cornell - quin sat night

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Chris '03

It was near the very end of the game. It prompted the announcer to make a comment about Cornell crying for a replay I think. They mentioned that the (overhead) replay shown in the building just the proved it was a goal to them.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

andyw2100

Quote from: Chris '03It was near the very end of the game. It prompted the announcer to make a comment about Cornell crying for a replay I think. They mentioned that the (overhead) replay shown in the building just the proved it was a goal to them.

At some point--either then or earlier, when they were talking about Schafer asking for a review--the announcers also said something about how Schafer must have been complaining about the guy running into Gillam --AFTER-- the goal was scored.

Chris '03

Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Chris '03It was near the very end of the game. It prompted the announcer to make a comment about Cornell crying for a replay I think. They mentioned that the (overhead) replay shown in the building just the proved it was a goal to them.

At some point--either then or earlier, when they were talking about Schafer asking for a review--the announcers also said something about how Schafer must have been complaining about the guy running into Gillam --AFTER-- the goal was scored.

Go to the 2:39 mark of the replay linked up thread.  That's when they show the overhead replay.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

marty

Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: dwakelinFirst, I think we have a regit goalie in Mitch. He is keeping  us in games.
We don't get offense minded recruits because of the system. Third in the country presently in team  defense and dead last in offense.
Outshot 19-1 in last period is ridiculous. Stats are for losers usually but these don't lie.
I am a Shafer fan but this style of hockey is outdated especially with current rule changes.
The question is, if you were a top recruit with professional aspirations, why would you come to Cornell to play.
Not panic time yet but there could be a lot of crickets at Lynah if this continues.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Or repeating the same quote. ..
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

flyersgolf

IMHO it does not matter who centers Lowry and McCarron, saw that first hand at Princeton.  Those two are grinders who would rather jam the puck into the net than beat the goalie with a shot.  Not a lot of give and go.  Cycle, jam and cram is more like it.  Weidner, Kubiak and Bardreau centered those two and things really did not change much depnding on who centered them, unfortunatrely they are a very, very good college checking wingers.  At Princeton it looked like Fiegl and Freschi had good chemistry, yet did not play together at Quinnipiac. Schafer kept line combinations pretty consistent throughout Q game and played Anderson more on D, unlike the musical chairs line combinations at Princeton.  I would like to Yates on the power play, he has the hands and sense of a scorer.  Like I said in the Princeton recap, Yates needs to improve his fitness and things will happen for this kid.  I also agree with what many have said, Schafer has opend things up. the D really pushes the play and in the defensive zone the system is still there.  The effrort is there, the hustle is there, this is one of the best skating Cornell teams I have seen from top to bottom.  They are not going to be out skated by anyone.  Generating better scoring chances is coaching, it is also a mindset, Shafer was no Lodboa as a player and Topher Scott learned from Schafer.  I think it is time to hire someone outside the traditional Cornell way of doing things.  Someone with an offensive mindset to counterbalnce Schafers excellent defensive system.    Better to have these issues now than at the end of the season.
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Trotsky

From the latter link, the headline:

"Photo Gallery: Cornell Coach Mike Schafer Insights Post Game Fracas"

No comment.

Jim Hyla

The problem with all of this is, when you lose, it just sounds like sour grapes,  even if you're right. I can see where Schafer would be upset with someone thinking that Bardreau was embellishing the hit.  Put that on top of the prior playoff game, where he thought Q was piling on, and that the officials would not review the winning goal, you get some harsh words.  It would've been better if he had kept his cool and just stated the facts, but oh well.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Scersk '97

I had a great angle on the hit. It was an obvious five and game misconduct; a DQ would've been the wrong call.

Frankly, hearing that Pecknold was calling for an embellishment makes me pissed off. Every coach in the league knows what happened with Bardreau. Schafer's completely right that his response sends the wrong message to his team, that there was nothing wrong with Peca's hit. It was five; it's going to be called every time. You can break someone's neck that way, I hear.

The germane part of the interview for the future: "If it was his kid that went into the boards, I think I'd be a little frickin' concerned! Maybe not anymore..."

Ummm... yikes. Not the words you want to hear coming out of Schafer's mouth. Let's just hope that playoff seeding is on everybody's minds on February 6th.

Cop at Lynah

Maybe, just maybe, this will be a turning point in the early season. Coach did/said what he thought was appropriate given the situation, may cost him a fine/suspension but his emotions tell a lot.  My thoughts are that the team will rally and have his back, with or without him on the bench this weekend.

ithacat

That may be true, but I'm hoping Cornell suspends him before the ECAC gets involved. A coach should not speak in such a way and get away with it. He also said the players get their cues from the coaches -- wonder how many parents want their kids handling adversity in such a way? Maybe scoring while on a 5x3 or on an extended PP would have made for a more appropriate response. If he doesn't like Rand how about building a system that beats his.

scoop85

Quote from: ithacatThat may be true, but I'm hoping Cornell suspends him before the ECAC gets involved. A coach should not speak in such a way and get away with it. He also said the players get their cues from the coaches -- wonder how many parents want their kids handling adversity in such a way? Maybe scoring while on a 5x3 or on an extended PP would have made for a more appropriate response. If he doesn't like Rand how about building a system that beats his.

Yeah, my thoughts as well. I certainly understand why he said what he said, but the choice of words really should have been used (if at all) behind close doors rather than at a press conference.  I think Cornell needs to get ahead of this and have him sit out a game or two.

MattS

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: ithacatThat may be true, but I'm hoping Cornell suspends him before the ECAC gets involved. A coach should not speak in such a way and get away with it. He also said the players get their cues from the coaches -- wonder how many parents want their kids handling adversity in such a way? Maybe scoring while on a 5x3 or on an extended PP would have made for a more appropriate response. If he doesn't like Rand how about building a system that beats his.

Yeah, my thoughts as well. I certainly understand why he said what he said, but the choice of words really should have been used (if at all) behind close doors rather than at a press conference.  I think Cornell needs to get ahead of this and have him sit out a game or two.

I agree. I think Schafer should sit for a game. My issue is with his choice of language and the animosity that comes across by his comments, not necessarily the sentiment of the comments.

Willie

I disagee with sitting Coach.  If Cornell needs to council Coach in private and is satisfied with future behaviour, no sitting for a game is necessary.  

However, sitting non-producing forwards in favor of the next guy given a chance to step up... now that's an idea!

Cheerio.