Maryland 70 Cornell 62

Started by phillysportsfan, December 11, 2011, 06:46:55 PM

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mountainred

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Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.
Doesn't anyone feel a band of brothers bonding with Harvard this year as an Ivy team that might have one, maybe two, wins in it come NCAA tournament time? Penn and Princeton carried the Ivy League banner for years, we did it for a couple, and now Harvard has the chance. Not saying I feel warm and fuzzy about the Cantabs myself.
Nope. I want the Sweet 16 to feel special for at least a decade... unless Cornell is winning the league again in which case another run would be nice.

Harvard's reputation doesn't hinge on the FSU win. They've also beaten Utah, BC* and St. Joe's. The former two aren't good BCS teams, but St. Joe's has been very good this year. Even the bottom of the BCS conferences are big wins for Ivy schools. But a loss to 7-6 Fordham? Even on the road, and even though they beat Georgia Tech too, that is death to a seed for a mid-major champ.

No Ivy squad should ever apologize for beating a BCS team, but Utah is brutally bad and BC (sorry Coach D) isn't much better.  If you don't trust me, the all-powerful RPI says those are two of Harvard's three least impressive wins this season.  
The point about Coach D was what I was going to say before I forgot to follow up on my footnote. I have no idea how long they'll let him hang in since Skinner had some success and they still canned him.

The Utah and BC games will look better in RPI when they play their conference schedule. That isn't actually a good point but rather a thing about RPI that is dumb.

I think Coach D gets a mulligan for this season based on the surprising success he had last year and the Eagles' turning over their entire roster this year.  But he better produce significantly better results next season because losses to Harvard, BU, Holy Cross and UMass won't stand for very long.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.
Doesn't anyone feel a band of brothers bonding with Harvard this year as an Ivy team that might have one, maybe two, wins in it come NCAA tournament time? Penn and Princeton carried the Ivy League banner for years, we did it for a couple, and now Harvard has the chance. Not saying I feel warm and fuzzy about the Cantabs myself.
Nope. I want the Sweet 16 to feel special for at least a decade... unless Cornell is winning the league again in which case another run would be nice.

Harvard's reputation doesn't hinge on the FSU win. They've also beaten Utah, BC* and St. Joe's. The former two aren't good BCS teams, but St. Joe's has been very good this year. Even the bottom of the BCS conferences are big wins for Ivy schools. But a loss to 7-6 Fordham? Even on the road, and even though they beat Georgia Tech too, that is death to a seed for a mid-major champ.

No Ivy squad should ever apologize for beating a BCS team, but Utah is brutally bad and BC (sorry Coach D) isn't much better.  If you don't trust me, the all-powerful RPI says those are two of Harvard's three least impressive wins this season.  
The point about Coach D was what I was going to say before I forgot to follow up on my footnote. I have no idea how long they'll let him hang in since Skinner had some success and they still canned him.

The Utah and BC games will look better in RPI when they play their conference schedule. That isn't actually a good point but rather a thing about RPI that is dumb.

I think Coach D gets a mulligan for this season based on the surprising success he had last year and the Eagles' turning over their entire roster this year.  But he better produce significantly better results next season because losses to Harvard, BU, Holy Cross and UMass won't stand for very long.
Not good to be picked to finish last in the league in the pre-season poll, either.
Al DeFlorio '65

phillysportsfan

Quote from: RichH
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Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.
Doesn't anyone feel a band of brothers bonding with Harvard this year as an Ivy team that might have one, maybe two, wins in it come NCAA tournament time? Penn and Princeton carried the Ivy League banner for years, we did it for a couple, and now Harvard has the chance. Not saying I feel warm and fuzzy about the Cantabs myself.
Yes.  I'll be rooting for them.  A rising tide lifts all yachts.

How many Ivy games have been played? Is it that clear-cut that we're already crowning them and slotting their regional seeding?

Will never root for Harvard, hate them. Would like to see Harvard find a way to not make the NCAA's this year

phillysportsfan

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.
Doesn't anyone feel a band of brothers bonding with Harvard this year as an Ivy team that might have one, maybe two, wins in it come NCAA tournament time? Penn and Princeton carried the Ivy League banner for years, we did it for a couple, and now Harvard has the chance. Not saying I feel warm and fuzzy about the Cantabs myself.
Nope. I want the Sweet 16 to feel special for at least a decade... unless Cornell is winning the league again in which case another run would be nice.

Harvard's reputation doesn't hinge on the FSU win. They've also beaten Utah, BC* and St. Joe's. The former two aren't good BCS teams, but St. Joe's has been very good this year. Even the bottom of the BCS conferences are big wins for Ivy schools. But a loss to 7-6 Fordham? Even on the road, and even though they beat Georgia Tech too, that is death to a seed for a mid-major champ.

No Ivy squad should ever apologize for beating a BCS team, but Utah is brutally bad and BC (sorry Coach D) isn't much better.  If you don't trust me, the all-powerful RPI says those are two of Harvard's three least impressive wins this season.  
The point about Coach D was what I was going to say before I forgot to follow up on my footnote. I have no idea how long they'll let him hang in since Skinner had some success and they still canned him.

The Utah and BC games will look better in RPI when they play their conference schedule. That isn't actually a good point but rather a thing about RPI that is dumb.

I think Coach D gets a mulligan for this season based on the surprising success he had last year and the Eagles' turning over their entire roster this year.  But he better produce significantly better results next season because losses to Harvard, BU, Holy Cross and UMass won't stand for very long.

I hope he can turn it around quick next year, would hate to see Donahue get fired in 2 years


Ben

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Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.

This isn't going to help.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=320420163
Only appropriate reaction: ::banana::

On an even better note, we're now 10-12, 5-3 in Ivy play. Johnny Gray had a very good weekend and His 'Ski-ness is scoring again.

css228

Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.

This isn't going to help.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=320420163
Hopefully we can find a way to welcome them to the NIT

phillysportsfan

Quote from: css228
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.

This isn't going to help.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=320420163
Hopefully we can find a way to welcome them to the NIT

Yes it would be funny to see Harvard find a way to not win the IVy title again but unless we can win it I cant really root for any of the other teams. Would also be nice to see Mangano and Rosen graduate with 0 Ivy titles

phillysportsfan

Quote from: Ben
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ugarteHey Harvard, welcome to the 13 seed.

This isn't going to help.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=320420163
Only appropriate reaction: ::banana::

On an even better note, we're now 10-12, 5-3 in Ivy play. Johnny Gray had a very good weekend and His 'Ski-ness is scoring again.

Yes great weekend, Yale game was probably their best game all season, offense was finally running smoothly and consistently the last 2 games. Gray has been on a tear, scoring double digit points the last 6 games.

Ben

Princeton fans rushed the court after they beat Harvard. That's just wrong for so many reasons. Kids these days!

phillysportsfan


Ben

Quote from: phillysportsfanYeah Harvard shouldnt have even been ranked
It's not just that. It's that they've beaten Harvard at Jadwin every year since 1989, they have 26 Ivy titles to Harvard's one, and as many Final Fours as Harvard has NCAA tourney appearances. It's ridiculous.

ugarte

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Quote from: phillysportsfanYeah Harvard shouldnt have even been ranked
It's not just that. It's that they've beaten Harvard at Jadwin every year since 1989, they have 26 Ivy titles to Harvard's one, and as many Final Fours as Harvard has NCAA tourney appearances. It's ridiculous.
Harvard was a ranked team. I can see the kids getting excited. And it has to feel good to stick a shiv in Harvard.

Now that Harvard is hurting it doesn't pain me to say that the FSU win looks a lot better than it used to. FSU beat UNC and Duke this year. At the same time, Fordham is tied for last in the A10, so that loss looks particularly bad.

css228

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Quote from: phillysportsfanYeah Harvard shouldnt have even been ranked
It's not just that. It's that they've beaten Harvard at Jadwin every year since 1989, they have 26 Ivy titles to Harvard's share of one, and as many Final Fours as Harvard has NCAA tourney appearances. It's ridiculous.
FYP

RichH

Quote from: BenPrinceton fans rushed the court after they beat Harvard. That's just wrong for so many reasons. Kids these days!

Storming the court has moved past sharks and is now jumping humpback whales. But ESBN keeps showing it, so what do you think is going to keep happening?