Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust

[Trotsky]

c) which church is this?

Unitarian Universalist.  Of course.

[billhoward]

One time in my 30s I was nearly clotheslined by the bouncer at the Chapter House because it didn't occur to me that I would need to show my ID while strolling in the front door.

There is a belief that some bars try to keep out people beyond their 20s, certainly their 30s, and they'll reject you for not having a license. The bouncer is told to say, "We treat everyone equally, have to show ID." There have been a couple cases where someone obviously over 21 who left his ID at home or in the car, has sued, perhaps mostly because he's pissed off, and the courts have agreed. It happened to me in my early 30s in Northampton, Mass., a clearly college community, and they used the line "we card everybody." This is an era before people learned to mouth the words I Want to Speak to Your Manager. So you could be rejected at a higher level.

[jtwcornell91]

One time in my 30s I was nearly clotheslined by the bouncer at the Chapter House because it didn't occur to me that I would need to show my ID while strolling in the front door.

There is a belief that some bars try to keep out people beyond their 20s, certainly their 30s, and they'll reject you for not having a license. The bouncer is told to say, "We treat everyone equally, have to show ID." There have been a couple cases where someone obviously over 21 who left his ID at home or in the car, has sued, perhaps mostly because he's pissed off, and the courts have agreed. It happened to me in my early 30s in Northampton, Mass., a clearly college community, and they used the line "we card everybody." This is an era before people learned to mouth the words I Want to Speak to Your Manager. So you could be rejected at a higher level.

I'm pretty sure The Chapter House never tried to keep anyone out for being too old.

[billhoward]

Nor did the Royal Palm, 1941-2012, keep anyone out for being too old. Always seemed to be a number of alumni/grad students who never wanted to leave and who never believed they'd go bald on top and have a gray ponytail before reaching 40.

Why can't the National Register of Historic Places fight to keep alive one like-a-dive-bar bar in each college town? Has to be college related, so the Chanticleer downtown would never to qualify under another section of the law. The Fall Creek House would.

[Trotsky]

They should have saved the ceiling from the Palms.  My god that was disgusting.

[David Harding]

More restaurant action, though not in Collegetown.  Kelly's on the west side of town is for sale.  https://www.14850.com/052536701-kellys-dockside-sale/

[upprdeck]

Not the worlds best Pizza but i guess I didnt notice Pats shut down the ithaca location a few months ago.  It was good value with large slices and some nice slice variety.

[RatushnyFan]

FWIW, Dunbar's was very thorough about checking IDs when I was a student.

Back when we had a more rational drinking age, I suspect a great many bars were much more thorough in checking IDs. Separating the high-school crowd from the college crowd makes sense; separating the college crowd from itself never really has.

During my years (88-92) it was usually a backup goalie (Jim Crozier).  Tough to get in underage (unless you were on the team of course).

And regarding the legal drinking age, there was a pure arbitrage opportunity just waiting to be exploited --> Montreal!!  Toronto was closer, but Montreal was worth the extra couple of hours.  Drinking age was 18 and back in my day it was C$2/US$1.  Went there many many times.

[George64]

What happened to the Johnny's Big Red Grill sign? Here's the answer!

[David Harding]

What happened to the Johnny's Big Red Grill sign? Here's the answer!

Thanks for pointing out the article.  I was prompted to look up the American Sign Museum and found the Johnny's sign in their on-line catalog.  https://www.americansignmuseum.org/entry/?search=johnny%27s&page_number=1&entry_id=47a9b540-dd5f-11ee-8bc7-ab576bf17a06

[upprdeck]

What happened to make Ithaca Beer close in collegetown?

[David Harding]

What happened to make Ithaca Beer close in collegetown?

No answer to the question, but a mention of the closing along with longer accounts of several other Collegetown restaurant closings.  https://www.14850.com/091038002-collegetown-closures-2409/

[Scersk '97]

What happened to make Ithaca Beer close in collegetown?

No answer to the question, but a mention of the closing along with longer accounts of several other Collegetown restaurant closings.  https://www.14850.com/091038002-collegetown-closures-2409/

Maybe it was the ugly interior design interacting with an agoraphobia-creating swathe of windows?

Bring back Oliver's! (And all the other spaces we are missing.)

[Trotsky]

Bring back Oliver's! (And all the other spaces we are missing.)

Seconded.

Also, raze any building in C-town over 2 stories.

[upprdeck]

good news is that Wing over finally brought back crinkle fries