Wayne State Saturday Postgame

[redhair34]

[quote ebilmes]
Wayne State should be thankful this Thanksgiving break that Cornell has handed them what will likely be the highlight of their season: a win at Lynah.[/quote]
I don't think you're giving Wayne State enough credit.  They fought us hard and earned a great victory on the road.

[saff678]

For Topher's contact to the head after the play near the end, I saw two of their guys pinning him to the back of the goal and going at his head, while the play was still going. The scrum after was nothing compared to the beating he took that the refs didnt call.

[Omie]

Horrible game.

I'll just point out the positives first. Greening getting two goals is awesome and he stepped up when everyone else wasn't. Gallagher had a very good game. McCutcheon was all over the ice working but couldn't find the back of the net. Scrivens played great; I think he is much better than Davenport. He had some very good saves and kept us in the game with his save on the penalty shot. I do not know why he was called for roughing since he just checked the guy but oh well. As to why he left the crease I have no clue but that was the second breakaway in less than 5 mins, I think he was attempting to not get another penalty shot at him. The 5th WSU goal occured after Scrivens made a save and Nash let the rebound go of his stick, so more the D's fault than his. As to Davenport, well he was just awful; I am certainly not a fan of his but today he really did it, 2 saves on 5 shots. All 3 of our losses have been due to Davenport screwing up on the 1st period. Against Dartmouth he allowed 2 goals on 7 shots and against Q he allowed 2 on 10, those are very low save % in the first period and have created holes we can't climd out of. The defense has been slacking and on this game in particular was just terrible. After trailing 3-0 it was a nearly impossible game for a Cornell team to win but we did our best and came very close. Also, three of the Wayne State goals were 5x3!!!!! That is just plain stupid, we were taking way too many penalties and most of them stupid ones. The ones that were questionable ones most ended up on 4x4 situations so I don't think they changed the outcome that much. Wayne State scored 4/8 power plays and that is just awful penalty kill. It was a really disappointing game to say the least, and not to discredit Wayne State because they showed they wanted to win and took advantage of all their opportunities, but we were supposed to win no problem. This loss is going to hurt a lot come NCAA selection time.

Let's just hope the guys step up tomorrow and Mike comes up with new PP and PK strategies because the current ones aren't cutting it.

Alright, Let's Go Red and avenge this loss tomorrow. LGR!!

[Beeeej]

I think Scrivens made the right choice to come out of the net for that puck, because if he hadn't it'd have been a pure breakaway, and likely as not a Wayne State goal.  But I'd also like to know why he was called for roughing when it looked like a clean check to me - and last I knew, in front of the faceoff dots, he can hit and get hit just like any other player.  So what's the deal?  Did anybody see him punch the guy or something?

[Omie]

I thought it was a clean check too, maybe its so odd the refs didn't really know what to do? Either way Murphy sucks!

BTW I got the Ken Dryden autograph! ::dribble::

[calgARI '07]

Wasnt very close but it looked like he got both his gloves high on the hit.  Still surprised it got called all the same.

[Oat]

I have not seen our team successfully kill off one single 5x3 situation yet this year. Everytime a 5x3 comes up against us, I would put my money down and bet against our team every time. Our PK just can't do it.

::bang:: Ok, done with my rant of the day.

[ugarte]

[quote Oat]I have not seen our team successfully kill off one single 5x3 situation yet this year. Everytime a 5x3 comes up against us, I would put my money down and bet against our team every time. Our PK just can't do it.[/quote]I don't know how fair that is. If I had to bet on every 5x3 over a minute, I'd probably bet on the offense (given teams of roughly even capability) I'd bet on the offense every time.

[bandrews37]

Currently ranked 55th out of 59 in D1 in penalty killing... yeah, I'd say that's a problem... For a Schafer coached team that's routinely in the top 10 in the nation, 55th is an embarrassment.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Omie] All 3 of our losses have been due to Davenport screwing up on the 1st period. Against Dartmouth he allowed 2 goals on 7 shots and against Q he allowed 2 on 10, those are very low save % in the first period and have created holes we can't climd out of.[/Q] [Q]The defense has been slacking and on this game in particular was just terrible.[/quote]Well I can agree with the second statement, but not the first. Last night two of those three goals were PP, one a 5 on 3. Also one of the goals went off a post or crossbar. Against Q, one even and one PP goal, and D 2 PP goals, one of which went off one of our players. Sure, he could have saved some of them, but to blame him for us losing, come on.

[Trotsky]

[quote redhair34]That pretty much sums it up.  The officiating wasn't the difference;  the team mailing it in for the vast majority of the game was.  Kudos to Wayne State.  I'd like to see Scali tomorrow.[/quote]

Schafer does not suffer these performances gladly.  I have a feeling that we may see anybody who is capable of cracking the lineup today.  Scali.  Kindret.  Fontas.  Maybe we'll even have a Connors sighting.

[Dafatone]

We're starting to look very inconsistent from game to game.  We're young.  Schafer said that we no longer can use that as an excuse.  Well, excuse or no excuse, it's still a valid reason.

We need to work on the powerplay and the kill.  That's pretty much it.  And Davenport has a tendency to give up goals early, though he's been very solid in games I've seen (home games that aren't Wayne State).

[scoop85]

[quote Oat]I have not seen our team successfully kill off one single 5x3 situation yet this year. Everytime a 5x3 comes up against us, I would put my money down and bet against our team every time. Our PK just can't do it.

::bang:: Ok, done with my rant of the day.[/quote]

Well, if it's any consolation we did kill off a 5 x 3 against Harvard.

[Dpperk29]

[quote redhair34][quote Dpperk29]

from an unbiased perspective, the officiating was pretty good. Maybe alittle one sided against wayne state, but Murphy called a pretty good game. The penatly shot, the penalty to scrivens, and sawada's cross-check were all really good calls which the Faithful didn;t like, but I had a perfect view of all of them, and they were good calls.

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Those things happen. Murphy was on the other side of the goalie, and probably thought the goalie had it. He was probably trying to protect the goalie from the hacks that always follow. He owned up to it, it happens to everyone.

[/quote]

Let's all defer to the "unbiased" opinion of the guy who comes on elynah and whines after every Clarkson loss about how awful the officiating was.  Where were you sitting when you had such a perfect view of ALL of the calls you mentioned?  Did you switch seats a few times?
 

Sawada's dive was deffinatly a dive, good call there. I really can't think of a cornell penalty which wasn't warranted.

Can you substanaiate this claim?  How do you "deffinatly" know it was a dive?[/quote]


I like to think there is a fine line between bitching and whining, but call it what you will. I wasn;t expecting you to all defer to my opinion, but is it fair to say you all have a biased view of how the game turns out? I was unbiased because I honestly didn;t care who won, yes cornell tanking against wayne state is going to hurt the entire ECAC when it comes NCAA time, but i'll get over it. so I guess in that sense, I was slightly pulling for cornell

I was seated in section M the whole game, and all three of those calls I mentioned, were ones where my first reaction was "Cornell's going to get one for that". As a ref, if I was reffing the game, and had seen those incidents from that perspective, all of them would have been penalties.

[Omie]

I wouldn't blame him completely because the PK is just being awful. However with that said, a good goalie can make the saves that are needed during the PK too. I was at the Q game and we scored early but the moment Q had their 1st or 2nd shot it went in. What I am pointing out is that Davenport has had bad performances in all three 1st periods of all three of our losses, against Q he was eh, against D he was eek, and last night he was just awful. The defense has gone from okay to bad, instead of improving they have been doing the opposite. Two straight losses with one of them against Wayne State at home leaves a lot to be desired. I think another problem is our team's leadership; Scott is doing a great job but Bitz is not a tangible factor most of the time while Glover is out 'til Jan. We haven't had a good, dependable captain since Knoepfli.

We have a more distributed offense this year and very good freshman but the upperclassmen need to step up and Mike must figure out how to improve the D, PK, and PP. Even his own statements show he is not happy.

6-3 is a good stretch for this team with so many intangibles but look at the losses and you will notice that the team that played those games is not the same one that started winning early in the season. Besides the ridiculously weak Non-conf schedule was intended because our team would be so young. I don't think being young is an excuse anymore not 1/3 of the way through the season.