You Are The Committee

Started by jtwcornell91, March 12, 2012, 07:19:36 AM

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trainbow

As far as I can tell, if Cornell wins one game in AC, they are in the top 14 of PWR.
WMich might jump ahead if they gain an upset in their tournament, but CU is still 14th.
CU might still be in if they lose two games and the underdogs don't prevail in the other conferences, but it gets close for the committee.
Their position in the PWR seems to depend on the comparison with UMinn, which right now is in CU's favor and doesn't flip until CU loses two games in AC.
Let's hope for good ice!  It's going to be unseasonably warm this week.

upprdeck

if teams already pretty set in PWR win the tourneys CU stays pretty solid.. harvard/bowling green/ mich tech/prov are the ones to worry about.

we should know after the first night reallyw what the chances are. CU can get all the way to at least 7 if they win out..

ajh258

If all the lower seeds win and we lose both games this week, we will drop down to 16th and will be knocked out.

If all the lower seeds win but we beat Union in the consolation game, we will be 11th and still make the tournament.

If all the lower seeds win but we beat Colgate in the consolation game, we will be 13th and will be knocked out by auto-bids.

If all the lower seeds win but we beat Harvard and lose to Colgate in the championship game, we will be 13th and will be knocked out by auto-bids.


Basically, anything can happen and the only sure way to make the NCAA at this point is to win the championship.

andyw2100

Quote from: ajh258Basically, anything can happen and the only sure way to make the NCAA at this point is to win the championship.

I don't expect anyone here will object to that plan of action.

Trotsky

Quote from: upprdeckCU can get all the way to at least 7 if they win out..

Using the CHN YOU ARE THE COMMITTEE PAGE,[/size] I got us to a three-way tie for 3 with these results:

QuoteAtlantic Hockey

    Semifinal #2: Niagara defeats RIT
    Semifinal #1: Air Force defeats Mercyhurst
    Championship game: Air Force defeats Niagara

CCHA

    Semifinal #2: Western Michigan defeats Miami
    Semifinal #1: Bowling Green defeats Michigan
    Championship game: Bowling Green defeats Western Michigan
    Consolation game: Michigan defeats Miami

ECAC

    Semifinal #2: Cornell defeats Harvard
    Semifinal #1: Union defeats Colgate
    Championship game: Cornell defeats Union
    Consolation game: Harvard defeats Colgate

Hockey East

    Semifinal #2: Maine defeats Boston University
    Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Boston College
    Championship game: Providence defeats Maine

WCHA

    Play-in #2: Denver defeats Michigan Tech
    Play-in #1: North Dakota defeats St. Cloud State
    Semifinal #2: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Denver
    Semifinal #1: Minnesota defeats North Dakota
    Championship game: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Minnesota

To show how volatile it is, just flipping the ECAC F throws us all the way down to #13.

css228

I've been able to get us to  6 and I have seen CHN on twitter say they can get us up to 3. Honestly though, a low 2 or a high 3 is probably the best seeding we can hope for.

Trotsky

Quote from: css228I've been able to get us to  6 and I have seen CHN on twitter say they can get us up to 3. Honestly though, a low 2 or a high 3 is probably the best seeding we can hope for.
The only big FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU to avoid is getting seeded out in the Minnesota Invitational.

ugarte

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeckCU can get all the way to at least 7 if they win out..

Using the USCHO PWR predictor, I got us to a three-way tie for 3 with these results:

QuoteAtlantic Hockey

    Semifinal #2: Niagara defeats RIT
    Semifinal #1: Air Force defeats Mercyhurst
    Championship game: Air Force defeats Niagara

CCHA

    Semifinal #2: Western Michigan defeats Miami
    Semifinal #1: Bowling Green defeats Michigan
    Championship game: Bowling Green defeats Western Michigan
    Consolation game: Michigan defeats Miami

ECAC

    Semifinal #2: Cornell defeats Harvard
    Semifinal #1: Union defeats Colgate
    Championship game: Cornell defeats Union
    Consolation game: Harvard defeats Colgate

Hockey East

    Semifinal #2: Maine defeats Boston University
    Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Boston College
    Championship game: Providence defeats Maine

WCHA

    Play-in #2: Denver defeats Michigan Tech
    Play-in #1: North Dakota defeats St. Cloud State
    Semifinal #2: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Denver
    Semifinal #1: Minnesota defeats North Dakota
    Championship game: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Minnesota

To show how volatile it is, just flipping the ECAC F throws us all the way down to #13.
I assume Union is still in when we're a 3, right? Is there any way to get a three-team conference? (I can't imagine it is possible but you people have done some impressive work in the past.)

ajh258

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeckCU can get all the way to at least 7 if they win out..

Using the USCHO PWR predictor, I got us to a three-way tie for 3 with these results:

QuoteAtlantic Hockey

    Semifinal #2: Niagara defeats RIT
    Semifinal #1: Air Force defeats Mercyhurst
    Championship game: Air Force defeats Niagara

CCHA

    Semifinal #2: Western Michigan defeats Miami
    Semifinal #1: Bowling Green defeats Michigan
    Championship game: Bowling Green defeats Western Michigan
    Consolation game: Michigan defeats Miami

ECAC

    Semifinal #2: Cornell defeats Harvard
    Semifinal #1: Union defeats Colgate
    Championship game: Cornell defeats Union
    Consolation game: Harvard defeats Colgate

Hockey East

    Semifinal #2: Maine defeats Boston University
    Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Boston College
    Championship game: Providence defeats Maine

WCHA

    Play-in #2: Denver defeats Michigan Tech
    Play-in #1: North Dakota defeats St. Cloud State
    Semifinal #2: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Denver
    Semifinal #1: Minnesota defeats North Dakota
    Championship game: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Minnesota

To show how volatile it is, just flipping the ECAC F throws us all the way down to #13.
I assume Union is still in when we're a 3, right? Is there any way to get a three-team conference? (I can't imagine it is possible but you people have done some impressive work in the past.)

It's not that impossible actually. If all the high seeds win, and the ECAC plays out like this:

Friday, Cornell wins, Colgate wins.
Saturday, Union wins, Colgate wins.

Union would be 8th, Cornell 13th, Colgate will get an auto-bid.

There are a few other combinations where some of the higher seeds from other conferences lose and this scenario is still true.

Rita

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: css228I've been able to get us to  6 and I have seen CHN on twitter say they can get us up to 3. Honestly though, a low 2 or a high 3 is probably the best seeding we can hope for.
The only big FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU to avoid is getting seeded out in the Minnesota Invitational.

Trotsky, I've already damned us. I have a commitment on Saturday 3/24 in the afternoon. That ensures if we do make the NC$$, we will be sent to Minnesota and playing Saturday afternoon.

Beeeej

Quote from: RitaTrotsky, I've already damned us. I have a commitment on Saturday 3/24 in the afternoon. That ensures if we do make the NC$$, we will be sent to Minnesota and playing Saturday afternoon.

I pretty much have to miss traveling for the regionals no matter what as well - I'm flying to Florida on Saturday 3/24 on business.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Trotsky

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: RitaTrotsky, I've already damned us. I have a commitment on Saturday 3/24 in the afternoon. That ensures if we do make the NC$$, we will be sent to Minnesota and playing Saturday afternoon.

I pretty much have to miss traveling for the regionals no matter what as well - I'm flying to Florida on Saturday 3/24 on business.
Lemme get this straight.  You scheduled a business trip in Florida, not only on the week of the Regionals, but two weeks before the Frozen Four in Florida?


ajh258

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeckCU can get all the way to at least 7 if they win out..

Using the USCHO PWR predictor, I got us to a three-way tie for 3 with these results:

QuoteAtlantic Hockey

    Semifinal #2: Niagara defeats RIT
    Semifinal #1: Air Force defeats Mercyhurst
    Championship game: Air Force defeats Niagara

CCHA

    Semifinal #2: Western Michigan defeats Miami
    Semifinal #1: Bowling Green defeats Michigan
    Championship game: Bowling Green defeats Western Michigan
    Consolation game: Michigan defeats Miami

ECAC

    Semifinal #2: Cornell defeats Harvard
    Semifinal #1: Union defeats Colgate
    Championship game: Cornell defeats Union
    Consolation game: Harvard defeats Colgate

Hockey East

    Semifinal #2: Maine defeats Boston University
    Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Boston College
    Championship game: Providence defeats Maine

WCHA

    Play-in #2: Denver defeats Michigan Tech
    Play-in #1: North Dakota defeats St. Cloud State
    Semifinal #2: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Denver
    Semifinal #1: Minnesota defeats North Dakota
    Championship game: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Minnesota

To show how volatile it is, just flipping the ECAC F throws us all the way down to #13.
We are tied for 3rd in this scenario, but it's a three way tie between Cornell, Ferris State and Michigan. Interestingly, each of our teams beat out only one of the other two in direct comparisons, so that means the committee is going to use RPI, which we are the lowest of the three and will give us a 2nd seed.

Now, if we use your selections, and just change the WCHA results to Denver defeats Minnesota-Duluth and then Minnesota defeats Denver, Cornell will be in 4th place in PWR, giving us a 1st seed and home ice in Bridgeport.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeckCU can get all the way to at least 7 if they win out..

Using the USCHO PWR predictor, I got us to a three-way tie for 3 with these results:

QuoteAtlantic Hockey

    Semifinal #2: Niagara defeats RIT
    Semifinal #1: Air Force defeats Mercyhurst
    Championship game: Air Force defeats Niagara

CCHA

    Semifinal #2: Western Michigan defeats Miami
    Semifinal #1: Bowling Green defeats Michigan
    Championship game: Bowling Green defeats Western Michigan
    Consolation game: Michigan defeats Miami

ECAC

    Semifinal #2: Cornell defeats Harvard
    Semifinal #1: Union defeats Colgate
    Championship game: Cornell defeats Union
    Consolation game: Harvard defeats Colgate

Hockey East

    Semifinal #2: Maine defeats Boston University
    Semifinal #1: Providence defeats Boston College
    Championship game: Providence defeats Maine

WCHA

    Play-in #2: Denver defeats Michigan Tech
    Play-in #1: North Dakota defeats St. Cloud State
    Semifinal #2: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Denver
    Semifinal #1: Minnesota defeats North Dakota
    Championship game: Minnesota-Duluth defeats Minnesota

To show how volatile it is, just flipping the ECAC F throws us all the way down to #13.

You're kidding correct? USCHO in this thread. Anyway, it looks like Age and I may have something funny to eat, we seem to have a good chance of getting in without winning.
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