NCAA Tournament

Started by Jim Hyla, March 24, 2013, 09:49:35 PM

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BearLover

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: BearLoverNonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now.  I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program.  They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

So... "extended period of time" = 6 years?  Troll, or too young to understand time?

The more accurate statement would be that Yale is better than Harvard right now, i.e., that they've replaced Harvard as the second-best Ivy.
Nope, they replaced Cornell as the best Ivy.  Six years is forever in sports, and more than enough to show their success is more than one great player or a lucky recruiting class.  Love the talking down to on these forums, though.  It seems like I've been accused of being a troll or an idiot quite a few times in the past few days when it's been obvious I haven't been trolling and I've supported my arguments perfectly well.

Swampy

Quote from: BearLoverNot sure why people here want Yale to keep winning.  It doesn't actually do Cornell any bit of good because the rankings are computerized, and I don't want Cornell to no longer be the team that has gotten the farthest in the NCAA tourney in recent memory.  

Nonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now.  I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program.  They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

Well, we're 1 game away from having two EZAC teams in the FF. That would be sort of cool.

kingpin248

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: BearLoverNot sure why people here want Yale to keep winning.  It doesn't actually do Cornell any bit of good because the rankings are computerized, and I don't want Cornell to no longer be the team that has gotten the farthest in the NCAA tourney in recent memory.  

Nonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now.  I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program.  They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

Well, we're 1 game away from having two EZAC teams in the FF. That would be sort of cool.

Would be the first time since the Great Divorce (last instance pre-formation of Hockey East was 1983, with Harvard and Providence).
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Swampy

It's pretty lame that a band at the UNH-UML game played "Hey Baby." It's one thing when fans of other teams steal our cheers, but when they steal songs chosen because of their relations to our players, it just makes the other teams' bands look stupid. ::stupid::

Ben

Quote from: BearLoverNot sure why people here want Yale to keep winning.  It doesn't actually do Cornell any bit of good because the rankings are computerized, and I don't want Cornell to no longer be the team that has gotten the farthest in the NCAA tourney in recent memory.  

Nonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now.  I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program.  They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.
I agree with all of this except the bolded part.

profudge

Any link for live stream of the Union vs BC  game ?
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HockeyMan

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: BearLoverNonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now.  I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program.  They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

So... "extended period of time" = 6 years?  Troll, or too young to understand time?

The more accurate statement would be that Yale is better than Harvard right now, i.e., that they've replaced Harvard as the second-best Ivy.
Nope, they replaced Cornell as the best Ivy.  Six years is forever in sports, and more than enough to show their success is more than one great player or a lucky recruiting class.  Love the talking down to on these forums, though.  It seems like I've been accused of being a troll or an idiot quite a few times in the past few days when it's been obvious I haven't been trolling and I've supported my arguments perfectly well.

Agree.  Yale is the better program right now, no question, and the casual way people are tossing out the trolling accusation is silly and annoying in equal measure. Quite apart from the results, I much prefer Allain's brand of hockey to Schafer's, but I've also thought Yale has been flat out the better team during recent years.  And it's been impressive to watch Yale not merely beat Minnesota and NoDak but hang with them, stride for stride, check for check. I would argue Schafer has some built-in recruiting advantages vis-a-vis Allain (the storied tradition, Lynah, the Ag School, the alumni support), but they're not translating into supremacy on the ice.

Scersk '97

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Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: BearLoverNonetheless, it's official: Yale is better than Cornell at hockey right now.  I don't mean this current team, I mean the entire current program.  They've now been doing this for an extended period of time, despite losing players to graduation, with a great system that Cornell can't ever beat.

So... "extended period of time" = 6 years?  Troll, or too young to understand time?

The more accurate statement would be that Yale is better than Harvard right now, i.e., that they've replaced Harvard as the second-best Ivy.
Nope, they replaced Cornell as the best Ivy.  Six years is forever in sports, and more than enough to show their success is more than one great player or a lucky recruiting class.  Love the talking down to on these forums, though.  It seems like I've been accused of being a troll or an idiot quite a few times in the past few days when it's been obvious I haven't been trolling and I've supported my arguments perfectly well.

Agree.  Yale is the better program right now, no question, and the casual way people are tossing out the trolling accusation is silly and annoying in equal measure. Quite apart from the results, I much prefer Allain's brand of hockey to Schafer's, but I've also thought Yale has been flat out the better team during recent years.  And it's been impressive to watch Yale not merely beat Minnesota and NoDak but hang with them, stride for stride, check for check. I would argue Schafer has some built-in recruiting advantages vis-a-vis Allain (the storied tradition, Lynah, the Ag School, the alumni support), but they're not translating into supremacy on the ice.

I saw nothing "reasoned" about BearLover's assertion, made in the manner of an overheated schoolboy, that Yale's program is "better," whatever that means, than ours is right now.  Where is the support?  Feel free to be pedantic.

I'll help you.  Use Allain's tenure, since you love him so.  We're 4-10-2 vs. them, with two very high profile losses.  They've won 2 ECAC championships; we've won one.  They've "won" two #1 seeds; we've won none.  (But then, the RS "championship" is worth a warm bucket of piss.)

Have they had our number lately?  Yes.  Are they unbeatable, no.  Just show some perspective.  For my part, I'm beginning to be... worried.  Come back to me when we haven't beaten them in the regular season for 10 years or so.  Come back to me when they've been in the final four multiple times, particularly if they win a championship.  Come back to me in, well, three years or so.  Then we'll have a discussion.

They've had the best of us, lately.  So what?  It probably won't last.

Trotsky

If Yale is worthy of emulation, we should recall in 2012 Yale was 16-16-3 overall and knocked out by Harvard in the QF.  

Evidently one mediocre season does not signal the Eschaton.

Trotsky

Quote from: profudgeAny link for live stream of the Union vs BC  game ?
ESPN3

marty

Quote from: SwampyIt's pretty lame that a band at the UNH-UML game played "Hey Baby." It's one thing when fans of other teams steal our cheers, but when they steal songs chosen because of their relations to our players, it just makes the other teams' bands look stupid. ::stupid::

Interesting if true. Do most here believe that the song wasn't used by colleges before we started for Baby?  I still sing the kill some one version whenever it's played.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Trotsky

I've heard it at NHL games and MLB games.  Either we are very influential or it's a coincidence that we had the Baby cheer.

ugarte

Union up 2-0 early in the second. ECAC!

Trotsky

Union now 3-0.

If the ECAC is responsible for killing off Minnesota, North Dakota, and BC, the entire Free World, let alone the hockey world, owes the conference a beer.

marty

Quote from: Barry MelroseIt's a brain-crap by Milner.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."