National Collegiate Hockey Conference

[Aaron M. Griffin]

I would be fine with that. Their coverage is not bad either. Our options are dwindling. On a self-interested note, Time Warner Cable Sports seems more preoccupied with schools that pay them.

FYP

Still begs the question why isn't Cornell the one paying them.

[Ben]

TV deals do not work on the long tail because broadcasting consumes a lot of limited resources and so relies on large-scale viewership to be profitable. Cornell hockey, and the ECAC in general, are way out on the tail. The only reason why big college football teams, for instance, get TV deals is that there are lots of people who want to watch: their viewers include lots of people who didn't go to said schools, for instance. The same isn't going to be true of ECAC hockey in any likely future.

Please, for the love of whatever god you worship, if you're going to expend any effort on this, stick to what's possible. For the foreseeable future, that is internet streaming.

But doesn't winning The Battle of Roosevelt Island mean that we will be THE college sports team for New York? Right? Right?

[jtwcornell91]

http://www.denverpioneers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18600&ATCLID=205371533

More evidence that CBS Sports and NBC Sports think that there is a market for college hockey? Seems that the ECAC is going to be left out. B1G Hockey will have BTN. NCHC will have CBS Sports. Notre Dame and HEA will have NBC Sports.

Time Warner Cable Sports anybody?

::yark::

There's a little less self-interest involved for me now that I'm in Rochester, and can actually get TWCS (although it's the Rochester feed that generally has RIT and Amerks games rather than Colgate/Union/ECAC), but Time Warner Cable Sports has the huge disadvantage that it's not available on DirecTV or Dish, and is therefore useless to alumni in other parts of the country, as opposed to BTN, CBSSN, NBCSN and the regional Foxes.  OTOH, video streaming would be accessable to almuni everywhere, especially if it's not blacked out by country.

Semi-OT, shouldn't cable systems pushing their own TV networks, like YNN and TWCS, be seen as some sort of anti-trust violation?

[ugarte]

Semi-OT, shouldn't cable systems pushing their own TV networks, like YNN and TWCS, be seen as some sort of anti-trust violation?

The independent networks think so! Whether it is a violation depends on how the cable systems prioritize the proprietary stations. Cablevision gives the stations it owns better spots on the dial, but it isn't like they bump the big 4 down the dial, which isn't necessarily unreasonable. It negotiates arm's-length contracts for carriage of stations they don't own.

NFL Network charges way too much per customer and demands to be on a widely accessible tier so that the charge is passed on to more people. Not surprisingly, they don't have as much market penetration as they want. ESPN is too big for Cablevision to play the same kind of hardball with but I don't get ESPNU in Brooklyn, so there is a limit to the weight they can throw around.

[css228]

Semi-OT, shouldn't cable systems pushing their own TV networks, like YNN and TWCS, be seen as some sort of anti-trust violation?

Given Comcast owns NBC Universal and pushes all of its various other channels (now including MSNBC, CNBC, USA, NBCSN, TCN, and your local CSN if there aren't more) then I think what TWCS would be a relatively mild offender.

[Scersk '97]

At JTW's request, I'll repost my final map, now tucked away on eLynah's server:



Revised to place a dot for Maine.

[Trotsky]

At JTW's request, I'll repost my final map, now tucked away on eLynah's server

Does Maine have a dot?

[Scersk '97]

At JTW's request, I'll repost my final map, now tucked away on eLynah's server

Does Maine have a dot?

I don't know, but they sure do build a lot of roads!  [rimshot]

I might have erased it somehow, but I'm too lazy to fix it.

EDIT:  There, I unlazified myself above.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

UConn continues its attempt to gain membership in Hockey East.

Hockey East officials are taking a site visit today at the University of Connecticut, and are also expected to visit Hartford's XL Center, sources told CHN.

UConn does not currently meet Hockey East standards in two way — its arena is too small, and it does not offer any athletic scholarships for hockey.

Sources indicate, however, that UConn officials are committed to upgrading the program, with details still to be worked out, and will soon formally apply to Hockey East. The main sticking point is over where will the Huskies play.

A new rink, scholarships, and probably an interim period of playing 26 miles off campus? UConn wants desperately to be a member of Hockey East.

[css228]

UConn continues its attempt to gain membership in Hockey East.

Hockey East officials are taking a site visit today at the University of Connecticut, and are also expected to visit Hartford's XL Center, sources told CHN.

UConn does not currently meet Hockey East standards in two way — its arena is too small, and it does not offer any athletic scholarships for hockey.

Sources indicate, however, that UConn officials are committed to upgrading the program, with details still to be worked out, and will soon formally apply to Hockey East. The main sticking point is over where will the Huskies play.

A new rink, scholarships, and probably an interim period of playing 26 miles off campus? UConn wants desperately to be a member of Hockey East.

Well that pretty much ends any and all discussions of RPI or QPac leaving. I only regret that we can't gain a school with almost 15,000 students more than any of the others. RIT would have been a great fit for ECAC Hockey. Please tell me theres a way to kick out Brown.

[RichH]

UConn continues its attempt to gain membership in Hockey East.

Hockey East officials are taking a site visit today at the University of Connecticut, and are also expected to visit Hartford's XL Center, sources told CHN.

UConn does not currently meet Hockey East standards in two way — its arena is too small, and it does not offer any athletic scholarships for hockey.

Sources indicate, however, that UConn officials are committed to upgrading the program, with details still to be worked out, and will soon formally apply to Hockey East. The main sticking point is over where will the Huskies play.

A new rink, scholarships, and probably an interim period of playing 26 miles off campus? UConn wants desperately to be a member of Hockey East.

I'd say it goes both ways.  IIRC, Hockey East instigated the strong nudging that they would want UConn to upgrade the program, given that they would complete the large New England state school set for HEA. Without that encouragement from the league, and probable spelling out of revenue considerations, I don't think there would have been any moves made by UConn's administration.

And it's not unusual for UConn teams to play home games outside of Storrs.  Rentschler Field in East Hartford is home to UConn football, 22 miles from campus, and the XL Center hosts about half of both the men's and women's home basketball games.  This is despite the fact that Gampel Pavilion on campus holds over 10,000.

Personally, I'd be upset if I were a UConn student interested in one of those sports and be forced to travel that far to see my teams play home games.  I've been to a basketball game at the XL Center in Hartford and it was a surprisingly older demographic than I expected to see, and nothing special was afforded what little student section there was.  On the other hand, maybe undergrads are excited to get out of Storrs, which consists of the campus and a small strip mall.

I can't really comment on the current atmosphere at UConn hockey games, because I've never been drawn to head there to check them out, especially when I'm often traveling in the region for Cornell games.

I believe the XL Center (nee Hartford Civic Center) was used a few years back for Quinnipiac's inaugural game for the ECAC.   Indeed, they did.  Gordie Howe dropped the ceremonial puck: http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2005/11/6/quinnipiac-takes-first-ecac-game-hartford/ 5000 showed for that.

[Jim Hyla]

UConn continues its attempt to gain membership in Hockey East.

Hockey East officials are taking a site visit today at the University of Connecticut, and are also expected to visit Hartford's XL Center, sources told CHN.

UConn does not currently meet Hockey East standards in two way — its arena is too small, and it does not offer any athletic scholarships for hockey.

Sources indicate, however, that UConn officials are committed to upgrading the program, with details still to be worked out, and will soon formally apply to Hockey East. The main sticking point is over where will the Huskies play.

A new rink, scholarships, and probably an interim period of playing 26 miles off campus? UConn wants desperately to be a member of Hockey East.

I'd say it goes both ways.  IIRC, Hockey East instigated the strong nudging that they would want UConn to upgrade the program, given that they would complete the large New England state school set for HEA. Without that encouragement from the league, and probable spelling out of revenue considerations, I don't think there would have been any moves made by UConn's administration.

And it's not unusual for UConn teams to play home games outside of Storrs.  Rentschler Field in East Hartford is home to UConn football, 22 miles from campus, and the XL Center hosts about half of both the men's and women's home basketball games.  This is despite the fact that Gampel Pavilion on campus holds over 10,000.

Personally, I'd be upset if I were a UConn student interested in one of those sports and be forced to travel that far to see my teams play home games.  I've been to a basketball game at the XL Center in Hartford and it was a surprisingly older demographic than I expected to see, and nothing special was afforded what little student section there was.  On the other hand, maybe undergrads are excited to get out of Storrs, which consists of the campus and a small strip mall.

I can't really comment on the current atmosphere at UConn hockey games, because I've never been drawn to head there to check them out, especially when I'm often traveling in the region for Cornell games.

I believe the XL Center (nee Hartford Civic Center) was used a few years back for Quinnipiac's inaugural game for the ECAC.   Indeed, they did.  Gordie Howe dropped the ceremonial puck: http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2005/11/6/quinnipiac-takes-first-ecac-game-hartford/ 5000 showed for that.

Wow, I've never been to UConn, it really is in nowhere land. As a student I don't think I'd like it there. What happens if you don't have a car?

[jtn27]

Wow, I've never been to UConn, it really is in nowhere land. As a student I don't think I'd like it there. What happens if you don't have a car?

Probably the same thing that happens if you don't have a car at Cornell. You're stuck on campus unless you're willing to take a bus downtown or to New York.

[Jim Hyla]

Wow, I've never been to UConn, it really is in nowhere land. As a student I don't think I'd like it there. What happens if you don't have a car?

Probably the same thing that happens if you don't have a car at Cornell. You're stuck on campus unless you're willing to take a bus downtown or to New York.

Wait, wait, wait. When I was a freshman, with the emphasis on when, we walked downtown. There were 4 movie theatres. They were the near-near, the far-near, the near-far, and the far-far. We walked to all, weather permitting. I don't know what's happening to the younger generation.::panic::

[css228]

Wow, I've never been to UConn, it really is in nowhere land. As a student I don't think I'd like it there. What happens if you don't have a car?

Probably the same thing that happens if you don't have a car at Cornell. You're stuck on campus unless you're willing to take a bus downtown or to New York.

Wait, wait, wait. When I was a freshman, with the emphasis on when, we walked downtown. There were 4 movie theatres. They were the near-near, the far-near, the near-far, and the far-far. We walked to all, weather permitting. I don't know what's happening to the younger generation.::panic::

Well the gorge trail to the commons which makes it enjoyable to do that walk is closed so that might have something to do with it.