Basketball 2015-16

Started by billhoward, October 28, 2015, 11:22:01 AM

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shasta1

Hmmmm....let's see how this plays out.  The athletic department has had several issues with sexual assault over the years but only 2 made the press and one was Pete Mesko (currently in prison). Very glad the university has a new policy to  address these issues and eliminate the department from intervening...or anyone but proper officials for that matter.  No one wants bad press but hopefully coverage of such issues will result in men thinking before assault.

shasta1

Oh...Yale is also going through a similar issue.

scoop85

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Courtney is good as gone now.

A player being arrested does not necessarily equal loss of institutional control.  Most obviously, the guy may be innocent.

His record alone is more than justification for letting him go.  This program needs a fresh new start more than ever now.

I agree Courtney needs to be gone, but only because of his dismal performance as coach, and not because one of his players has been arrested.

Trotsky

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Quote from: Ken711http://nypost.com/2016/03/09/cornell-basketball-player-arrested-for-rape/

Courtney is good as gone now.

A player being arrested does not necessarily equal loss of institutional control.  Most obviously, the guy may be innocent.

His record alone is more than justification for letting him go.  This program needs a fresh new start more than ever now.
I've got no argument with you re: his record.  I'm just saying an accusation shouldn't factor into the equation at all, and even a conviction only factors in if there's reason to believe the program was negligent (or god forbid obstructionist) in its response.

Ken711

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Quote from: Ken711http://nypost.com/2016/03/09/cornell-basketball-player-arrested-for-rape/

Courtney is good as gone now.

A player being arrested does not necessarily equal loss of institutional control.  Most obviously, the guy may be innocent.

His record alone is more than justification for letting him go.  This program needs a fresh new start more than ever now.
I've got no argument with you re: his record.  I'm just saying an accusation shouldn't factor into the equation at all, and even a conviction only factors in if there's reason to believe the program was negligent (or god forbid obstructionist) in its response.

Agreed.

CAS

Given no change has been made to date, I'm guessing Courtney (27-57 in Ivies) will return for his 7th year as coach.  Running a competitive program is not a necessity in Andy's athletic dep't.

Swampy

Quote from: Ken711http://nypost.com/2016/03/09/cornell-basketball-player-arrested-for-rape/

Courtney is good as gone now.

Not at all a sure thing. This is only one player accused of rape.

It probably would have to be something much worse, like upperclassmen encouraging freshmen on the team to drink beer, to justify AN firing a coach.

underskill

The Score sent out an alert that he's fired.

scoop85

Quote from: underskillThe Score sent out an alert that he's fired.

Must've been because of the email I sent to the Noel just this morning expressing my opinion that the coach needed to go. ;-)

Seriously, it's sad to see anyone lose a job, especially a person as well-liked as Courtney was.  But if you're in the coaching business, you do need to win at least a bit; Courtney never showed any signs of turning things around.

ugarte

Well, not renewed. This makes sense to me. I can see searching for another guy but eating the cost of any remaining years would have been a mistake (or at least against type for the administration).

I assume Courtney knew the writing was on the wall when he wasn't offered an extension after last year (nor would I say he earned it).

shasta1

Finally a good decision.  Now let's see him hire a great coach!

KenP

Congratulations to Yale on their first Tournament victory.  No question here... I guarantee a victory for the Blue-And-White on Saturday..... ::cheer::  ::wtf::

Trotsky

Yale making a late run on Duke in the Upper Class Twit of the Year Bowl.

shasta1

The administration should consider recruiting Zach Spiker as the next head coach.  He was instrumental if not the key recruiter of the Foote, Dale, Whitman era.  As a recruiter he is relentless and has proven to have solid bench coaching skills....something Courtney could not ever improve upon.  Noel hired Courtney because he had solid resume as an assistant. Charisma can only take a team so far.

ugarte

Quote from: shasta1The administration should consider recruiting Zach Spiker as the next head coach.  He was instrumental if not the key recruiter of the Foote, Dale, Whitman era.  As a recruiter he is relentless and has proven to have solid bench coaching skills....something Courtney could not ever improve upon.  Noel hired Courtney because he had solid resume as an assistant. Charisma can only take a team so far.
I think Spiker getting away a year before Donahue left was a bummer for the administration. He'd have been a no-brainer to step in if the Army job didn't open up when it did. Who knows if he'd want to leave that gig; Army is frequently a stepping stone job (Bob Knight and Coach K come to mind) and I'm not sure Cornell is a big enough step up.