Consecutive shutout minutes at Lynah?

Started by margolism, December 03, 2011, 08:29:36 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: SwampySometimes even one classic game can make two schools rivals.

Unfortunately that was not our only classic game against them.

RatushnyFan

Quote from: BeeeejI always figured it stemmed from:

http://www.tbrw.info/ecac_Tournament/ecac_tournament.html#1991
and
http://www.tbrw.info/ecac_Tournament/ecac_tournament.html#1996

Those weren't victories, they were absolute pastings.
In '91, I think the regular season games with Colgate were all very close, I think we split with them in very close games. Those playoff blowouts were fun, but in general the games with Gate were pretty intense from 1988-92 when I was at Cornell.  I believe that we split with them every year if I'm not mistaken.  Harvard outclassed us the first couple of years of my Ithaca tenure, I considered Gate to be a big rivalry and the games were very hard fought.

Aaron M. Griffin

We have classic games against Wisconsin, but they all seem to go against Cornell. Especially, the 2006 3OT loss in the Midwest Final. I think that Wisconsin would not view Cornell as a rival. I think it is a one-sided rivalry. I would be shocked if Wisconsin considered Cornell a rival considering that Cornell has been on the losing side of most games against them (2-4-0 record with 1 OT win and 2 OT losses).

I think that rivalries are relative to a person's time on the Hill. I know that there was a palpable tension verging on that characteristic of a rivalry between Cornell and Yale while I was at Cornell. However, my time at Cornell was during the majority of a nine-game winless streak against the Elis. I am not sure what existed of a Cornell-Yale rivalry will survive after that streak was broken in November 2011. I doubt it will stand the test of time like the Cornell-Harvard and BU-Cornell rivalries.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

Beeeej

Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinWe have classic games against Wisconsin, but they all seem to go against Cornell. Especially, the 2006 3OT loss in the Midwest Final. I think that Wisconsin would not view Cornell as a rival. I think it is a one-sided rivalry. I would be shocked if Wisconsin considered Cornell a rival considering that Cornell has been on the losing side of most games against them (2-4-0 record with 1 OT win and 2 OT losses).

I don't think Wisconsin considers Cornell a rival, per se... but two weeks after that heartbreaking loss in 2006, I was wearing my Cornell jersey at the Frozen Four in Wisconsin, and literally about a hundred individual Wisconsin fans approached me to say how incredible that game had been, and what a shame it was that either team had to lose.  Cornell clearly earned a lot of respect from Wisconsin fans that day.

But you're right, and in general, it's hard to imagine a serious rivalry growing out of only a half dozen games over the last fifty years.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

RichH

Quote from: BeeeejI don't think Wisconsin considers Cornell a rival, per se... but two weeks after that heartbreaking loss in 2006, I was wearing my Cornell jersey at the Frozen Four in Wisconsin, and literally about a hundred individual Wisconsin fans approached me to say how incredible that game had been, and what a shame it was that either team had to lose.  Cornell clearly earned a lot of respect from Wisconsin fans that day.

And they bought us a LOT of drinks. So at least that came out of it.

I don't consider Wisconsin a rival at all.

Beeeej

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BeeeejI don't think Wisconsin considers Cornell a rival, per se... but two weeks after that heartbreaking loss in 2006, I was wearing my Cornell jersey at the Frozen Four in Wisconsin, and literally about a hundred individual Wisconsin fans approached me to say how incredible that game had been, and what a shame it was that either team had to lose.  Cornell clearly earned a lot of respect from Wisconsin fans that day.

And they bought us a LOT of drinks. So at least that came out of it.

I don't remember that.

Which undoubtedly means it's true.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

jkahn

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampySometimes even one classic game can make two schools rivals.

Unfortunately that was not our only classic game against them.

Let's at least add a positive classic to that list:  better classic game
I was one of the very few, I'm sure, that attended all three (me, Mike Teeter and maybe a few more).
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

BearLover

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampySometimes even one classic game can make two schools rivals.

Unfortunately that was not our only classic game against them.
Wow, didn't know about that game!  Didn't think it could get much worse than the 3-OT loss, but it can!  :(

jkahn

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampySometimes even one classic game can make two schools rivals.

Unfortunately that was not our only classic game against them.
Wow, didn't know about that game!  Didn't think it could get much worse than the 3-OT loss, but it can!  :(
That 1973 box score should probably read 19:27 for the final goal, or 9:27 of 5th period, depending on how you look at it.  Back then they switched sides after the 3rd period, played a 10 minute overtime, then switched sides again for the next 10.  Regular season overtime was 10 minutes back then, so they would refer to it as double overtime - but it makes some sense to adjust it if one wants to compare with the way it's done today. To make that game even more painful, we had a 2 on 0 breakaway in the first overtime and didn't score.  I had seats behind the net Cornell was defending during the first overtime, so for that overtime I moved down and stood in a walkway at the other end, as I wanted a better view if we scored and not if they did.  I was back in my seat for that 2nd o't.  One other aside - two years earlier, listening to a hockey game on CBC radio, I had heard an interview with Bert Olmstead (former NHL player), where he mentioned his son was interested in playing college hockey in the states.  I went into Dick Bertrand's office and discussed it with him - and he said he had met Bert once at a clinic and he'd follow up.  I don't know if we ever had a chance at getting Dennis Olmstead, but two years later he was a freshman at Wisconsin and won every damn faceoff in that final minute including the one that set up the equalizer with 5 seconds left.  There are some painful things you never forget.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

TheMatrix

For his efforts, Answer is named the ECAC Goaltender of the Week for the second time in 3 weeks.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampySometimes even one classic game can make two schools rivals.

Unfortunately that was not our only classic game against them.
Wow, didn't know about that game!  Didn't think it could get much worse than the 3-OT loss, but it can!  :(
That 1973 box score should probably read 19:27 for the final goal, or 9:27 of 5th period, depending on how you look at it.  Back then they switched sides after the 3rd period, played a 10 minute overtime, then switched sides again for the next 10.  Regular season overtime was 10 minutes back then, so they would refer to it as double overtime - but it makes some sense to adjust it if one wants to compare with the way it's done today. To make that game even more painful, we had a 2 on 0 breakaway in the first overtime and didn't score.  I had seats behind the net Cornell was defending during the first overtime, so for that overtime I moved down and stood in a walkway at the other end, as I wanted a better view if we scored and not if they did.  I was back in my seat for that 2nd o't.  One other aside - two years earlier, listening to a hockey game on CBC radio, I had heard an interview with Bert Olmstead (former NHL player), where he mentioned his son was interested in playing college hockey in the states.  I went into Dick Bertrand's office and discussed it with him - and he said he had met Bert once at a clinic and he'd follow up.  I don't know if we ever had a chance at getting Dennis Olmstead, but two years later he was a freshman at Wisconsin and won every damn faceoff in that final minute including the one that set up the equalizer with 5 seconds left.  There are some painful things you never forget.
Like a band. For those who don't understand, search eLynah, it's been discussed before. If you can't find it, maybe someone else can post it, or I will once I'm back on a real computer.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jtn27

Getting back to the topic at hand, does anyone know the (I'm assuming recently broken) record for consecutive shut-out minutes at Lynah?
Class of 2013

Give My Regards

Quote from: jtn27Getting back to the topic at hand, does anyone know the (I'm assuming recently broken) record for consecutive shut-out minutes at Lynah?

I doubt there's an official number, but prior to this season no Cornell team had ever had more than two consecutive shutouts at Lynah.  It had happened six times, most recently in 2008-09 when Ben Scrivens put up a 166:11 streak.

If you'd like to step into the WayBack machine, Cornell did once put up a streak of three straight home shutouts, with one in 1907 and two in 1908.  These appear to be the first three games Cornell ever played in Ithaca -- not a bad debut.  The Big Red wouldn't play another game in Ithaca until 1914, and they lost that one 2-0 to Columbia, thus ending the streak at 180+ minutes.
If you lead a good life, go to Sunday school and church, and say your prayers every night, when you die, you'll go to LYNAH!

RichH

Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: jtn27Getting back to the topic at hand, does anyone know the (I'm assuming recently broken) record for consecutive shut-out minutes at Lynah?

I doubt there's an official number, but prior to this season no Cornell team had ever had more than two consecutive shutouts at Lynah.  It had happened six times, most recently in 2008-09 when Ben Scrivens put up a 166:11 streak.

If you'd like to step into the WayBack machine, Cornell did once put up a streak of three straight home shutouts, with one in 1907 and two in 1908.  These appear to be the first three games Cornell ever played in Ithaca -- not a bad debut.  The Big Red wouldn't play another game in Ithaca until 1914, and they lost that one 2-0 to Columbia, thus ending the streak at 180+ minutes.

Assuming that standard 60-minute games were established (and enforced) back then.

Trotsky

Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampySometimes even one classic game can make two schools rivals.

Unfortunately that was not our only classic game against them.
Wow, didn't know about that game!  Didn't think it could get much worse than the 3-OT loss, but it can!  :(
That 1973 box score should probably read 19:27 for the final goal, or 9:27 of 5th period, depending on how you look at it.  Back then they switched sides after the 3rd period, played a 10 minute overtime, then switched sides again for the next 10.  Regular season overtime was 10 minutes back then, so they would refer to it as double overtime - but it makes some sense to adjust it if one wants to compare with the way it's done today. To make that game even more painful, we had a 2 on 0 breakaway in the first overtime and didn't score.  I had seats behind the net Cornell was defending during the first overtime, so for that overtime I moved down and stood in a walkway at the other end, as I wanted a better view if we scored and not if they did.  I was back in my seat for that 2nd o't.  One other aside - two years earlier, listening to a hockey game on CBC radio, I had heard an interview with Bert Olmstead (former NHL player), where he mentioned his son was interested in playing college hockey in the states.  I went into Dick Bertrand's office and discussed it with him - and he said he had met Bert once at a clinic and he'd follow up.  I don't know if we ever had a chance at getting Dennis Olmstead, but two years later he was a freshman at Wisconsin and won every damn faceoff in that final minute including the one that set up the equalizer with 5 seconds left.  There are some painful things you never forget.

That's great info.  Also, I will update the box accordingly - thanks!