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[css228]

If you were to walk that distance in Philly, you'd be shot.

I was going to object to this, but its probably true for any of the universities in Philly given how all five of them are located in or on the edge of bad neighborhoods. I mean from St. Joe's (school that Harvard rented a pep band from) I guess you can basically walk into the suburbs but in general your rule holds. Speaking of long walks, the house where Hobey Baker grew up is in the general neighborhood.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

Remember, I graduated with the first NCAA championship. In my home town, to beat. We had quite a crowd at my parents house that weekend.

You're an Upstate New Yorker? (Well, Central New Yorker to be more specific).

[ACM]

Well the gorge trail to the commons which makes it enjoyable to do that walk is closed so that might have something to do with it.

When did they close the gorge trail?  Is it permanent?

A few years back. I think they're trying to get it reopened this summer.

Yeah but I thought I heard they ran out of money  for that.

No. In fact, I'm in the process of writing an article about this for tomorrow's Sun write now (I'm procrastinating).

As of March 20, the Cascadilla Gorge trail is open from downtown as far as Stewart Avenue. The section between Stewart Avenue and Collegetown is still under repair.

And Fall Creek Pictures merged with Cinemapolis several years ago, and is now closed.

[bnr24]

If you were to walk that distance in Philly, you'd be shot.

I was going to object to this, but its probably true for any of the universities in Philly given how all five of them are located in or on the edge of bad neighborhoods. I mean from St. Joe's (school that Harvard rented a pep band from) I guess you can basically walk into the suburbs but in general your rule holds. Speaking of long walks, the house where Hobey Baker grew up is in the general neighborhood.

Yeah, I really shouldn't complain as I'm in Center City (literally a block or two from City Hall), but if I ever want to walk at night, I can't go alone (not an issue I had at Cornell...).  And given that the closest movie theatre to me is a good 40 minute walk away either way (it was around that long, wasn't it Aaron??), I am paranoid about getting shot whenever I walk after dark, especially getting the wonderful "shooting and robbery on this street.  avoid" texts.

Ooooh, where's Hobey Baker's house???

[css228]

If you were to walk that distance in Philly, you'd be shot.

I was going to object to this, but its probably true for any of the universities in Philly given how all five of them are located in or on the edge of bad neighborhoods. I mean from St. Joe's (school that Harvard rented a pep band from) I guess you can basically walk into the suburbs but in general your rule holds. Speaking of long walks, the house where Hobey Baker grew up is in the general neighborhood.

Yeah, I really shouldn't complain as I'm in Center City (literally a block or two from City Hall), but if I ever want to walk at night, I can't go alone (not an issue I had at Cornell...).  And given that the closest movie theatre to me is a good 40 minute walk away either way (it was around that long, wasn't it Aaron??), I am paranoid about getting shot whenever I walk after dark, especially getting the wonderful "shooting and robbery on this street.  avoid" texts.

Ooooh, where's Hobey Baker's house???

Bala Cynwyd, but its a law office now. Also technically its just the facade, they knocked down the back part before local officials made them stop. Still pretty cool though.

[bnr24]

If you were to walk that distance in Philly, you'd be shot.

I was going to object to this, but its probably true for any of the universities in Philly given how all five of them are located in or on the edge of bad neighborhoods. I mean from St. Joe's (school that Harvard rented a pep band from) I guess you can basically walk into the suburbs but in general your rule holds. Speaking of long walks, the house where Hobey Baker grew up is in the general neighborhood.

Yeah, I really shouldn't complain as I'm in Center City (literally a block or two from City Hall), but if I ever want to walk at night, I can't go alone (not an issue I had at Cornell...).  And given that the closest movie theatre to me is a good 40 minute walk away either way (it was around that long, wasn't it Aaron??), I am paranoid about getting shot whenever I walk after dark, especially getting the wonderful "shooting and robbery on this street.  avoid" texts.

Ooooh, where's Hobey Baker's house???

Bala Cynwyd, but its a law office now. Also technically its just the facade, they knocked down the back part before local officials made them stop. Still pretty cool though.

Hmmmmm.  Perhaps if I ever make someone go get an excellent cheesesteak with me in Bala Cynwyd (my favorite is there.), I'll drag him to see it as well.

[Jim Hyla]

Remember, I graduated with the first NCAA championship. In my home town, to beat. We had quite a crowd at my parents house that weekend.

You're an Upstate New Yorker? (Well, Central New Yorker to be more specific).

Sure, Syracuse. Still am.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

Remember, I graduated with the first NCAA championship. In my home town, to beat. We had quite a crowd at my parents house that weekend.

You're an Upstate New Yorker? (Well, Central New Yorker to be more specific).

Sure, Syracuse. Still am.

There were far too few of us on the Hill during my time there. I'm from the Southern Tier. Even though ~1/3 of the students on campus are New Yorkers, only a small percentage were from the Upstate region(s).

[Scersk '97]

If you were to walk that distance in Philly, you'd be shot.

I was going to object to this, but its probably true for any of the universities in Philly given how all five of them are located in or on the edge of bad neighborhoods. I mean from St. Joe's (school that Harvard rented a pep band from) I guess you can basically walk into the suburbs but in general your rule holds. Speaking of long walks, the house where Hobey Baker grew up is in the general neighborhood.

Yeah, I really shouldn't complain as I'm in Center City (literally a block or two from City Hall), but if I ever want to walk at night, I can't go alone (not an issue I had at Cornell...).  And given that the closest movie theatre to me is a good 40 minute walk away either way (it was around that long, wasn't it Aaron??), I am paranoid about getting shot whenever I walk after dark, especially getting the wonderful "shooting and robbery on this street.  avoid" texts.

Ooooh, where's Hobey Baker's house???

Bah, don't be a ninny.  Take a look at the interactive homicide maps put out by the Inquirer.  Center City and University City are laughably safe...  for a large city.  And never forget that Philly is a large city, heavily built up, where conditions change block-to-block.  In West Philly, there are some unfortunate areas just north of Drexel between it and Powellton Village, and I wouldn't hang out between Market and Lancaster or south of Baltimore much after dark, but generally you're fine all the way out to 50th or so.

We lived in East Falls (northeast, toward Manayunk) for a year and a half, on the edge of a not-so-nice area (Swampoodle, if you must know), but the neighborhood was quiet as a church mouse.  As with any large city, Philly has nice neighborhoods and dangerous neighborhoods.  Take off your flak jacket and walk around a bit.

[css228]

If you were to walk that distance in Philly, you'd be shot.

I was going to object to this, but its probably true for any of the universities in Philly given how all five of them are located in or on the edge of bad neighborhoods. I mean from St. Joe's (school that Harvard rented a pep band from) I guess you can basically walk into the suburbs but in general your rule holds. Speaking of long walks, the house where Hobey Baker grew up is in the general neighborhood.

Yeah, I really shouldn't complain as I'm in Center City (literally a block or two from City Hall), but if I ever want to walk at night, I can't go alone (not an issue I had at Cornell...).  And given that the closest movie theatre to me is a good 40 minute walk away either way (it was around that long, wasn't it Aaron??), I am paranoid about getting shot whenever I walk after dark, especially getting the wonderful "shooting and robbery on this street.  avoid" texts.

Ooooh, where's Hobey Baker's house???

Bah, don't be a ninny.  Take a look at the interactive homicide maps put out by the Inquirer.  Center City and University City are laughably safe...  for a large city.  And never forget that Philly is a large city, heavily built up, where conditions change block-to-block.  In West Philly, there are some unfortunate areas just north of Drexel between it and Powellton Village, and I wouldn't hang out between Market and Lancaster or south of Baltimore much after dark, but generally you're fine all the way out to 50th or so.

We lived in East Falls (northeast, toward Manayunk) for a year and a half, on the edge of a not-so-nice area (Swampoodle, if you must know), but the neighborhood was quiet as a church mouse.  As with any large city, Philly has nice neighborhoods and dangerous neighborhoods.  Take off your flak jacket and walk around a bit.

Those were the areas (Mantua, etc.) that I was referring to. Center City is actually quite safe. I had no clue where he lived when he made that comment, and thus assumed he might be somewhere up around Temple or La Salle.Also I thought the general rule was around 45th you should probably start heading back to Penn.

[Scersk '97]

Those were the areas (Mantua, etc.) that I was referring to. Center City is actually quite safe. I had no clue where he lived when he made that comment, and thus assumed he might be somewhere up around Temple or La Salle.Also I thought the general rule was around 45th you should probably start heading back to Penn.

Well, Mantua is actually a bit to the north of Powelton Village, which is the neighborhood directly north of Drexel, but I can understand the confusion because I was confused about it at one point or another.  The area around Temple, particularly to the east and north, is indeed a bit dicey but getting better by the day.  And the area around La Salle is also a bit of a conundrum, but then all of Germantown and why it is the way it is is a conundrum.

45th is fine, 46th and Pine is in fact one of our "dream corners" for owning half of a twin, and 47th is fine.  48th is where it maybe starts to change, but I truly think you're safe to 50th, at least north of Baltimore.  52nd is definitely a problem area, and will be for some time, I reckon.

All that being said, my general rule was (is?) to go to Local 44, sit down, and not even think about moving for at least a couple of hours.  The only turning around I ever did there was to stare at the chalked beer list.

And now I live in Princeton...  don't get me started.

[David Harding]

I grew up on Eddy Street and graduated from Ithaca High with Larry.  Our family was buying shoes from Fontana's well before the current generation was born.  It was about 5th or 6th grade that I started walking downtown to the movies or shopping at Rothschild's Department Store.  Junior High School was in what is now the DeWitt Mall, so that was daily trip down and up Seneca Street.  Moosewood now occupies the wood shop and a small gym space.  Ithaca High School, at the foot of Ithaca Falls, was a longer walk every day (with portions uphill both ways).  No big deal.

[css228]

all of Germantown and why it is the way it is is a conundrum.

This - let's just say it's a dramatically safer city than it was when I was just entering high school.

[jtn27]

And now I live in Princeton...  don't get me started.

Watch out for those Princeton gangstas. They might scoff at you for not being in an exclusive eating club.

[Robb]

I grew up on Eddy Street and graduated from Ithaca High with Larry.  Our family was buying shoes from Fontana's well before the current generation was born.  It was about 5th or 6th grade that I started walking downtown to the movies or shopping at Rothschild's Department Store.  Junior High School was in what is now the DeWitt Mall, so that was daily trip down and up Seneca Street.  Moosewood now occupies the wood shop and a small gym space.  Ithaca High School, at the foot of Ithaca Falls, was a longer walk every day (with portions uphill both ways).  No big deal.

My grandmother grew up just on the campus side of the Beebe Lake bridge (near the Plantations and Forest Home).  When she was in middle school (early 1930s), she walked downtown and back every day carrying her violin.  No big deal.