people are writing now, I'm not sure that we'll ever get back to that. Hell, we can't even get people to use punctuation and capitals, say nothing of proofreading before hitting post or send. If emojis allow a quick and easy way to interpret, I say use them.

Hopefully the writing of books will never require them, but for emails and online posts, use them if they will help in understanding.

Alas, the use of emojis in one's own writing to aid the reader in understanding - particularly when it comes to things like sarcasm and other humor - requires a certain amount of self-awareness that one's readers are going to need the help.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Trotsky

Quote from: BeeeejAlas, the use of emojis in one's own writing to aid the reader in understanding - particularly when it comes to things like sarcasm and other humor - requires a certain amount of self-awareness that one's readers are going to need the help.
Writing has always been at multiple levels.  A sentence which expresses anything new or interesting will by definition leave half the readership behind.  The choice is dumb it down for that half (call this the Facebook Method) or... well... fuck em.

abmarks

Quote from: pfibiger
Quote from: TrotskyMy take in these situations is the kid better not have had the grades.  Otherwise there's just no excuse not to have landed him.

According to this thread on uscho:

http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?120378-Colgate-2017-18&p=6670600&viewfull=1#post6670600

QuoteHe had good grades.

If you read that thread closely, pretty sure that "He had good grades" was intended as a joke - it was in reply to "wonder how Schafer missed him?"

BearLover

Academic standards for playing hockey, even at an Ivy, aren't very high. If this kid had ambitions of playing for Cornell, he could have gotten the B average or whatever he needed to do so. And the son of a guy who played 650 NHL games going with the cheaper option? Possible, but again it seems unlikely. The most likely reality is that for some reason he preferred Colgate to Cornell. Maybe he didn't want to skate in his father's shadow? It's a bad loss however it happened. It does seem Cornell was getting more NHL talent 10, 15 years ago.

Trotsky

There are also, cough, accommodations for famous alums' kids.  I have to think it was his choice.

So.  Bad parenting.

pfibiger

If his parents are doing well financially it might be the difference between $0 for his education and $250,000. That's hard to fault them for if so.
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org