Men's Preseason

Started by Jim Hyla, July 23, 2012, 08:26:14 AM

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Jim Hyla

Hopefully the first of many preseason articles. This one by INCH on Bardreau.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jim Hyla

Ok, so a "nice" way to get my preseason thread back up top. After all, it's the preseason, not off season.:-D

Anyway, Iles picked as goalie #3 in USCHO's list of 10 to watch.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

nyc94

First USCHO Poll


1 Boston College (35) 33-10-1 972
2 Minnesota (12) 28-14-1 937
3 Michigan ( 3) 24-13-4 857
4 North Dakota 26-13-3 826
5 Union        26- 8-7 789
6 Cornell        19- 9-7 631
7 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 599
8 Denver        25-14-4 566
9 Miami        24-15-2 553
10 Western Michigan 21-14-6 516
11 Ferris State 26-12-5 472
12 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 460
13 Boston University 23-15-1 413
14 Notre Dame 19-18-3 395
15 Maine        23-14-3 234
16 Michigan State 19-16-4 219
17 Harvard        13-10-11 213
18 Wisconsin 17-18-2 202
19 Air Force 21-11-7 116
20 Colorado College 18-16-2 81


Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 78, St. Cloud State 78, Quinnipiac 64, Ohio State 54, Merrimack 43, Nebraska-Omaha 31, Northern Michigan 25, Massachusetts 13, Lake Superior 12, Northeastern 11, Providence 8, Rochester Institute of Technology 6, Yale 6, Michigan Tech 5, Rensselaer 5, Mercyhurst 2, Minnesota State 2, Niagara 2, Colgate 1, St. Lawrence 1.

ajh258

Glad we're that high on the polls, but are they overrating us? I mean we're good but are we THAT good? Just curious

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Robb

Quote from: ajh258Glad we're that high on the polls, but are they overrating us? I mean we're good but are we THAT good? Just curious
We nearly won the Cleary, were within a gnat's whisker of the Frozen Four last year, didn't lose too much, and we get Ferlin back - I don't think it's unreasonable to at least *hope* that we are that good.
Let's Go RED!

Trotsky

It is really weird thinking about those teams in terms of the new conferences...

css228

Quote from: ajh258Glad we're that high on the polls, but are they overrating us? I mean we're good but are we THAT good? Just curious
We did make a regional final last year without our star freshamn forward, or healthy contributions from Espo, and didn't really lose much. So I'd incline toward yes.

Trotsky

TBRW Predictions

1. Union
2. Harvard
3. Cornell
4. Quinnipiac
5. RPI
6. St. Lawrence
7. Yale
8. Colgate
9. Princeton
10. Dartmouth
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

Jim Hyla

Quote from: TrotskyTBRW Predictions

1. Union
2. Harvard
3. Cornell
4. Quinnipiac
5. RPI
6. St. Lawrence
7. Yale
8. Colgate
9. Princeton
10. Dartmouth
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

My concern is the weighting of post-season upsets. When you give both + and -, then a loss, like we had to Harvard, gets double value. In fact that one game, as important as it was, is the only reason they are 2 and we are 3. I know it's meaningless, but have you ever run a variety of weightings thru and seen how the actually compare to the end result?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyTBRW Predictions

1. Union
2. Harvard
3. Cornell
4. Quinnipiac
5. RPI
6. St. Lawrence
7. Yale
8. Colgate
9. Princeton
10. Dartmouth
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

My concern is the weighting of post-season upsets. When you give both + and -, then a loss, like we had to Harvard, gets double value. In fact that one game, as important as it was, is the only reason they are 2 and we are 3. I know it's meaningless, but have you ever run a variety of weightings thru and seen how the actually compare to the end result?

I've been meaning to actually do real correlation measures on the various factors... since about 1989.

billhoward

Was Harvard the ECAC #2 to our #3 before or after the academic integrity flap hit? If they have to go to class and also study, that's going to cut into practice time. This is uncharted territory in Cambridge.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyTBRW Predictions

1. Union
2. Harvard
3. Cornell
4. Quinnipiac
5. RPI
6. St. Lawrence
7. Yale
8. Colgate
9. Princeton
10. Dartmouth
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

My concern is the weighting of post-season upsets. When you give both + and -, then a loss, like we had to Harvard, gets double value. In fact that one game, as important as it was, is the only reason they are 2 and we are 3. I know it's meaningless, but have you ever run a variety of weightings thru and seen how the actually compare to the end result?

I've been meaning to actually do real correlation measures on the various factors... since about 1989.

Well then...::deadhorse::
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Redscore

Uscho has run out of things to talk about.  What next,  the best non paid but not really full time and not really paid assistant, associate, teaching, coaching, semi-coaches?  Loserville here we comme.