Maryland 70 Cornell 62

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nyc94

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Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.

This isn't going to help.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=320420163
Only appropriate reaction: ::banana::

On an even better note, we're now 10-12, 5-3 in Ivy play. Johnny Gray had a very good weekend and His 'Ski-ness is scoring again.

Harvard loses to Penn 55-54 at home.  They are now 10-2, Penn is 9-2.  Harvard finishes their season at Columbia and Cornell next weekend.

css228

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Quote from: Ben
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.

This isn't going to help.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=320420163
Only appropriate reaction: ::banana::

On an even better note, we're now 10-12, 5-3 in Ivy play. Johnny Gray had a very good weekend and His 'Ski-ness is scoring again.

Harvard loses to Penn 55-54 at home.  They are now 10-2, Penn is 9-2.  Harvard finishes their season at Columbia and Cornell next weekend.
As hard as this is having grown up with a Princeton alum for a mother, go Penn! Let's help em send Harvard to the NIT (this might be the first time in my life I have ever uttered those words)

mountainred

Quote from: css228
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.

This isn't going to help.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=320420163
Only appropriate reaction: ::banana::

On an even better note, we're now 10-12, 5-3 in Ivy play. Johnny Gray had a very good weekend and His 'Ski-ness is scoring again.

Harvard loses to Penn 55-54 at home.  They are now 10-2, Penn is 9-2.  Harvard finishes their season at Columbia and Cornell next weekend.
As hard as this is having grown up with a Princeton alum for a mother, go Penn! Let's help em send Harvard to the NIT (this might be the first time in my life I have ever uttered those words)

Love Amaker's class about the late game charge call (from the linked NYT story):  "Amaker said he needed to watch a replay before making an extensive comment. "We didn't get the call," he said. "Par for the course.""
Dude, you are 24-4 and whining that the refs have been against you all season?  He really has done the impossible and turned me into a Penn fan.  I feel a little dirty for just saying that.

French Rage

What's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

Ben

Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.

ugarte

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Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.
At least one analyst has said that he thinks if that happens, and Penn wins, the Ivies will be a two-bid conference. He also thought that if Harvard drops one to Cornell or Columbia, they'd still be right around the tournament bubble.

nyc94

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.
At least one analyst has said that he thinks if that happens, and Penn wins, the Ivies will be a two-bid conference. He also thought that if Harvard drops one to Cornell or Columbia, they'd still be right around the tournament bubble.

Further evidence that the world will come to an end in 2012.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.
At least one analyst has said that he thinks if that happens, and Penn wins, the Ivies will be a two-bid conference. He also thought that if Harvard drops one to Cornell or Columbia, they'd still be right around the tournament bubble.

Further evidence that the world will come to an end in 2012.

Bid inflation!

css228

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.
At least one analyst has said that he thinks if that happens, and Penn wins, the Ivies will be a two-bid conference. He also thought that if Harvard drops one to Cornell or Columbia, they'd still be right around the tournament bubble.

Further evidence that the world will come to an end in 2012.

Bid inflation!
As much as I want the Ivy's to get more respect, Harvard isn't good enough for an at large bid. They lost to FORDHAM. If a Cornell team played the same schedule and had the same record it wouldn't come close to being nationally ranked,

jtn27

Quote from: css228
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.
At least one analyst has said that he thinks if that happens, and Penn wins, the Ivies will be a two-bid conference. He also thought that if Harvard drops one to Cornell or Columbia, they'd still be right around the tournament bubble.

Further evidence that the world will come to an end in 2012.

Bid inflation!
As much as I want the Ivy's to get more respect, Harvard isn't good enough for an at large bid. They lost to FORDHAM. If a Cornell team played the same schedule and had the same record it wouldn't come close to being nationally ranked,

I disagree. If Cornell had the exact same season Harvard has had this year we would be ranked the same as Harvard (which I think is not good enough to make the tournament as an at-large bid, considering the losses to Fordam, Penn, and Princeton). It's not like there is a pro-Harvard bias in college basketball circles that gives them an advantage, nor is there an anti-Cornell bias (there might an anti-Ivy bias though). Now Duke on the other hand...
Class of 2013

semsox

Quote from: jtn27I disagree. If Cornell had the exact same season Harvard has had this year we would be ranked the same as Harvard (which I think is not good enough to make the tournament as an at-large bid, considering the losses to Fordam, Penn, and Princeton). It's not like there is a pro-Harvard bias in college basketball circles that gives them an advantage, nor is there an anti-Cornell bias (there might an anti-Ivy bias though). Now Duke on the other hand...

Nailed it

css228

Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.
At least one analyst has said that he thinks if that happens, and Penn wins, the Ivies will be a two-bid conference. He also thought that if Harvard drops one to Cornell or Columbia, they'd still be right around the tournament bubble.

Further evidence that the world will come to an end in 2012.

Bid inflation!
As much as I want the Ivy's to get more respect, Harvard isn't good enough for an at large bid. They lost to FORDHAM. If a Cornell team played the same schedule and had the same record it wouldn't come close to being nationally ranked,

I disagree. If Cornell had the exact same season Harvard has had this year we would be ranked the same as Harvard (which I think is not good enough to make the tournament as an at-large bid, considering the losses to Fordam, Penn, and Princeton). It's not like there is a pro-Harvard bias in college basketball circles that gives them an advantage, nor is there an anti-Cornell bias (there might an anti-Ivy bias though). Now Duke on the other hand...
I really think the media wants Harvard to get in because it makes for a sexy story. Remember that  Harvard was the favorite heading into the game in Ithaca despite being a clearly inferior team (evidenced by their 32 point loss). Anyone whod watched a basketball game involving both teams could have told you that Cornell team was the FAR superior team. There may not be a pro-Harvard bias, but there's definitely for a bias for a good story and lets face it what's the better story, Cornell dominant Ivy League power who can play with the best in the country, or replacing that with Harvard. The media loved the Cornell story, but Harvard making that same run is the media's wet dream.

ugarte

Quote from: css228
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.
At least one analyst has said that he thinks if that happens, and Penn wins, the Ivies will be a two-bid conference. He also thought that if Harvard drops one to Cornell or Columbia, they'd still be right around the tournament bubble.

Further evidence that the world will come to an end in 2012.

Bid inflation!
As much as I want the Ivy's to get more respect, Harvard isn't good enough for an at large bid. They lost to FORDHAM. If a Cornell team played the same schedule and had the same record it wouldn't come close to being nationally ranked,

I disagree. If Cornell had the exact same season Harvard has had this year we would be ranked the same as Harvard (which I think is not good enough to make the tournament as an at-large bid, considering the losses to Fordam, Penn, and Princeton). It's not like there is a pro-Harvard bias in college basketball circles that gives them an advantage, nor is there an anti-Cornell bias (there might an anti-Ivy bias though). Now Duke on the other hand...
I really think the media wants Harvard to get in because it makes for a sexy story. Remember that  Harvard was the favorite heading into the game in Ithaca despite being a clearly inferior team (evidenced by their 32 point loss). Anyone whod watched a basketball game involving both teams could have told you that Cornell team was the FAR superior team. There may not be a pro-Harvard bias, but there's definitely for a bias for a good story and lets face it what's the better story, Cornell dominant Ivy League power who can play with the best in the country, or replacing that with Harvard. The media loved the Cornell story, but Harvard making that same run is the media's wet dream.
The media doesn't pick the bracket, the polls don't matter and the Committee has shown very little interest in the past about "cool storylines" when filling out the last four in. Bracketologists have Harvard as an 9/10 because they performed well against a tough schedule.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to take this switch and flense my back for saying something nice about Harvard.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: css228
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: French RageWhat's the tiebreaker if they both finish 12-2?  A single game playoff?
They share the Ivy title and play one game (probably at Levein or Lee) for the NCAA autobid.
At least one analyst has said that he thinks if that happens, and Penn wins, the Ivies will be a two-bid conference. He also thought that if Harvard drops one to Cornell or Columbia, they'd still be right around the tournament bubble.

Further evidence that the world will come to an end in 2012.

Bid inflation!
As much as I want the Ivy's to get more respect, Harvard isn't good enough for an at large bid. They lost to FORDHAM. If a Cornell team played the same schedule and had the same record it wouldn't come close to being nationally ranked,

I disagree. If Cornell had the exact same season Harvard has had this year we would be ranked the same as Harvard (which I think is not good enough to make the tournament as an at-large bid, considering the losses to Fordam, Penn, and Princeton). It's not like there is a pro-Harvard bias in college basketball circles that gives them an advantage, nor is there an anti-Cornell bias (there might an anti-Ivy bias though). Now Duke on the other hand...
I really think the media wants Harvard to get in because it makes for a sexy story. Remember that  Harvard was the favorite heading into the game in Ithaca despite being a clearly inferior team (evidenced by their 32 point loss). Anyone whod watched a basketball game involving both teams could have told you that Cornell team was the FAR superior team. There may not be a pro-Harvard bias, but there's definitely for a bias for a good story and lets face it what's the better story, Cornell dominant Ivy League power who can play with the best in the country, or replacing that with Harvard. The media loved the Cornell story, but Harvard making that same run is the media's wet dream.

Put it together with Jeremy Lin and you'll need a pretty large box of tissues.

KenP

If there's a bias it simply is the media wanting Harvard to fill the roll as the this year's Cornell-like cinderella story to hype up the March Madness excitement.