Younger Fiore's IHS Lax Games now being broadcast

[Trigger]

If you can't get down to Moresco Field at Ithaca High School for the remainder of the lacrosse season, all the games will be broadcast live on 1160espn.com starting with tonight's regular season finale against rival Corning. Tonight is internet only - the rest should be on local radio - 1160am - as well.

Adam Fiore, AJ's younger brother and a Junior at IHS, leads the team with 52 points (34-18) and as of recently, was #4 in Section IV in points per game (3.. This team is really good, and very under-rated. A legit state contender, despite being unranked right now.

[Swampy]

If you can't get down to Moresco Field at Ithaca High School for the remainder of the lacrosse season, all the games will be broadcast live on 1160espn.com starting with tonight's regular season finale against rival Corning. Tonight is internet only - the rest should be on local radio - 1160am - as well.

Adam Fiore, AJ's younger brother and a Junior at IHS, leads the team with 52 points (34-18) and as of recently, was #4 in Section IV in points per game (3.. This team is really good, and very under-rated. A legit state contender, despite being unranked right now.

Maybe we will have better luck recruiting him than the younger Pannell, who's heading for UVa. (Hopefully we'll be able to watch Rob play his little brother next year, but we have some unfinished business with UVa this year.) ::starwars::

[scoop85]

If you can't get down to Moresco Field at Ithaca High School for the remainder of the lacrosse season, all the games will be broadcast live on 1160espn.com starting with tonight's regular season finale against rival Corning. Tonight is internet only - the rest should be on local radio - 1160am - as well.

Adam Fiore, AJ's younger brother and a Junior at IHS, leads the team with 52 points (34-18) and as of recently, was #4 in Section IV in points per game (3.. This team is really good, and very under-rated. A legit state contender, despite being unranked right now.

Maybe we will have better luck recruiting him than the younger Pannell, who's heading for UVa. (Hopefully we'll be able to watch Rob play his little brother next year, but we have some unfinished business with UVa this year.) ::starwars::

No we won't -- younger Pannell is only a junior.

[Swampy]

If you can't get down to Moresco Field at Ithaca High School for the remainder of the lacrosse season, all the games will be broadcast live on 1160espn.com starting with tonight's regular season finale against rival Corning. Tonight is internet only - the rest should be on local radio - 1160am - as well.

Adam Fiore, AJ's younger brother and a Junior at IHS, leads the team with 52 points (34-18) and as of recently, was #4 in Section IV in points per game (3.. This team is really good, and very under-rated. A legit state contender, despite being unranked right now.

Maybe we will have better luck recruiting him than the younger Pannell, who's heading for UVa. (Hopefully we'll be able to watch Rob play his little brother next yearthe year after next, but we have some unfinished business with UVa this year.) ::starwars::

No we won't -- younger Pannell is only a junior.

Sorry, my mistake. I fixed my post. Big deal. I was off by a year!

Since Rob is a Sophomore (search the page for Pannell), the match-up will come the year after next.::starwars:: (This should make Ben happy.)

[ithacat]

If you can't get down to Moresco Field at Ithaca High School for the remainder of the lacrosse season, all the games will be broadcast live on 1160espn.com starting with tonight's regular season finale against rival Corning. Tonight is internet only - the rest should be on local radio - 1160am - as well.

Adam Fiore, AJ's younger brother and a Junior at IHS, leads the team with 52 points (34-18) and as of recently, was #4 in Section IV in points per game (3.. This team is really good, and very under-rated. A legit state contender, despite being unranked right now.

Team is ranked 7th by laxpower (29th nationally). The weak schedule might kill them come playoff time. They've got 3 D1 seniors and probably another 4-5 among sophomores and juniors (Fiore, Ciferri, Lasda, Mendola, Henderson). Unfortunately, it sounds like Cornell might whiff on all of them -- Fiore the younger might be their best chance.

[Josh '99]

Since Rob is a Sophomore (search the page for Pannell), the match-up will come the year after next.::starwars:: (This should make Ben happy.)

If only.

[Redscore]

If you can't get down to Moresco Field at Ithaca High School for the remainder of the lacrosse season, all the games will be broadcast live on 1160espn.com starting with tonight's regular season finale against rival Corning. Tonight is internet only - the rest should be on local radio - 1160am - as well.

Adam Fiore, AJ's younger brother and a Junior at IHS, leads the team with 52 points (34-18) and as of recently, was #4 in Section IV in points per game (3.. This team is really good, and very under-rated. A legit state contender, despite being unranked right now.

Team is ranked 7th by laxpower (29th nationally). The weak schedule might kill them come playoff time. They've got 3 D1 seniors and probably another 4-5 among sophomores and juniors (Fiore, Ciferri, Lasda, Mendola, Henderson). Unfortunately, it sounds like Cornell might whiff on all of them -- Fiore the younger might be their best chance.

Why might Cornell whiff on all of them?  Don't we at some point in time have to find a way to convert all of this high level of success, not to mention incredible tradition, into some sort of recruiting power?

I think the coaching staff have done an incredible job pulling in that slightly lower ranked recruit and either identifying the gem that others missed, or developing some of those players into stars over four years, but isn't this an incredibly hard way to ensure consistent success at the final four level, which is where we have been for the past few years?  It feels like this should work well enough to run a very, maybe even two verys, succesful program, but can it keep us at at the level we have been at recently?   It's hard to uncover a Rob Pannell more than once in a decade? lifetime?  We may have been great at working on Rob's recruitment but I'm sure we were also really lucky.  We have a great team which is clearly more than just Rob Pannell, but its hard to imagine that we would be challenging for the final four spot this weekend without him.  How do we get that player at the top 50 level, not neccesarily in the top 5, consistently?  I know we got Max, who was a top 5 recruit, but consistently?  I'm not saying rankings by Inside Lacrosse, or whoever else, mean a whole lot, but I think there is a good sense for who the blue chips are and we don't seem to be in the running for those players.

Can we hope to convert this tremendous success, thank you to all associated with the program, to recruiting wins as well?  Or do people think the way we do it is just fine and can continue to keep us at the elite level?  Or should we just expect that we will always be a great program who will occassionaly find itself at the elite level?  I'm not complaining at all, just wondering aloud.  I'm actually a very happy camper today.

[ugarte]

Why might Cornell whiff on all of them?  Don't we at some point in time have to find a way to convert all of this high level of success, not to mention incredible tradition, into some sort of recruiting power?

Who says that it's "whiffing"? Maybe the Cornell staff is recruiting who they think are the best players (and the best fit to scheme), not the guys who the scouting services like the best. To import a hockey joke, the "roll players" we bring in are doing as well as the blue-chippers we're apparently whiffing on.

Also, Ithaca weather sucks and we don't give scholarships.

[Redscore]

I only used the word whiff because the post I was responding to implied that it was a whiff and I understand the fit versus scouting service hype.  It sounds like you are saying - it works as is and we can continue at this level the way we are doing it.  I hope so but I can't help feeling that Rob Pannell didn't arrive here because of that approach.

[Al DeFlorio]

I hope so but I can't help feeling that Rob Pannell didn't arrive here because of that approach.

You make it sound like changing Cornell's "approach" is an independent variable.  

Cornell recruits within the constraints of its Ivy League academic standards, its Ivy League financial aid constraints, its rigorous academic curricula (no communications or sports management programs), and its northern, relative-to-Virginia-and-Carolina-and-Maryland rather harsh climate.  I'm sure Cornell coaches don't look upon a top 5 blue chipper and say "to hell with him--that's not our approach--we'd rather find a possible hidden gem in Bangor and hope for the best."

[Beeeej]

its rigorous academic curricula (no communications... programs)

Um, what?

[Redscore]

I was just wondering if such high level success can result in attracting at least some SU and Virginia level like talent.  As you said, we would take them if we could, right?  I understand all this "rigorous curricula", "aid-constraint", "scholarship" stuff.
I guess the real answer is, Who in the world would want to come here if they read some of this stuff.  My post included.
Boy am I sorry I asked.

[Al DeFlorio]

its rigorous academic curricula (no communications... programs)

Um, what?

Give me a break, Beeeej.  I worked as closely with Geri Gay, now chair of the department, as with anyone at Cornell during my professional career in the 1980s.  I mean the kind of communications programs that turn out the Lowell Galindos of the world, not one that looks at communication as a social science.

[Beeeej]

its rigorous academic curricula (no communications... programs)

Um, what?

Give me a break, Beeeej.  I worked as closely with Geri Gay, now chair of the department, as with anyone at Cornell during my professional career in the 1980s.  I mean the kind of communications programs that turn out the Lowell Galindos of the world, not one that looks at communication as a social science.

And I'm supposed to know that?  Give me a break, Al, and say what you mean.

[Trotsky]

If you two find a Puerto Rican you've got a good "walk into a bar" joke.

Also, Ithaca weather sucks

Does anybody think this has any effect?  We're not competing for hoops players who decide to take their talents to South Beach.  These guys are the wrestler from The Breakfast Club.  I doubt weather means a thing to them.

I've heard people say Boston has a leg up in hockey recruiting because there's "more to do there" (read: the Bruins and titty bars, not necessarily in that order) and I can see that, but has any teenage boy ever said to himself, "I'd like to go to Cornell to play lax, but Virginia has milder winters"?