Yet another collegetown bar bites the dust

[Trotsky]

The drinking age should return to 18. It's crazy that it is 21 in this country.

For women.  For men, raise it to 35.

[Trotsky]

The drinking age should return to 18. It's crazy that it is 21 in this country.

Yeah, it would certainly eliminate much of the "mystique" around drinking that doesn't exist in many other countries where the age is 18 or 19. This soft prohibition encourages many 17-20 year olds to overindulge in secret, less safe environments during their college years and I've never really seen the benefit in that for anyone--the students, the administration, parents, law enforcement, businesses...

If you want to eliminate the mystique simply eliminate the drinking age.  There is significantly less binge drinking in (most of) Europe.  One reason is drinking isn't considered a fetish of adulthood the way it is by teens here.

(cf. fucking)

[ugarte]

The drinking age should return to 18. It's crazy that it is 21 in this country.

Yeah, it would certainly eliminate much of the "mystique" around drinking that doesn't exist in many other countries where the age is 18 or 19. This soft prohibition encourages many 17-20 year olds to overindulge in secret, less safe environments during their college years and I've never really seen the benefit in that for anyone--the students, the administration, parents, law enforcement, businesses...

If you want to eliminate the mystique simply eliminate the drinking age.  There is significantly less binge drinking in (most of) Europe.  One reason is drinking isn't considered a fetish of adulthood the way it is by teens here.

(cf. fucking)

i don't have a strong opinion about this but binge drinking may be lower but alcoholism is higher iirc

[Trotsky]

The drinking age should return to 18. It's crazy that it is 21 in this country.

Yeah, it would certainly eliminate much of the "mystique" around drinking that doesn't exist in many other countries where the age is 18 or 19. This soft prohibition encourages many 17-20 year olds to overindulge in secret, less safe environments during their college years and I've never really seen the benefit in that for anyone--the students, the administration, parents, law enforcement, businesses...

If you want to eliminate the mystique simply eliminate the drinking age.  There is significantly less binge drinking in (most of) Europe.  One reason is drinking isn't considered a fetish of adulthood the way it is by teens here.

(cf. fucking)

i don't have a strong opinion about this but binge drinking may be lower but alcoholism is higher iirc

According to this, there appear to be four big classes for Male Stupidity:

I. 10%+ Frozen Dystopic Hell.  Examples: Russia, Hungary, Belarus, the Baltic Republics.  
II.  7.5-10% The Idiocy of the Countryside: Slovakia (REPRESENT!), Norway, Ukraine.  Surprised the Poles aren't here.
III. 5.0% - 7.5% European Amerika: UK, Finland, Sweden, US, Romania, Netherlands (that surprises me), Bosnia.  Surprised the Czechs aren't here.
IV. below 5.0% Sanity: everybody else, including Germany, France, Italy, Spain.  My god, even the Irish and the Poles. Tsk, tsk, pick it up, guys.

This suggests to me that both binge drinking and alcoholism are lower in those countries where attaining the drinking age is not a rite of passage. I would suggest the high rates of alcoholism in the main European offenders come from living in a place where you are envious of North Country weather and Mississippi governance.

[David Harding]

And another franchise, Moe's Southwest Grill down on Meadow St is gone.  https://ithacavoice.com/2022/12/moes-southwest-grill-location-closes-in-ithaca/

The Ithaca location of Moe's Southwest Grill, a popular burrito spot, has closed, leaving Tompkins County lacking a nearby option for gigantic burritos with cuttingly accurate names like "the Homewrecker."

[marty]

And another franchise, Moe's Southwest Grill down on Meadow St is gone.  https://ithacavoice.com/2022/12/moes-southwest-grill-location-closes-in-ithaca/

The Ithaca location of Moe's Southwest Grill, a popular burrito spot, has closed, leaving Tompkins County lacking a nearby option for gigantic burritos with cuttingly accurate names like "the Homewrecker."

Sub headline: Collective A1C in Ithaca About to Drop.

[upprdeck]

it was always a tougher spot than say Chipotle.  Hasnt been all that busy down there in a while..

Reminds me had a chicago friend send some deep dish from Lou Malnatis for xmas..  

for a frozen pizza gift not too bad, but why is no one in town doing a deep dish any more with Ninos gone?

[George64]

Don't visit Ithaca during intersession!  We're here because my dog is having CCL (similar to the ACL in people) surgery at Cornell.  Boatyard Grill closed, Moosewood closed, Simeon's closed, Agava closed . . . Willard Straight?  We'll find out soon.

BTW, we're staying at Best Western, as are the women's hockey and other CU teams, because the dorms are closed.  LGR, but please be quiet at night!
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[billhoward]

Now you've tipped off the stalkers.

The whole team, or the ones not living off campus?

[George64]

The whole team, or the ones not living off campus?

Don't know.  Not wanting to appear like a lecherous old man, I merely asked if they were getting ready to leave for an away game, and a player told me they were playing at home this weekend and staying at the BW over intersession.  There were about a dozen at breakfast.  

The men's swimming and diving team was there also and several were celebrating a birthday in the room next to ours at 11!  They quieted down and stayed quiet after this octogenarian went to their door.  My dog barked at 7:30 this morning and probably woke them.  Turnaround is fair play.

[billhoward]

They quieted down and stayed quiet after this octogenarian went to their door.  My dog barked at 7:30 this morning and probably woke them.  Turnaround is fair play.

Please tell me you had all the buttons buttoned on your jammies when you went to their door. Sometimes those who need several nighttime trips to the bathroom forget.

We are fortunate to have a pair of classmates who've repatriated to Ithaca, and who have houses with spare bedrooms. That is so very nice. That last time we paid for lodgings in Ithaca was reunion, because we still enjoy the dorm experience. For a weekend.

[Iceberg]

I suppose because of rule that those students can't stay in the dorms, because I imagine the administration will need to have RA's present and then pay for maintenance staff labor. I always thought there were a few students allowed to stay over the winter break but I guess not

[dag14]

Dorms are closed over break.  Most of the displaced athletes are freshmen. Sometimes they bunk with upperclassmen/women in off campus housing but if that is not an option, they are put up in hotels.  I used to decamp to Florida over intercession and for a number of years, freshmen hockey players took over my house.  Sometimes men, sometimes women.  It was always in pretty good shape when I got home.

[George64]

Don't visit Ithaca during intersession!  We're here because my dog is having CCL (similar to the ACL in people) surgery at Cornell.  Boatyard Grill closed, Moosewood closed, Simeon's closed, Agava closed . . . Willard Straight?  We'll find out soon.

I finally resorted to a Google search for Ithaca restaurants that were open and found Gola Osteria. It's very good, but good luck finding it.  It's located within the new apartment complex on South Quarry Street in the old Ithaca City Hospital.  As uninviting as that sounds, it's worth the effort.
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[billhoward]

This is Lego blocks meets 1950s delta-wing fighter. Or Iran's latest drone, 3D printed, what you see is draft mode.