St. Lawrence post-game

Started by lynah80, February 09, 2008, 10:19:25 PM

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lynah80

This if from the SLU ice hockey website:

"St. Lawrence scored twice in the last minute of a major power play called when defenseman Ross was knocked out of the game by a hit to the head early in the second period. Ross was taken off on a stretcher and was obviously shaken up by the hit, but he was not seriously injured."

He was down on the ice for a long time.  Maybe they were being cautious in the event that his neck was injured.  I hope he is okay.

Mike Hedrick 01

That was a horrible hit.  I don't know what Devin was thinking.  I hope Ross is OK.

Jim Hyla

Well, before everyone starts with, the season is over talk, let's look at where we are. Clarkson was picked first in both preseason polls, as was Q second and SLU third. We were fourth and either Harvard or Colgate were fifth. So which teams have tanked, it certainly wasn't Cornell. Currently Colgate and SLU are fighting for 8 & 9.

As with most of the season, we couldn't put a whole game together. The first period at Clarkson was one of our best, and only Leggio kept them in it. Another score for 2-0 and who knows. Even not having them tie it up would have made a big difference. Against SLU we came out flat and deserved to be down. I didn't see the 5 minute, but we almost killed it off. If we had done that, who knows. The third period was all us.

I hate to be repetitious, but we are young and will show it. Having watched some SU basketball, they show the same stuff. However, they have enough young talent to make a serious run in a year or two.

Anyone that could ask, as was done on the game thread, if Schafer was losing control of this team, well, let me just be nice and say I disagree. But then you all knew I'd say that, so I repeat myself again.::deadhorse::
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

This is not the 2003 team, but it isn't the 1993 team, either.

calgARI '07

Pretty clear that the team only prepared to play one game this weekend.  Schafer said as much when he said they spent all week on Clarkson and they would worry about St. Lawrence on Saturday.

PAthologicalLynah

I didn't say he lost control, I just said I was starting to wonder.  And younger teams do tend to make these kind of mistakes.  

But when he pulled Scrivens, even though it was the PK that gave up 2 goals in 28 seconds,  then put him back in later?  It seems to me like he is searching for an answer for this team.  What's he going to do next, start benching guys, Jack Parker style?

oceanst41

[quote PAthologicalLynah]I didn't say he lost control, I just said I was starting to wonder.  And younger teams do tend to make these kind of mistakes.  

But when he pulled Scrivens, even though it was the PK that gave up 2 goals in 28 seconds,  then put him back in later?  It seems to me like he is searching for an answer for this team.  What's he going to do next, start benching guys, Jack Parker style?[/quote]

I think Jim rightly corrected me in the game thread that the putting Scrivens back in was more to gain an extra "timeout" in order to draw up a play than it was searching for an answer.

PAthologicalLynah

Thanks, I must have missed that in the game thread.  I couldn't really understand why he would do that unless it was to shake up the team.

Jim Hyla

[quote PAthologicalLynah]I didn't say he lost control, I just said I was starting to wonder.  And younger teams do tend to make these kind of mistakes.  

But when he pulled Scrivens, even though it was the PK that gave up 2 goals in 28 seconds,  then put him back in later?  It seems to me like he is searching for an answer for this team.  What's he going to do next, start benching guys, Jack Parker style?[/quote]

As I had posted earlier on the game thread, he put Scrivens back in so he could get a second "time out". I think the first goalie change was to send a notice to the team to shape up and play stronger. It's often done by a coach and doesn't necessarily say anything bad about the goalie. Maybe he saw something about Scrivens, maybe not. But the team did play better.

During the second change he had the team huddled around him and he was drawing on his erasable board. No one was paying attention to the goalie switch. I'm convinced he just wanted to talk to the team about strategy. Both of these were intelligent coaching moves, not searching for an answer.

edit: Well, I got beat to it.:-}
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Al DeFlorio

[quote Jim Hyla]As I had posted earlier on the game thread, he put Scrivens back in so he could get a second "time out"[/quote]
In 'olden days,' the goalie would skate to the bench to have his straps adjusted if the coach wanted to give his team a breather.  Same thing.
Al DeFlorio '65

oceanst41

Well you said it much more eloquently.

PAthologicalLynah

Do you think it might affect Davenport, having come in down 4-0, playing well enough to get them to 4-2, only to be removed just so the coach could draw up an offensive play?  Oh, to be on the bench for that conversation.

oceanst41

[quote PAthologicalLynah]Do you think it might affect Davenport, having come in down 4-0, playing well enough to get them to 4-2, only to be removed just so the coach could draw up an offensive play?  Oh, to be on the bench for that conversation.[/quote]

Well Scrivens barely played before he was pulled to give Cornell the extra attacker, one way or another Davenport was coming out of that game and I'm sure he was told and understood exactly why.

Jim Hyla

[quote oceanst41][quote PAthologicalLynah]Do you think it might affect Davenport, having come in down 4-0, playing well enough to get them to 4-2, only to be removed just so the coach could draw up an offensive play?  Oh, to be on the bench for that conversation.[/quote]

Well Scrivens barely played before he was pulled to give Cornell the extra attacker, one way or another Davenport was coming out of that game and I'm sure he was told and understood exactly why.[/quote]

Totally agree. I've been impressed how well Davenport has taken to his role. It seems like he is always ready, and the two of them seem to get along quite well. Of course none of us know what happens inside, each of their heads or the clubhouse, but you can't see any problems on the ice. I take that to be a message that not only are the goalies getting along, but that the coaches and captains are doing their jobs as well.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

PAthologicalLynah

Hmm, good point.  I only had the game on redcast, so it's sometimes hard to pin down times for things, I thought he was in there much longer.   INCH has much more thorough box scores, the one on USCHO wasn't really much help.