CU @ Colgate 2/8/14

Started by Trotsky, February 03, 2014, 04:03:20 PM

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Trotsky

So we're all sure it's Saturday, not Friday, right?

Making this already important game even moreso, Colgate is one of just three common opponents we have with both Minnesota (RPI, UNH) and Ferris (RPI, SLU).

ugarte

Quote from: TrotskySo we're all sure it's Saturday, not Friday, right?

Making this already important game even moreso, Colgate is one of just three common opponents we have with both Minnesota (RPI, UNH) and Ferris (RPI, SLU).
But there

Minnesota is 2-0-1 against those teams; we're 1-0-2.
Ferris is 3-3; we're 1-0-3.

We can win the Ferris comparison outright but is Minnesota beyond our grasp? Best we can do is 3-0-2.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: TrotskySo we're all sure it's Saturday, not Friday, right?

Making this already important game even moreso, Colgate is one of just three common opponents we have with both Minnesota (RPI, UNH) and Ferris (RPI, SLU).
But there

Minnesota is 2-0-1 against those teams; we're 1-0-2.
Ferris is 3-3; we're 1-0-3.

We can win the Ferris comparison outright but is Minnesota beyond our grasp? Best we can do is 3-0-2.

We also have the ECAC tourney.

ugarte

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: TrotskySo we're all sure it's Saturday, not Friday, right?

Making this already important game even moreso, Colgate is one of just three common opponents we have with both Minnesota (RPI, UNH) and Ferris (RPI, SLU).
But there

Minnesota is 2-0-1 against those teams; we're 1-0-2.
Ferris is 3-3; we're 1-0-3.

We can win the Ferris comparison outright but is Minnesota beyond our grasp? Best we can do is 3-0-2.

We also have the ECAC tourney.
Good point.

dsk1

RPI will be the only comparison that matters with Minnesota and Ferris. . .record against common opponents is actually meaningless for these comparisons.  Since TUC has been eliminated, there are only three comparisons.  For teams that do not have head-to-head match-ups there are only two (RPI and Common Opponents).  Since RPI is the tie breaker, it is the only comparison that matters.  This will be the case in all comparisons in which there are not head-to-head match-ups.

Dafatone

Quote from: dsk1RPI will be the only comparison that matters with Minnesota and Ferris. . .record against common opponents is actually meaningless for these comparisons.  Since TUC has been eliminated, there are only three comparisons.  For teams that do not have head-to-head match-ups there are only two (RPI and Common Opponents).  Since RPI is the tie breaker, it is the only comparison that matters.  This will be the case in all comparisons in which there are not head-to-head match-ups.

...so they managed to make common opponents completely meaningless for most comparisons?  Weird.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: dsk1RPI will be the only comparison that matters with Minnesota and Ferris. . .record against common opponents is actually meaningless for these comparisons.  Since TUC has been eliminated, there are only three comparisons.  For teams that do not have head-to-head match-ups there are only two (RPI and Common Opponents).  Since RPI is the tie breaker, it is the only comparison that matters.  This will be the case in all comparisons in which there are not head-to-head match-ups.

...so they managed to make common opponents completely meaningless for most comparisons?  Weird.
A cynic might suggest they've added all sorts of esoteric tweaks, subtleties, corrections, adjustments, etc., in a way that has managed to get the seedings back to where they simply mimic RPI.::pissed::
Al DeFlorio '65

ugarte

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: dsk1RPI will be the only comparison that matters with Minnesota and Ferris. . .record against common opponents is actually meaningless for these comparisons.  Since TUC has been eliminated, there are only three comparisons.  For teams that do not have head-to-head match-ups there are only two (RPI and Common Opponents).  Since RPI is the tie breaker, it is the only comparison that matters.  This will be the case in all comparisons in which there are not head-to-head match-ups.

...so they managed to make common opponents completely meaningless for most comparisons?  Weird.
A cynic might suggest they've added all sorts of esoteric tweaks, subtleties, corrections, adjustments, etc., in a way that has managed to get the seedings back to where they simply mimic RPI.::pissed::
I'm picturing the meeting
"So, in cases where the team with the lower RPI won the head-to-head matchup, Common Opponents will be the tiebreaker. All in favor?"
"AYE!"
"Opposed?"
"..."
"The motion carries. Now we'll move on to whether Iles is the answer or it's the system..."

Dafatone

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: dsk1RPI will be the only comparison that matters with Minnesota and Ferris. . .record against common opponents is actually meaningless for these comparisons.  Since TUC has been eliminated, there are only three comparisons.  For teams that do not have head-to-head match-ups there are only two (RPI and Common Opponents).  Since RPI is the tie breaker, it is the only comparison that matters.  This will be the case in all comparisons in which there are not head-to-head match-ups.

...so they managed to make common opponents completely meaningless for most comparisons?  Weird.
A cynic might suggest they've added all sorts of esoteric tweaks, subtleties, corrections, adjustments, etc., in a way that has managed to get the seedings back to where they simply mimic RPI.::pissed::
I'm picturing the meeting
"So, in cases where the team with the lower RPI won the head-to-head matchup, Common Opponents will be the tiebreaker. All in favor?"
"AYE!"
"Opposed?"
"..."
"The motion carries. Now we'll move on to whether Iles is the answer or it's the system..."

The shame of it is that we have a really good TUC record this year.  With UNO just over the .5000 RPI line and SLU just under it, we're at 8-3-3.  I think.

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaUSCHO article on our balanced scoring.
As a nit, the lull wasn't the "second half of last season," it was the middle third.

We actually played quite well in the final third, going 7-3-1 including the final two losses at Q.

gomestar

the good news about tonight is that I didn't have to pay any money to see this effort

upprdeck


Trotsky

The good news is we haven't played like flaming garbage since game 2 of the Quinnipiac QF.

Actually, the other good news is the game where we got fucked over by the refs did not cost us any points, since that effort would have lost against Huntsville.

It happens.  If we play well next weekend then going 2-1 on the killer road trip will look great.

ScrewBU

Maybe if Schafer spent some time teaching his players how to kill a penalty and coaching them instead of screaming at the refs, this type of escalation and out of control spiraling would stop happening?  But he won't change, and it won't change, and the team will do the same thing they do every year, only slightly worse. The long meaningless winning streaks, the "nationally ranked" squad by coaches that look at box scores and don't watch them play, a middle finish in the ECAC, being on the bubble for the tourney, never making it past the first or second game.  Same old, same old.  It's just never going to change.  He has to go.  He just has to go.