CCM Cornell hockey cap?

CU at Stanford · February 23, 2003, 08:58:54 PM

Guys, I seem to recall, several years ago, there was a way to purchase CCM practice caps with Cornell embroidery. Is this still possible? Appreciate any info anyone has. ::help::

cquinn · February 23, 2003, 09:25:28 PM

The Rink, a community skating rink on East Shore Drive in Ithaca, used to have them. I stopped by when I was in town a couple of weekends back but the store there is apparently closed on Saturdays. I saw some Ithaca CCM hats on a wall display in the back, but no Cornell hats. The phone number is 607-277-7465. I would like one and I know Age was looking to replace his. If The Rink doesn't have them in stock, maybe we've got enough interest to convince them to order a few.

Mike Hedrick 01 · February 23, 2003, 09:36:53 PM

In my quest to find such a hat during my junior or senior year, I called that store and later CCM. CCM told me they had stopped making Cornell hats. The store just told me they didn't have any.

I do recall talking to one person who found one in an airport giftshop in Minnesota, as strange as that sounds. Otherwise, I think we'd have to convince CCM to resume production. ;-)

CU at Stanford · February 23, 2003, 10:12:12 PM

Well, believe it or not, I talked to a player on the Stanford club ice hockey team the other day, because he was sporting a CCM Stanford hockey cap. He said the cap was not for sale (only team members have them), but the team was considering making the caps available for purchase. Imagine that! Maybe we SHOULD start a "write-in" campaign to have some Cornell caps available, especially when we have had such a great season so far.

Cop at Lynah · February 24, 2003, 05:49:20 AM

Earlier this season the hockey office was selling some baseball hats. They were not CCM (but the overall design looks very similiar). They came in two colors - black or red. I don't know if there are any left, but if interested call Sue Dettzer at the hockey office to find out.

jason · February 25, 2003, 10:10:39 AM

The Cornell CCM caps I have I ordered years ago, haven't seen any since. When I played on NYU's club team, we ordered CCM caps for the team from some hockey shop at a rink in CT, unfortunately I don't recall the name. Assuming that someone could track down a hockey shop that processes these orders, the questions would be: What is the minimum quantity that has to be ordered? How do we get past the trademark issue? (The team decided to go with "New York" on the caps instead of "NYU", so it was never an issue.)

Lowell '99 · February 25, 2003, 11:35:58 AM

If you're just getting the word "Cornell" on the hat without any disparaging remarks about anyone, I'd imagine the Day Hall folks wouldn't have any problem with approving them.

nyc94 · February 25, 2003, 11:48:32 AM

as opposed to my "Harvard Sucks" hat.

jason · February 25, 2003, 11:54:07 AM

From CCM's website:
[q]We do have a CCM Custom Apparel and Cap Program. If you visit your local CCM dealer they can fill you in the on the details of the many options available along with the minimum quantities required.[/q]
And according to the site, both Dick's and Klein's in Ithaca are CCM dealers.

ugarte · February 25, 2003, 11:54:18 AM

Thanks for the guess, Lowell. Does that actually count as trademark/copyright law advice? :-(

Sorry about the sarcasm, but if you don't know, why would you guess out loud? If the Harvard t-shirt experience taught us anything, it was that the institution will not say anything useful, and force you to take your chances.

If you think you can fly under the radar, Godspeed, but don't come here looking for trademark advice. And if you don't have any advice to give, please don't give out guesses. They are a lot more potentially harmful than they are helpful.

jkahn · February 25, 2003, 12:48:38 PM

I purchased a couple of the CCM Cornell Hockey hats in May 1999 over the 'net. It was through a store somewhere in New York State I think. I had gotten the lead on where to buy them on the old Cornell Hockey Discussion Forum. I had bookmarked the order tracking page, which was at www.prowebwear.com. Unfortunately, that site no longer seems to be functioning, but perhaps if Pro Webwear merged with some other site, a new source could be tracked down.

atb9 · February 25, 2003, 01:00:12 PM

Yikes. Granted there has been bad experiences with Hockey Cam but I would like to think that Cornell will treat their own a little better than Harvard administrators treated rival fans trying to make an anti-Harvard shirt, especially if the hat is made in good faith without disparaging features. Some may call that a guess but I'm one of those guys that still has faith in our institution.

cquinn · February 25, 2003, 01:39:56 PM

This also isn't the first time someone will be asking permission to use "Cornell" on these hats. Assuming somebody had to ask the first time.

Does someone in Ithaca want to volunteer to contact Dick's or Klein's?

ugarte · February 25, 2003, 02:06:35 PM

You are answering the wrong question, Adam. The question isn't "Will Cornell license its name to someone to make Cornell hats?" The question is "Can I make Cornell hats without permission without getting a nasty letter from the Cornell legal department?"

I don't know the answer to either question, but unless you do know the answer, why guess?

atb9 · February 25, 2003, 02:36:52 PM

I don't know the answer to either question, but unless you do know the answer, why guess?

Before I came to Cornell, I thought that guessing or partial credit meant that people may die in engineering situations. Since I've been at Cornell, I've been taught that guessing or partial credit is always better than no credit! ;-)