Recruits 2014

Started by Trotsky, February 11, 2014, 08:58:13 AM

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Trotsky

Boo.

We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way.  :-(

billhoward

Pete Shier is a loyal Cornell alum. It may be there's something special about Union ... or for his son. It may be the parents' money, but it's the student's life.

Chris '03

Quote from: TrotskyBoo.

We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way.  :-(

I think you're already on record re: this commitment: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,190403,190662#msg-190662
:-)
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Trotsky

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: TrotskyBoo.

We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way.  :-(

I think you're already on record re: this commitment: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,190403,190662#msg-190662
:-)
Neither of those were top prospects.

When a legacy goes somewhere else because we didn't offer, that's fine.  When we offer but he still goes somewhere else, that means we lost the competition for a player who started out with every reason to come to Cornell.  That's bad.

Obviously there could be a million reasons to not choose your star father's school -- establish your own identity, etc.  But OTOH, have we ever had a guy whose father was a star on another team?

Harvard has had, what, 3 generations of Cavanaughs?  4?  That is a good story, aesthetically pleasing, and it would be great if we would have the same.  

I'm just jealous.

Dafatone

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: TrotskyBoo.

We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way.  :-(

I think you're already on record re: this commitment: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,190403,190662#msg-190662
:-)
Neither of those were top prospects.

When a legacy goes somewhere else because we didn't offer, that's fine.  When we offer but he still goes somewhere else, that means we lost the competition for a player who started out with every reason to come to Cornell.  That's bad.

Obviously there could be a million reasons to not choose your star father's school -- establish your own identity, etc.  But OTOH, have we ever had a guy whose father was a star on another team?

Harvard has had, what, 3 generations of Cavanaughs?  4?  That is a good story, aesthetically pleasing, and it would be great if we would have the same.  

I'm just jealous.

For what it's worth, I'd have hated to go to my dad's school when I was 18.  Call it rebellion, branching out, establishing my own identity, or whatever.  I'd have been annoyed.

Similarly, I'm shocked when a player (or anyone, really) from Ithaca goes to Cornell.

KeithK

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: TrotskyBoo.

We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way.  :-(

I think you're already on record re: this commitment: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,190403,190662#msg-190662
:-)
Neither of those were top prospects.

When a legacy goes somewhere else because we didn't offer, that's fine.  When we offer but he still goes somewhere else, that means we lost the competition for a player who started out with every reason to come to Cornell.  That's bad.

Obviously there could be a million reasons to not choose your star father's school -- establish your own identity, etc.  But OTOH, have we ever had a guy whose father was a star on another team?

Harvard has had, what, 3 generations of Cavanaughs?  4?  That is a good story, aesthetically pleasing, and it would be great if we would have the same.  

I'm just jealous.

For what it's worth, I'd have hated to go to my dad's school when I was 18.  Call it rebellion, branching out, establishing my own identity, or whatever.  I'd have been annoyed.

Similarly, I'm shocked when a player (or anyone, really) from Ithaca goes to Cornell.
Everyone's different I guess.  As much as I love NYC I didn't want to go to school there (especially after my dad suggested going to Columbia and living at home).  But then I have two cousins who went to schools about an hour from home and are seemingly home every weekend.

Trotsky

Quote from: DafatoneFor what it's worth, I'd have hated to go to my dad's school when I was 18.
Me too, but I also wasn't looking to build an NHL career.  And I may be wrong, but my impression is kids who are reflexively rebellious in that way (like us) tend not to follow their parent's sport.  They get degrees in playwriting or some such...  ;)

pfibiger

Quote from: TrotskyNeither of those were top prospects.

When a legacy goes somewhere else because we didn't offer, that's fine.  When we offer but he still goes somewhere else, that means we lost the competition for a player who started out with every reason to come to Cornell.  That's bad.

Obviously there could be a million reasons to not choose your star father's school -- establish your own identity, etc.  But OTOH, have we ever had a guy whose father was a star on another team?

Harvard has had, what, 3 generations of Cavanaughs?  4?  That is a good story, aesthetically pleasing, and it would be great if we would have the same.  

I'm just jealous.

Different permutations of Father/Son recruiting and misses. This list is by no means exhaustive, it was just off the top of my head plus some cursory looking:

CU hockey players whose fathers played elsewhere:
Mitch Carefoot (Denver)
Blake Gallagher (SLU)

College hockey players whose fathers played at Cornell:
Mark Jankowski (Providence)
Will Weber (Miami)
Paul Geiger (Clarkson)
Mike Ambrosia (Princeton)
Mark Mitera (Michigan)
Dan Peace (RPI)
Matt Brush (Princeton)

Older brother played at CU, player went elsewhere:
Nik Pokulok (Clarkson)

Older brother played elsewhere, player went to CU:
Evan Barlow (Harvard)
Mitch Gillam (Dartmouth)
Sean Whitney (BU)
Bob Kinasewich (Harvard)
Jeff Kubiak (Bentley)
Phil Fibiger '01
http://www.fibiger.org

jkahn

Quote from: pfibigerOlder brother played elsewhere, player went to CU:
Evan Barlow (Harvard)
Mitch Gillam (Dartmouth)
Sean Whitney (BU)

a couple of others I can quickly think of:
Bob Kinasewich '67 (Harvard)
Jeff Kubiak '17 (Bentley)

hard to believe they're a half century apart.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

dag14

I believe that Craig Brush '72 son played elsewhere -- maybe Princeton?  And Jim Gibson's son was a star lax player at Yale.

ursusminor

Dave Peace's son Dan played at RPI. I doubt that Cornell was interested.

marty

Quote from: ursusminorDave Peace's son Dan played at RPI. I doubt that Cornell was interested.

That's what Dave told me. On the other hand his daughter did her undergrad work at Cornell and was headed to the University of Michigan for her law degree. As little as I became acquainted with the Peace children, I felt fortunate to make their acquaintance.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Josh '99

Quote from: dag14I believe that Craig Brush '72 son played elsewhere -- maybe Princeton?  And Jim Gibson's son was a star lax player at Yale.
There's a Matt Brush who played for Princeton and subsequently for the Florida Everblades.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

gomestar

Quote from: pfibigerOlder brother played at CU, player went elsewhere:
Nik Pokulok (Clarkson)

Tom Hilbrich @ Quinnipiac



also prob. not in the same breath, but the young McCarron who bolted D1 all together

ithacat

You could add Kevin Shier to the list.

Ryan Johnston (Colgate), Jacob/Rebecca/Sarah played at Cornell.
Jeff Skinner (OHL), sister Andrea played at Cornell.