Yale's Problem?

[Jim Hyla]

As reported by Adam in CHN Yale may have played an ineligible player, causing them to forfeit some games.

[Jacob '06]

Interesting situation. The talk on the USCHO boards is that Yale actually cleared things with the NCAA already.

[Trotsky]

Here is the delicately-named USCHO thread.

This is the part of Robenhymer's article that may indicate it won't result in sanctions:

Back in September, when Cahill was reinstated at Yale, his situation was discussed among the Ivy League members and they felt it was a low enough league in Europe that it wouldn't violate NCAA rules. The problem is...they never actually checked with the NCAA or even the ECAC.

I have a hard time believing the latter sentence is accurate.  It may be there is no official record of the NCAA and ECAC approving it (although that would not have been very smart by Yale), but I can't see anybody representing the Ivy League saying "oh sure, that'll be fine."  I can see them saying "you need to get a ruling from the NCAA -- they're laughably inconsistent on things like this."

It sounds like Yale knew what Cahill was doing every step of the way, so whoever is in charge of sorting out rules issues in the Yale hockey / AD office would have been on the phone with the NCAA the minute Cahill (who Yale fully expected to get back) said he wanted to play in that league.

I really hope Yale's in the clear.  We need every strong ECAC team we can get.

[Josh '99]

I broke the dam sent the letter.

[Jim Hyla]

Here is the delicately-named USCHO thread.

This is the part of Robenhymer's article that may indicate it won't result in sanctions:

Back in September, when Cahill was reinstated at Yale, his situation was discussed among the Ivy League members and they felt it was a low enough league in Europe that it wouldn't violate NCAA rules. The problem is...they never actually checked with the NCAA or even the ECAC.

I have a hard time believing the latter sentence is accurate.  It may be there is no official record of the NCAA and ECAC approving it (although that would not have been very smart by Yale), but I can't see anybody representing the Ivy League saying "oh sure, that'll be fine."  I can see them saying "you need to get a ruling from the NCAA -- they're laughably inconsistent on things like this."

It sounds like Yale knew what Cahill was doing every step of the way, so whoever is in charge of sorting out rules issues in the Yale hockey / AD office would have been on the phone with the NCAA the minute Cahill (who Yale fully expected to get back) said he wanted to play in that league.

I really hope Yale's in the clear.  We need every strong ECAC team we can get.

That's what Adam reported as well, but it may not be from a separate source.

[adamw]

New article ...

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/01/10_yale_confident_in_cahills.php

[Jim Hyla]

New article ...

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/01/10_yale_confident_in_cahills.php

Saw it at the end of work. Was going to post it, but you beat me to it before I got home. Thanks for the good reporting.

[nyc94]

Or was someone — like another school's booster, for example (purely speculative) — just trying to stir trouble for the league's first-place team?

Maybe it's that USCHO poster from North Dakota that just can't accept Yale as number 1. ::panic::

[David Harding]

When the US National Junior Team roster came out I wondered what the implications were of having several AHL players on the team alongside all the college kids.

[Al DeFlorio]

Speaking of Eli: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/sports/hockey/11yale.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha27

[Jim Hyla]

Brian Sullivan's twist on the whole thing.

[Jim Hyla]

Speaking of Eli: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/sports/hockey/11yale.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha27

Yale was 3-29-3 at Bright before last weekend?::twitch::

And I like this quote, "We wore them down in the third period, which is typical of what we're trying to do, Allain said after that game,...". That's used to be our mantra.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Speaking of Eli: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/sports/hockey/11yale.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha27

Yale was 3-29-3 at Bright before last weekend?::twitch::

And I like this quote, "We wore them down in the third period, which is typical of what we're trying to do, Allain said after that game,...". That's used to be our mantra.

Except we did it by beating the crap out of them.  Yale does it by out-racing them.

[ugarte]

I have a hard time believing the latter sentence is accurate.  It may be there is no official record of the NCAA and ECAC approving it (although that would not have been very smart by Yale), but I can't see anybody representing the Ivy League saying "oh sure, that'll be fine."  I can see them saying "you need to get a ruling from the NCAA -- they're laughably inconsistent on things like this."

Depending on how you parse Robenhymer, I think your assumption is correct. I think the "they" in the latter sentence refers to Yale. In other words, the Ivy schools said "this is fine, you should self-report" and Yale decided "no, this is good enough for us."

[RatushnyFan]

Some of you appear to be into that whole Yale thing.