Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust

[upprdeck]

And Joes shuts down this week too..  Long past its prime but still a place around for like 50-75 yrs

the college town of 25 yrs ago was a great place..

How could such a big campus not actually support decent places anymore and why dont the new owners of these buildings realize that a vibrant night life just adds to people want to be there?

[billhoward]

How could such a big campus not actually support decent places anymore and why dont the new owners of these buildings realize that a vibrant night life just adds to people want to be there?

You might need a planned economy and subsidies for the things that make Collegetown be Collegetown: scruffy bars, bagel delis. Put Cornell in charge ... they'd subsidize a 24-hour copy center and Italian restaurants not Asian fusion, or they'd get caught up in a never-ending debate about why is Eddy Street Pizza subsidized when it doesn't have enough variety of vegan pies and they can't prove the olive oil was sustainably farmed.

If there's one thing Collegetown needs, it's a supermarket that doesn't force you 1-3 miles away to Aldi, Wegman's, P&C. Okay, there's Greenstar so you've got something.

New York City has the same issues orders of magnitude bigger: an area is a dump, artists move in, it becomes cool, rents go up, artists forced out, your neighbors are young urban professionals, and then Taylor Swift moves in.

[jtwcornell91]

I think this is a problem all over the world: developers rush to build housing, but the service economy that makes a place livable (grocery stores, bakeries, restaurants, banks) always seem to lag behind.  Of course I live upstairs from two supermarkets and a drugstore, and will be able to see a bakery from my kitchen window once the leaves fall off the trees, so I can hardly complain at the moment.

[David Harding]

From the Ithaca Voice  37 people busted for fake IDs in Ithaca underage drinking initiative
From 14850.com Violations at four out of five bars checked in Ithaca

[Scersk '97]

From the Ithaca Voice  37 people busted for fake IDs in Ithaca underage drinking initiative
From 14850.com Violations at four out of five bars checked in Ithaca

Some of our finest protecting impressionable youths from the scourges of demon rum. Nothing could possibly benefit society more!

[marty]

From the Ithaca Voice  37 people busted for fake IDs in Ithaca underage drinking initiative

In a news release Friday, police said they found violations in all of those bars except Level B.

Level B!

[David Harding]

The Sun kciks off its summary of the decade with an article on "A Foodie Farewell to the Top 10 Collegetown Establishments That Have Closed in the Past Decade".

[upprdeck]

really missing the Nines Pizza this time of yr. so many xmas office parties down there over the yrs

and losing Napolis wings too has probably been better for my diet,

[David Harding]

https://ithacavoice.com/2020/01/collegetown-bagels-plans-move-to-cornells-sheldon-court/

Collegetown Bagels will move across the street to the Cornell-owned Sheldon Court where they get a 10-year lease.  Ruloff's is still up in the air.  The nominal end date for both Collegetown Bagels in their current location and for Rulloff's is June 1.  The owners are in discussion with their landlord, Student Agencies, for a one week extension to allow big parties with alumni in town for reunions.

[upprdeck]

it shows that the money is in the housing and none of the landlords really care about the experience they are creating.

you have a ready made restaurant thats been vacant on the 4 corners thats been empty for a decade and something like CTB never even thinks about moving in.  no doubt they want to knock it down and build up when that lease is done.  although i saw signs of some work around it last week.

[marty]

it shows that the money is in the housing and none of the landlords really care about the experience they are creating.

you have a ready made restaurant thats been vacant on the 4 corners thats been empty for a decade and something like CTB never even thinks about moving in.  no doubt they want to knock it down and build up when that lease is done.  although i saw signs of some work around it last week.

This based on your knowledge of what is in the minds of the owners, your experience running eating establishments and your ownership of commercial properties?

[upprdeck]

my talks with with the owners of properties in college town and the crazy money some of those have.  the buildings downtown went up and 2 places move into.  on collegetown nothing and from what i hear it will get worse soon. the rents are killing all those places

[ugarte]

worked at the next door location of collegetown bagels when i lived in sheldon court. still showed up late to work sometimes, somehow.

[Trotsky]

What monstrosity are they going to build on the Oliver's (fine, CTB) site?  20 stories?  $3k starting rent?

[David Harding]

What monstrosity are they going to build on the Oliver's (fine, CTB) site?  20 stories?  $3k starting rent?

There are a couple of elevations shown in the Ithaca Voice article from last August, along with a bunch of history.