Ivy Standings

[scoop85]

Not too much attention is paid to the Ivy hockey race, but we're now 4-0 -- any idea the last time we started with 4 straight wins in Ivy play? (Trotsky?)  I'm guessing perhaps 2002-03.

[nyc94]

Not too much attention is paid to the Ivy hockey race, but we're now 4-0 -- any idea the last time we started with 4 straight wins in Ivy play? (Trotsky?)  I'm guessing perhaps 2002-03.

2-1 start that year. Lost to Dartmouth after wins at Princeton and Yale.
I found 4-0 start in 1997-98 and 1995-96.  95-96 went 9-0-1.

[Trotsky]

I haven't a color map for the Ivies, but I like it; it's on my list.

[TimV]

1969-70???  ::idea::::doh::


7 more:  62-63, 65-66, 68-69, 72-73, 76-77, 79-80, 83-84.  Chillingly, we had a few 3-0 starts and then lost to...Dartmouth.::scared::

[Trotsky]

In the meantime, here's a quick and dirty report of all ECAC RS games vs Ivy opponents.  There may be an error or two in the 60's when the schedule was weird -- I think there is a game someplace that was Ivy and not ECAC or vice versa (looks like 1966 at Yale is a probable).

Most recent from 5-0 through 12-0: 1970.

[TimV]

Yale in 66 was a league game.  In 63-4, Ned's first year, we lost a non-league game to Yale at the RPI holiday tournament.  I was there.::flipd::

[marty]

Yale in 66 was a league game.  In 63-4, Ned's first year, we lost a non-league game to Yale at the RPI holiday tournament.  I was there.::flipd::

I thought that in that era that all games played between ECAC teams were used to compute the league standings.  (That is what I remember in my undergrad 70-74 years.)  There were uneven scheduling issues and beyond that I am lost as I don't remember how the uneven scheduling would determine end of season ranking.  Therefore I am doubting my own memory concerning this.

I know someone reading this will help me with my mental short circuitry.  How was the uneven scheduling dealt with in the standings.

(I remember my first games attended were at the RPI Christmas Tournament and I can't remember what year that was as I was in high school or junior high.  It must have been later than 63-64.)

[Trotsky]

I know someone reading this will help me with my mental short circuitry.  How was the uneven scheduling dealt with in the standings.

I think this is more or less true:

+ Standings were in general determined by winning percentage
+ Very early (early 60's) tourney seedings were determined by some sort of smoke filled room and don't seem to be rational
+ The conference was divided for a relatively brief time into three division: Ivy, Empire (NY), and New England.  The winner of each division was guaranteed a home (top 4) seed

Here are the standings adjusted for seeding.  Note for example 1984, where Harvard got the 4 seed.

[Trotsky]

I have fixed both the ECAC RS and Ivy reports to reflect the 60's through 70's rule of counting Holiday Tourney games against ECAC opponents in the ECAC RS record, but not counting them in the Ivy record.

[Trotsky]

Back to the Ivies, this coming weekend is important for both the Ivy and ECAC standings.  If Cornell can get a good result (3 or 4 points) they have an excellent chance to win the Ivy title.  Likewise, with Yale and Brown two of the three teams (along with RPI) directly below them in the ECAC standings, a good result can help put a "floor" under fifth place.

[Josh '99]

Following the four-point weekend over Yale and Brown, Cornell have built up a big lead in the Ivy title race.  Two points from the remaining three games (@ Princeton, vs. Dartmouth, vs. Harvard) will clinch at least a shared title (with Dartmouth, the only other team that can reach 15 points) and three will guarantee an outright title.  No Ivy games for Cornell, Dartmouth, or Harvard (barely in the running if they win out) until 2/21; Brown (also barely in the running if they win out) would be eliminated with a loss to Princeton on 2/14.

[nyc94]

Harvard beat Dartmouth last night so now one point clinches a shared title and two guarantees it outright.

[Trotsky]

Harvard beat Dartmouth last night so now one point clinches a shared title and two guarantees it outright.

A Princeton win or tie Friday against Brown gives us a share of the title.  We could clinch the outright title without playing another game if in addition to Princeton beating Brown, next Friday (2/21) Harvard fails to beat Yale and Dartmouth fails to beat Brown, or Princeton ties Brown, Harvard fails to beat Yale, and Dartmouth ties Brown.

[billhoward]

Ivy standings http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/sports/mice/2013-14/standings  as of Monday Feb. 10. Cornell has 3 Ivy games left.  

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          [b]Ivy League                        ECAC Hockey                                Overall
        GP Record Win % Pts GF GA GP Record Win % Pts GF GA GP Record Win % GF GA Last 10 Streak[/b]
Cornell 7 6-0-1 0.929 13 20 10 16 8-4-4 0.625 20 40 38 22 12-5-5 0.659 60 52 5-1-3 Lost 1
Brown 7 4-3-0 0.571 8 16 20 16 6-9-1 0.406 13 39 49 23 9-11-3 0.457 62 68 4-5-1 Lost 3
Harvard 7 3-3-1 0.500 7 17 14 16 4-9-3 0.344 11 35 39 22 7-12-3 0.386 53 62 3-5-1 Won 1
D'mouth 7 3-3-1 0.500 7 18 17 16 3-12-1 0.219 7 35 64 23 4-16-3 0.239 57 90 2-5-3 Lost 1
Yale 7 2-4-1 0.357 5 18 16 16 7-6-3 0.531 17 51 40 23 12-7-4 0.609 75 54 5-4-1 Lost 1
P'ton 7 1-6-0 0.143 2 20 32 16 3-13-0 0.188 6 33 64 23 4-19-0 0.174 44 90 1-7 Lost 5

Cornell Ivy games to play:

Feb 22  Brown Princeton
Feb 28  Dartmouth
Mar 01  Harvard

[scoop85]

Ivy standings http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/sports/mice/2013-14/standings  as of Monday Feb. 10. Cornell has 3 Ivy games left.  

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          [b]Ivy League                        ECAC Hockey                                Overall
        GP Record Win % Pts GF GA GP Record Win % Pts GF GA GP Record Win % GF GA Last 10 Streak[/b]
Cornell 7 6-0-1 0.929 13 20 10 16 8-4-4 0.625 20 40 38 22 12-5-5 0.659 60 52 5-1-3 Lost 1
Brown 7 4-3-0 0.571 8 16 20 16 6-9-1 0.406 13 39 49 23 9-11-3 0.457 62 68 4-5-1 Lost 3
Harvard 7 3-3-1 0.500 7 17 14 16 4-9-3 0.344 11 35 39 22 7-12-3 0.386 53 62 3-5-1 Won 1
D'mouth 7 3-3-1 0.500 7 18 17 16 3-12-1 0.219 7 35 64 23 4-16-3 0.239 57 90 2-5-3 Lost 1
Yale 7 2-4-1 0.357 5 18 16 16 7-6-3 0.531 17 51 40 23 12-7-4 0.609 75 54 5-4-1 Lost 1
P'ton 7 1-6-0 0.143 2 20 32 16 3-13-0 0.188 6 33 64 23 4-19-0 0.174 44 90 1-7 Lost 5

Cornell Ivy games to play:

Feb 22  Brown
Feb 28  Dartmouth
Mar 01  Harvard

We play Princeton not Brown