Florida College Classic

[Jim Hyla]

There's the first "bad" loss. But there's a lot of hockey between now and March.

Second; the Merrimack loss was just as bad.

Not as the first game of the season, when they had played 6. Now if we lose the next one, that's bad.

[GBR1234]

Do we know why Gilliam didn't play?

In the pregame coach S. said he'd been working really hard and deserved the start.

[Trotsky]

I hate this fucking tournament.

It really has become an albatross.

It would be great, if we won...

[ugarte]

There's the first "bad" loss. But there's a lot of hockey between now and March.

Second; the Merrimack loss was just as bad.

Not as the first game of the season, when they had played 6. Now if we lose the next one, that's bad.

Pairwise doesn't care if you lose to a shitty team in November or February.

[billhoward]

There's the first "bad" loss. But there's a lot of hockey between now and March.

Second; the Merrimack loss was just as bad.

Not as the first game of the season, when they had played 6. Now if we lose the next one, that's bad.

Ouch! This sets the stage for the dismal January swoon that has become a Cornell hockey tradition in our minds even if it is not statistically so.

[billhoward]

You know about debarking surgical procedures? Quite effective. Not clear if it's cruel to the dog (actually, maybe it is) but then think what he's already had lopped off. Our gen 2 terrier is a whiner where the first one never yipped or whined when left alone, but then we're on 1.5 acres, not in a condo, and distance equals noise abatement. Good luck. Maybe a good trainer?

[billhoward]

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3812  reported day 1 attendance 2016 vs. Germain Arena hockey capacity 7181
3772  reported day 2 attendance (including tickets sold not used?)
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7584  2-day reported total

We have family in SW Florida, this gives us a second reason to spend the last week of the year in Florida, and we hope the tournament keeps going. Can it? We need teams with larger fan bases (Wisconsin, Michigan, Notre Dame, BC, Ohio State) except if they're in larger metro areas, it's a chance for them to host their own holiday tournaments at home. We lucked out two years ago when participant Providence turned out to be the defending national champion. Be nice to get Penn State to play in the next year or two, unless they've already grown too big for Estero.

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Team Appear Champ
Maine 14 6
Cornell 17 4
Ohio State 5 1
St. Cloud 3 1
Boston College 2 1
N Michigan 2 1
Lake SuperiorSt 1 1
UMass Lowell 1 1
Clarkson 3 0
Massachusetts 2 0
Miami 2 0
Minn–Duluth 2 0
New Hampshire 2 0
Notre Dame 2 0
Princeton 2 0
Colgate 1 0
Colorado Col 2 1
Merrimack 1 0
Ferris State 1 0
Northeastern 1 0
Providence 1 0
W Michigan 1 0
Merrimack 1 0


[marty]

It was 2015 (last year) for Providence followed by the Buckeye crash.

[George64]

I am a maybe, likely no this year.

My sweet girl (and avatar) Abby-Baby passed away in July at the age of 11. She had a tumor on her heart and there were no options. I have adopted a new canine companion - Eden the Elf - a four year old 40 lb black and tan coonhound mix who has separation anxiety.

I have only had her ~ 10 weeks and we are slowly working through this issue, but in the meantime, I cannot leave her for long periods of time. She barks, howls and whines and we live in a condo building with horrible acoustics.  

It is a good thing I work for a small company with a boss that loves dogs and lets me bring her to work. And yes, I have a type .

You know about debarking surgical procedures? Quite effective. Not clear if it's cruel to the dog (actually, maybe it is) but then think what he's already had lopped off. Our gen 2 terrier is a whiner where the first one never yipped or whined when left alone, but then we're on 1.5 acres, not in a condo, and distance equals noise abatement. Good luck. Maybe a good trainer?

Try a no bark collar.  It gives a mild shock that gets progressively stronger if she continues to bark.  It worked with my Jake.  I only use it now if he has a relapse, which is very rare. He hasn't suffered any psychological damage, at least as far as I can tell.

[Jim Hyla]

There's the first "bad" loss. But there's a lot of hockey between now and March.

Second; the Merrimack loss was just as bad.

Not as the first game of the season, when they had played 6. Now if we lose the next one, that's bad.

Pairwise doesn't care if you lose to a shitty team in November or February.

You're right, but I didn't realize that this discussion was about PWR. I was referring to my prior post on this thread:

"As I posted on the chat, we beat the teams that we should, now we need to show that we can win some of the tougher ones."

By that definition I didn't consider the first game as one that we necessarily should have won and that's why I was happy we didn't play both games in the beginning. I think we have a much better chance of winning now, than we did then.

But now this is a game that we have to show we can win.

[wakester2468]

After all of the years CU has played in this tournament,I finally made the decision to take it in this year.
Let me just say it will be the last time. While most holiday tournaments lack in enthusiasm, this one is particularly bad.
I understand the Cornell connection to these games but I believe CU has been more than honorable supporting it.
Would love to see a holiday tournament resurface at Lake Placid as in the past. It's a fabulous setting during this time of year and might actually allow
for a little competitive advantage should they make the ECAC final four in March.

[Trotsky]

I wouldn't mind seeing Cornell try to host a tourney a la the RPI Invitational.  IIRC the arguments against it were the lack of lockerroom space and the generally shitty condition of the "back office" facilities, but those have been improved in the refurbishments.

Lynah is a fun, historic place to play, and we could concentrate on invitees who rarely/never get to go there (the AHA and the west).

The idea of hosting a tourney at LP, and thus making that a "home" site in March, is terrific, but I believe that place is booked solid with underage tourneys all through December.  Maybe we could co-host with Clarkson and pump a little life into that rivalry.  With Casey there the negotiations should be easy.

[ursusminor]

Trotsky,

Didn't Cornell host a tourney many years ago?

A problem that RPI had in recent years was getting quality opponents to attend who wouldn't treat this as a two-game series at RPI demanding two games in their barn in return. From RPI's point of view having two games in Troy and having to play a total of six away games was a no-go, so we ended up having poorer and poorer tourneys.

[Trotsky]

Trotsky,

Didn't Cornell host a tourney many years ago?

A problem that RPI had in recent years was getting quality opponents to attend who wouldn't treat this as a two-game series at RPI demanding two games in their barn in return. From RPI's point of view having two games in Troy and having to play a total of six away games was a no-go, so we ended up having poorer and poorer tourneys.

Cornell did host briefly.  Arthur would remember in detail by the impression is it Did Not Go Well.

I'm sure we would have the same home/away issue, and Mike would insist as well.  The more I think about the Clarkson/Cornell co-host at Placid the more I love it.  

[Hooking]

Cornell has played consistently over the past few years. The performance of this year's team resembles that of last year's team, right through the Estero Tournament. Complacency sucks.