CU @ Colgate 2/8/14

Started by Trotsky, February 03, 2014, 04:03:20 PM

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Jordan 04

"The long meaningless winning streaks"

Interesting concept.

Trotsky

And here I thought McCarron's penalty would be the dumbest thing we'd see tonight.

marty

As I've said before. Where's Facetimer when you need him?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

sah67

Quote from: Jordan 04"The long meaningless winning streaks"

Interesting concept.

I think it's something like a "long meaningless shutout streak", or a "long meaningless scoring streak".

Jim Hyla

Long meaningless win streaks are very important. They mean we don't have to see long meaningless posts for long meaningless times. Here's hoping for another long meaningless win streak, so we don't have to see long meaningless posts again.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Towerroad

Let's be clear about the last "winning streak" it is more properly characterized as a "not losing streak" before last night we had not lost the previous 10 games going 6-0-4.

I am ok with this, it is far better than some of the alternatives, however, it is hard to really charaterize it as a winning streak. We have had 1 regular seaon 4-0-0 winning streak and 3 3-0-0 streaks.

By comparison Union, which currently leads the ECAC has had 1 9-0-0 streak 1 4-0-0 streak and 1 3-0-0 streak so far. Q which is currently ranked #2 in the ECAC has had 1 9-0-0 streak and a 12-0-1 not losing streak

Trotsky

Quote from: TowerroadLet's be clear about the last "winning streak" it is more properly characterized as a "not losing streak" before last night we had not lost the previous 10 games going 6-0-4
That's why Zeus created winning percentages.  At the moment ours are ECAC .625 (tied 4th in conference) and NCAA .659 (tied 8th in the nation).  Those are solid numbers.

For people who really like to think in W-L, take each pair of ties and convert them to 1-1-0.  That would make us 10-6-0 / 14-7-1.

Here is the historical point swing for seeds.  The projected final points by today's percentages:

35.7 Uni
31.6 Qpc
28.9 Col
27.5 Clk
27.5 Cor

Last night's loss was embarrassing and it hurt in the standings, especially since it gave Colgate the tiebreaker.  It was not a harbinger of the end of civilization.  All it did was end any reasonable shot at the RS title.  The race for 4th is still very much in our hands.

26 Uni: @Cor @Col  Clk  SLU @Yal @Brn
23 Qpc: @Yal @Brn  Cor  Col @SLU @Clk
21 Col:  RPI  Uni @Prn @Qpc  Hvd  Drt
20 Clk:  Hvd  Drt @Uni @RPI  Prn  Qpc
20 Cor:  Uni  RPI @Qpc @Prn  Drt  Hvd

Towerroad

We will find out what the team is made of in the next 2 weeks.

redice

Quote from: TowerroadWe will find out what the team is made of in the next 2 weeks.

After watching the third period last evening, I'm concerned.    They clearly lost their composure.   Yes, the officials were putting the screws to them.   But, the good teams have to stay composed during those times.    Schafer's last few teams do not seem to possess that mental toughness.    That's part of the discipline that Schafer is either no longer recruiting or no longer demanding of his players or both.    

The product on the ice shows it.
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

BearLover

It seems almost every game, even the ones Cornell wins, there are extremely questionable calls from the refs.

redice

Quote from: BearLoverIt seems almost every game, even the ones Cornell wins, there are extremely questionable calls from the refs.

Agreed.    Alll the more reason that this team should be conditioned to expect it, accept it, and move past it.  To do otherwise hurts their chances for success.

One only need to look back at the 2003 Frozen Four to see how damaging that can be.   The refs disallowed a goal for us (for a high stick).  The team let down, UNH jumped on us.   Season over.   Most blame the refs.   I think the blame rests with the players who let down for that short period right after the high-stick call.   Focus, focus, focus......    They took their eyes off the ball (puck in this case).

That's not much different than the third period @Colgate last evening.   We lost focus; Colgate steamrolled us.   I give the Raiders all the credit in the world for smelling the blood.   Yes, the refs were bad.   But, they weren't passing/shooting the puck.
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Jim Hyla

Quote from: redice
Quote from: TowerroadWe will find out what the team is made of in the next 2 weeks.

After watching the third period last evening, I'm concerned.    They clearly lost their composure.   Yes, the officials were putting the screws to them.   But, the good teams have to stay composed during those times.    Schafer's last few teams do not seem to possess that mental toughness.    That's part of the discipline that Schafer is either no longer recruiting or no longer demanding of his players or both.    

The product on the ice shows it.

Not really. Last year, yes, I would agree it was terribly undisciplined. Before last night's game we were sitting at tenth in ECAC penalty minutes. Only Harard and Yale were behind us, or ahead, depending upon your point of view. That hardly says that they have been undisciplined.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaNot really. Last year, yes, I would agree it was terribly undisciplined. Before last night's game we were sitting at tenth in ECAC penalty minutes. Only Harard and Yale were behind us, or ahead, depending upon your point of view. That hardly says that they have been undisciplined.

Agreed.  They had two serious problems last year: penalties and blowing third period leads.  They addressed both effectively.  People need to step back from the ledge.  This team has its flaws, but it's a competitor for a bye and an bid and IIRC that's all anybody could dream of last August.

Jeff Hopkins '82

OK, people.  Calm down.  Minnesota lost two to Wisconsin this weekend.  Michigan lost to Penn State.  It happens.

Towerroad

Quote from: BearLoverIt seems almost every game, even the ones Cornell wins, there are extremely questionable calls from the refs.

I would assume that you believe that all calls that result in a Cornell Power Play were complety justified and called correctly. Only calls that go against Cornell are questionable?

The real quesiton is if the referees are not as good as you would like are they calling penalties consistently. If they are then the ice is level.

I find the idea that somehow the referees are meeting late at night plotting to steal victory from the Big Red suspect at best.