Consecutive shutout minutes at Lynah?

Started by margolism, December 03, 2011, 08:29:36 PM

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Johnny 5

Quote from: snert1288I was only watching on Redcast so I couldn't really tell how good Karpowich looked, though from the past I do know he is a first rate goal-tender.  It is worrisome though the scoring slump we've been in recently.  Not every goalie we face can be having his best night.  Karpowich and Milan looked to really be at the top of their game, but SLU and Niagra goalies looked quite average and we only put in 1 on each of them.

As mentioned by the radio commentators almost the entire game looked like a Cornell power play. But, our guys spent much of the time sliding the puck back & forth looking for the perfect shot. Karpo was on his game for sure. But, maybe we just need to just do more spray 'n pray?

Also, I just can't get over, considering their success to date, how little national attention our team is getting. Or, is it just the EZAC curse?

 ::cry::
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Towerroad

Quote from: snert1288It is worrisome though the scoring slump we've been in recently.  Not every goalie we face can be having his best night.  Karpowich and Milan looked to really be at the top of their game, but SLU and Niagra goalies looked quite average and we only put in 1 on each of them.

If you divide the season at Princeton when the shutouts began in the first half we scored 4.1 goals per game vs 2.7 for the opposition. In the second half we have scored 1.6 vs 0.3. The sample is small and imperfect but there seems to be a possible trend where tightening up the defense reduces opportunities to score.

ajh258

Quote from: Johnny 5But, maybe we just need to just do more spray 'n pray?

Also, I just can't get over, considering their success to date, how little national attention our team is getting. Or, is it just the EZAC curse?

 ::cry::

Ya... more spray 'n pray allllways works ::doh::

billhoward

Quote from: snert1288I was only watching on Redcast so I couldn't really tell how good Karpowich looked, though from the past I do know he is a first rate goal-tender.  It is worrisome though the scoring slump we've been in recently.  Not every goalie we face can be having his best night.  Karpowich and Milan looked to really be at the top of their game, but SLU and Niagra goalies looked quite average and we only put in 1 on each of them.
If you recall the material flubber from The Absent-Minded Professor or the 1996 remake, that was the stuffer material inside Paul Karpowich's pads. Rebound after fat rebound shot free. But he played well, too. Cornell definitely held the upper hand except in OT where Clarkson had two odd man rushes back to back along the near boards (for a Redcast viewer). You wouldn't have seen much of them on Recdcast because there's no reverse angle camera. They were unnerving.

upprdeck

I really dont think the lack of scoring is related to the lack of solid chances. We probably had 7-10 times where the puck was sitting in the crease and could not get it to go in.  we missed 4-5 open nets, we had several the goalie didnt see, rebounds miss sticks as well. we had one land on top of the net just over the crossbar.  Clarkson had a few solid chances but it felt like a game where we would score and then get 2-3 more.  it was a 5-1 type game, it was only in OT where clarkson really seemed like they might score. I think we outshot them on their own PPs.

one good thing was it was a game long effort, much better than the starts vs BU/Quin.

jtn27

Quote from: ajh258
Quote from: Johnny 5But, maybe we just need to just do more spray 'n pray?

Also, I just can't get over, considering their success to date, how little national attention our team is getting. Or, is it just the EZAC curse?

 ::cry::

Ya... more spray 'n pray allllways works ::doh::


Spray 'n' pray may not work, but neither does passing it around until a perfect opening presents itself. That perfect opening is not coming. They'll score more goals if they take 10 shots in "good enough" situations than 1 in "perfect" situations. They need to take more shots. Although, there have been some bad breaks the last few games with pucks bouncing off the post (or goals being disallowed).
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Dafatone

Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ajh258
Quote from: Johnny 5But, maybe we just need to just do more spray 'n pray?

Also, I just can't get over, considering their success to date, how little national attention our team is getting. Or, is it just the EZAC curse?

 ::cry::

Ya... more spray 'n pray allllways works ::doh::


Spray 'n' pray may not work, but neither does passing it around until a perfect opening presents itself. That perfect opening is not coming. They'll score more goals if they take 10 shots in "good enough" situations than 1 in "perfect" situations. They need to take more shots. Although, there have been some bad breaks the last few games with pucks bouncing off the post (or goals being disallowed).

It's a question of balance.  Against BU, we were taking way too many bad shots.  We had to have 15+ shots go right off the defender immediately in front of the puck.

Aaron M. Griffin

Quote from: css228...is anyone else incredibly excited for Colgate-Cornell weekend?

My thoughts exactly. It should be an interesting second half of the season.

Other than the current ECAC standings, does anyone else see Colgate as a traditional rival of Cornell on par with the likes of BU and Harvard? Colgate makes a lot of what they think is the Colgate-Cornell rivalry, but while I was on the Hill, I never thought much of our games at Colgate. I felt that Cornell was Colgate's rival, but Colgate was not Cornell's rival. I was curious if other had the same experience.
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2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

css228

Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: css228...is anyone else incredibly excited for Colgate-Cornell weekend?

My thoughts exactly. It should be an interesting second half of the season.

Other than the current ECAC standings, does anyone else see Colgate as a traditional rival of Cornell on par with the likes of BU and Harvard? Colgate makes a lot of what they think is the Colgate-Cornell rivalry, but while I was on the Hill, I never thought much of our games at Colgate. I felt that Cornell was Colgate's rival, but Colgate was not Cornell's rival. I was curious if other had the same experience.
Not really. And judging from last years Colgate-CU attendance at the Prudential Center neither do the rest of the faithful. I see them as a team we dislike, but not on a par with BU and Harvard, or even Clarkson. Maybe if their fan base was more passionate (e.g. Clarkson's) and traveled to our barn, or filled their own for any game other than Cornell, they'd be a bigger deal. The travel partner thing also has something to do with it.I enjoy beating them, but I also see the benefit of a good travel partner, so its better to see them near the top of the standings with us than where they spent last year. Primary reason I'm excited is both teams are playing great hockey.

But no there's not the same unconditional disdain.

jtn27

Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: css228...is anyone else incredibly excited for Colgate-Cornell weekend?

My thoughts exactly. It should be an interesting second half of the season.

Other than the current ECAC standings, does anyone else see Colgate as a traditional rival of Cornell on par with the likes of BU and Harvard? Colgate makes a lot of what they think is the Colgate-Cornell rivalry, but while I was on the Hill, I never thought much of our games at Colgate. I felt that Cornell was Colgate's rival, but Colgate was not Cornell's rival. I was curious if other had the same experience.

I feel like Colgate is somewhat ignored except when they're playing well. I kind of think that they have an inferiority complex when it comes to Cornell and we just ignore them. After my freshman year (I'm a junior now), I was talking to some distant relative at a family reunion whose daughter goes to Colgate. He asked me about the Cornell-Colgate "rivalry" and I told him "Actually, our bigger rivalry is with Harvard" and he replied "Oh, don't tell the Colgate kids that."
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Rosey

Quote from: jtn27He asked me about the Cornell-Colgate "rivalry" and I told him "Actually, our bigger rivalry is with Harvard" and he replied "Oh, don't tell the Colgate kids that."
It's sort of like how Harvard is Cornell's biggest rival, but Harvard students in general don't recognize that Cornell exists. A lot of "rivalries" are one-sided.
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Also that quote doesn't exclude the possibility that more than one goaltender may have been involved.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

Aaron M. Griffin

I think that the Colgate-Cornell rivalry is one-sided. I have a friend from Upstate who is not a Cornellian but who follows college hockey, and she was shocked that Colgate considers itself a rival of ours. Colgate fans seem convinced that we care. I think that we might be forced to care this year with the fact that Cornell and Colgate have taken a formidable lead in the ECAC standings during the first half of the season.

As for the Cornell-Harvard rivalry, I think that it was one-sided at one time, with Cornell caring more than Harvard, but I think that has changed recently. My senior year The Harvard Crimson ran an article stating that the Cornell-Harvard rivalry has surpassed the Harvard-Yale rivalry in terms of Harvard fan dedication and emotional investment.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

css228

Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinI think that the Colgate-Cornell rivalry is one-sided. I have a friend from Upstate who is not a Cornellian but who follows college hockey, and she was shocked that Colgate considers itself a rival of ours. Colgate fans seem convinced that we care. I think that we might be forced to care this year with the fact that Cornell and Colgate have taken a formidable lead in the ECAC standings during the first half of the season.

As for the Cornell-Harvard rivalry, I think that it was one-sided at one time, with Cornell caring more than Harvard, but I think that has changed recently. My senior year The Harvard Crimson ran an article stating that the Cornell-Harvard rivalry has surpassed the Harvard-Yale rivalry in terms of Harvard fan dedication and emotional investment.
Maybe they're being mislead by the toothpaste boxes we throw on the ice when they come here. That seems like something a "rival" would do.

Aaron M. Griffin

Quote from: css228Maybe they're being mislead by the toothpaste boxes we throw on the ice when they come here. That seems like something a "rival" would do.

Don't they throw Big Red gum at us when we play at Starr? I've never been to a game up there, but I have heard they do that. Now, I thought that the toothpaste was for some suggestive clues about dental hygiene for their team. We really shouldn't encourage them. That's why they produce laughable videos like this.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0