Basketball 2015-16

[CAS]

So you don't think coaches need to run a competitive program?  As long as there is no scandal, they should have lifetime employment?

[Ken711]

Not surprisingly, Cornell gets destroyed by Yale. Yale can clinch with a win against Columbia tomorrow.

Also I can definitely see Courtney getting fired now but I don't think it will happen and I don't exactly want it to.

He certainly deserves to be fired.

[upprdeck]

if people on campus were held to the same standard as a coach you would have 90% of them fired now.

[marty]

if people on campus were held to the same standard as a coach you would have 90% of them fired now.

If Harvard undergrads performed at the level of our basketball program. .....
they'd graduate with honors.
Eh?

[billhoward]

9 consecutive Ivy losses. Ugarte, what would it take for you to think a change should be made?

A scandal, tbh. It's not like I'm happy with the results I just don't remember the last time we fired our basketball coach.

Cornell fired basketball coach Tony Coma in the early '70s. Coma lost the support of black and then white players; he had been brought in from a heavily black college in hopes he could restore peace with black players on the team. He had drinking issues. The coaches committed minor recruiting violations, to wit paying application fees for prospective players. And it all made Sports Illustrated (which Coma said coming into the program was one of his goals) under the headline "Low in Cayuga's Waters." The real issue was Cornell didn't do much research into his background at his previous stop, Cheyney State (PA). Frank Dolson, sports editor of the Philadelphia Inquirer at the time, said afterwards people in the media who knew him were surprised that Cornell didn't vet more thoroughly. (Coma finished his career coaching girls HS basketball and passed on 20 years ago at 63, so R.I.P.)

Recall the Coma problems came late in the era of athletic director/athletic dean and Olympian Bob Kane '36, a dapper gentleman, a big macher in the US Olympic committee, and well liked by alumni but perhaps not equipped to handle a different era of athletes post-1960s.


What we have in 2016 is a coach who hasn't succeeded in the W column. Far cry from a program that wasn't under control.

[Ken711]

Cornell beats Brown 75-71 ends the season in a tie for last place in the Ivy League with Brown.

[ugarte]

Cornell beats Brown 75-71 ends the season in a tie for last place in the Ivy League with Brown.

I believe you mean a tie for 7th.

[Ken711]

Cornell beats Brown 75-71 ends the season in a tie for last place in the Ivy League with Brown.

I believe you mean a tie for 7th.

Cellar dwellers? ::thud::

[shasta1]

Well, Bill was arrested for DWI in Syracuse driving back from a stripper club:) years ago.

[Ken711]

http://nypost.com/2016/03/09/cornell-basketball-player-arrested-for-rape/

Courtney is good as gone now.

[Iceberg]

Speaking of arrests...



Cornell Basketball Player Xavier Eaglin '19 Arrested on Rape Charges

[Chris '03]

http://nypost.com/2016/03/09/cornell-basketball-player-arrested-for-rape/

Courtney is good as gone now.

Wishful thinking.

[Trotsky]

http://nypost.com/2016/03/09/cornell-basketball-player-arrested-for-rape/

Courtney is good as gone now.

A player being arrested does not necessarily equal loss of institutional control.  Most obviously, the guy may be innocent.

[Ken711]

http://nypost.com/2016/03/09/cornell-basketball-player-arrested-for-rape/

Courtney is good as gone now.

A player being arrested does not necessarily equal loss of institutional control.  Most obviously, the guy may be innocent.

His record alone is more than justification for letting him go.  This program needs a fresh new start more than ever now.

[ugarte]

http://nypost.com/2016/03/09/cornell-basketball-player-arrested-for-rape/

Courtney is good as gone now.

A player being arrested does not necessarily equal loss of institutional control.  Most obviously, the guy may be innocent.

His record alone is more than justification for letting him go.  This program needs a fresh new start more than ever now.

That may be true - you've certainly said as much - but using a rape charge against a player - with no reason to believe that Courtney had any reason to suspect this defect of character - is unfair. Even cheap. If - and I've never seen anything to suggest this - there had been prior accusations and Courtney helped sweep them under the rug, I'd pack up his office myself.