cornell - quin sat night

[Dafatone]

Just a reminder.  We've lost three games by one goal.  To me, that says bad luck.  Yes, we can't score, but our offense is about as bad as our defense is good.  A couple bounces the other way and we're at .500.

And we're playing without Joakim Ryan.

[CAS]

Coach was just defending his player.  It's good to finally see some passion.  Now, if we could just score a goal, or two...

[Chris '03]

USCHO reporting coach suspended for Friday night by the league.

[dbilmes]

I'm not defending Schafer's use of a vulgarity in the press conference, but it's important to put his outburst in context. I've seen almost every game Cornell has played at Quinnipiac since it joined the ECAC, as well as a few other Q games. Pecknold definitely encourages a "goon" mentality from his players, and this has been building up. A few years ago, one of Cornell's key forwards, Scali, suffered a major injury while playing at Quinnipiac. And of course there was the 10-0 rout in the playoffs two years ago when Pecknold still had his first-unit powerplay on the ice against our backup goalie -- who hadn't played all season -- late in the second period. I was sitting right next to the boards where Pecca ran into Bardreau, and we knew right away that it was a terrible hit and were relieved that Cole wasn't seriously hurt. There's been bad blood between Schafer and Pecknold for years, and this just adds fuel to the fire.

[Beeeej]

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/11/10_ecac_suspends_cornells_schafer.php

[Dafatone]

Is it hypocritical to think both that Schafer was right to make those comments and that he should be suspended?

[ithacat]

Coach was just defending his player.  It's good to finally see some passion.  Now, if we could just score a goal, or two...

I have no doubt he was defending his player. That's no excuse for saying what he said. He could have shown the same protection and passion without resorting to that language.

[KeithK]

Is it hypocritical to think both that Schafer was right to make those comments and that he should be suspended?

Not at all.

[Jim Hyla]

Well, to look through a relatively independent eye on the event, here's what Ken Schott has to say. The meat of his column is:

Was Schafer right in calling Pecknold something nasty? Probably not. Was he expressing what some of the league's coaches think privately? I think so.

Ever since the Bobcats joined the ECACH in the 2005-06 season, they have been a brash, very confident (some would call it cocky) team. They take their lead from Pecknold. He is very happy when his team wins. But when the team loses, he will sometimes complain and not give the give the opposition credit.

Interesting.

[sah67]

Schafer has been suspended 1 game by the ECAC, and thus he'll be out for Clarkson on Friday, according to a update by Schott:
http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/nov/10/college-hockey-slap-schotts-feuding-coaches/

[upprdeck]

here is an interesting thing. all the quinipiac videos are still on line except for the cornell one that actually shows the overheadview..  if you slow down the one video you can see the player was in the crease, contact is hard to tell, but the overhead view showed contact but you couldnt slow it down in real time..

whas the rule on being in the crease now in college hockey? he was in the crease before the goal but is that enough without contact?

still hard to see how they couldnt get the replay

by rule physical or visual prevention of defending the goal is the rule. so a player standing next to the goalie in the crease while a shot takes place would seem to meet the criteria.  contact would, but even lack of contact in this case..

my question would be this , it was reviewable and cornell could request it and they  have to review it if we want them to.  so why didnt we or they do so? wouldnt that have been worth a TO?


"A team may use its timeout for the purpose of reviewing situations that
are in the video replay criteria or a potentially non-detected goal.
If the
challenge is successful, the team retains its timeout. This timeout policy
applies to any video replay procedure used."

[Chris '03]

Here's the best I could get. It's at 2:39:12 of the broadcast here: http://quinnipiacbobcats.com/sports/mice/2014-15/mice_vs_cornell_nov_8_2014

The puck is just leaving the shooter's stick (under the play button) but has not gone in yet. Gillam is just a little obstructed.

[Chris '03]

And here's a split second earlier with the puck still on shooter's tape and a stick draped over Gillam's arms:

[Jim Hyla]

And here's a split second earlier with the puck still on shooter's tape and a stick draped over Gillam's arms:

Thanks, I didn't realize that it was shown after play resummed, and not when they were showing the other replays. If you follow the play after the shot, you can se that it looks like Gillam has been pushed by the Q player. I hope the refs get to see this. At the very least it shows it should have been reviewed. However, as I've said before, I wonder if the refs are getting to the point that they just disregard Schafer, and maybe even unconsciously stick it to him.

[upprdeck]

thats how i recalled watching it live but this view at best shows it should have been replayed.  not sure how it wouldnt have been overturned under almost any guidlelines except as you say the refs didnt want to deal with the coach.