OT: Lax vs. Penn

[Will]

[Q]Scott Kominkiewicz Wrote:

 Could someone please fill me in on the meaning of the "fish" game?  Obviously, I've missed something.  [/q]

http://www.syracuse.com/sports/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/111217546380524.xml

[ben03]

here's some follow-up information:
[Q]"The 15th men's lacrosse meeting between Navy and Georgetown was suspended on a tragic note yesterday, when longtime official Scott Boyle collapsed on the field at Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium and died of an apparent heart attack.

Boyle, 55, of Lutherville, who officiated at the collegiate level for more than 25 years and was part of yesterday's three-man crew, was pronounced dead shortly after being taken to Anne Arundel Medical Center at about 2 p.m., according to hospital spokeswoman Martha Harland.

Boyle fell about 10 yards in front of the Georgetown goal just after the first quarter had ended with the ninth-ranked Hoyas leading No. 5 Navy 2-0, as both teams huddled on the sidelines.

Navy trainer Joe English and Georgetown trainer Stacy Slayback rushed onto the field to tend to Boyle, whom English said was having difficulty breathing. Within several minutes, Cmdr. Kevin Ronan, a Navy physician who was unavailable to comment, performed CPR on Boyle and treated him with a defibrillator.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/lacrosse/bal-sp.navylax03apr03,1,7094335.story?coll=bal-sports-headlines&ctrack=2&cset=true  [/Q]
[Q]"ANNAPOLIS, Md. - Senior midfielder Nick Miaritis scored four goals for the seventh-ranked Georgetown lacrosse team (5-2), leading the Hoyas to an 11-6 victory over Navy (7-2) Sunday afternoon at Rip Miller Field on the Yard of the United States Naval Academy. The loss snapped the Mids' four-game win streak and also marked Navy's first non-Patriot League contest since its home opener March 5 against North Carolina.

The decision to move the game from Georgetown to Navy was made on Friday because of the forecasted rain storm. The Hoyas and Midshipmen fought through a quarter of play in a driving rain storm Saturday at Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium when referee Scott Boyle collapsed. Boyle was attended to by Navy medical staff and transported to Anne Arundel Medical Center where he later died. The game was suspended and picked up Sunday on Navy's turf field." http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=756 [/Q]

[Hillel Hoffmann]

Some historical context to help explain why Princeton must go down in flames this year:

During the Tierney period -- Smutiy, the Time of Troubles -- Princeton has threatened several league records long held by Cornell. Our consecutive league wins record of 38, set in the mid-1970s, was spared when Yale beat the Tigers a couple of years ago. Now Princeton's on the threshhold of breaking another one, Cornell's streak of ten straight Ivy titles (shared or outright), set '74-'83. If Princeton wins it this year, it'll be their 11th.

Of course, "Tierney's a roaring dickweed" works too.

[ben03]

[Q]Hillel Hoffmann Wrote:
Of course, "Tierney's a roaring dickweed" works too.[/q]
works for me :-D

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]Hillel Hoffmann Wrote:

 Some historical context to help explain why Princeton must go down in flames this year...

[/q]
Well, the Tigers came close to flaming out tonight, but managed a 6-5 double OT win at Penn.

#4 Army snuck past Stony Brook, 9-8 in OT.  Very interesting season so far.

[Hillel Hoffmann]

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote: Very interesting season so far. [/q]
Can I get a witness? The most compelling regular season I can remember. Literally a watershed year for the sport.

It's unreal. You have 3 juggernaut teams that beat all comers and about 20-25 very solid teams that are incapable of sorting themselves into any kind of sensible order. The amazing part: The two teams that have dominated the sport for decades -- Princeton and Syracuse -- are not in the former group, where they've been replaced by infamous underachievers. Every single week you get a buncha shocking upsets or alleged mismatches that are surprisingly close. Once meaningless early and midseason interconference games are now unbearably tense. Teams that (but for the AQ) have long been irrelevant are now major players for at-large NCAA tournament bids. Cowafreakingbunga!

I still like Dartmouth to win the Ivy League. If that happens, Cornell may be in serious trouble unless Notre Dame gets its shit together. Upcoming games that once were quality-win opportunities are looking kinda flimsy now.

John (Whelan), will you pleasepleaseprettyplease do a properly adjusted lacrosse Ratings Percentage Index again? I'll score you a Sprungli gift box of your choice.

[ugarte]

[Q]Hillel Hoffmann Wrote:John (Whelan), will you pleasepleaseprettyplease do a properly adjusted lacrosse Ratings Percentage Index again? I'll score you a Sprungli gift box of your choice.[/q]Do you want RPI or KRACL?

[jeh25]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 [Q2]Al DeFlorio Wrote:
Bad situation at the Navy-Georgetown game.  An official collapsed on the field and both teams have been sent to their locker rooms.[/Q]

I was just about to post about this. I have to be honest, it looks exactly like the Bioardi thing. [/q]

An student athlete collapsing after being hit in the chest and a 55 year old official having a heart attack are similar how? My thoughts are with the official's family, but I fail to see the similarity.

[Hillel Hoffmann]

John, I think what Fred was referring to was the atmosphere surrounding the event as it was unfolding -- that awful feeling among people who listened to the game or attended the game (as Fred did during the Boairdi tragedy) that something very, very, very bad was happening, but one didn't know the details. The sense of foreboding in both cases was compounded by incomplete reports that were hastily circulated online.

[DeltaOne81]

Hillel, yes. I also meant simply the actions. I hate to say to much about either, but the order of the events, the length of time, the order of treatments (some of which the camera unfortunately caught), etc.

It seemed to me like I was watching the same events unfold all over again, from the point of collapse afterwards, only with a different person and on a different field. I hope that's clear enough.

[jeh25]

[Q]Hillel Hoffmann Wrote:

 John, I think what Fred was referring to was the atmosphere surrounding the event as it was unfolding -- that awful feeling among people who listened to the game or attended the game (as Fred did during the Boairdi tragedy) that something very, very, very bad was happening, but one didn't know the details. The sense of foreboding in both cases was compounded by incomplete reports that were hastily circulated online.[/q]

Ah. Got it. That makes sense.

[Hillel Hoffmann]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote: I hate to say too much about either, but the order of the events, the length of time, the order of treatments (some of which the camera unfortunately caught), etc. It seemed to me like I was watching the same events unfold all over again, from the point of collapse afterwards, only with a different person and on a different field. [/q]
I'm so glad I didn't see what you saw last year. The message you posted when you came back from the game was (is) unforgettable. It was strange to experience that day through your eyes, refracted through the Internet, in near-real time, on various message boards. Strange but helpful. Thanks.

[Hillel Hoffmann]

Notre Dame lost to Denver yesterday in South Bend. It was ND's second loss in a row.

Not good. The Irish -- Cornell's only "quality win" to date -- may struggle to stay in the 10-15 range in the final Ratings Percentage Index.

Once upon a time, it would've been realistic to expect at least another two or three teams on Cornell's remaining schedule to be potential high-yield wins. Unfortunately, only Syracuse (who Cornell will play in the Dome on Tuesday night) seems to have a realistic shot at finishing the season in the RPI top 10. A loss to SU may mean that Cornell will have to win the Ivy League to qualify for the NCAA tournament.

The good news: Syracuse is beatable, and Cornell has already won their first two intraconference games.

The bad news: Cornell hasn't won in the Dome -- or even come close -- since 1987's ass-whuppin' (one of the most satisfying regular season wins ever). And Cornell has yet to play the toughest Ivy League teams.

Here's the rest of the schedule:

Sat 4/9, Harvard, 1
Tue 4/12, at Syracuse, 7
Sat 4/16, at Dartmouth, 1
Sat 4/23, Princeton, 1
Sat 4/30, at Brown, 1
Fri 5/6, Hobart, 7

Either way, the three games in the next eight days could end up making or breaking the season -- particularly if you buy the theory that Dartmouth may be a sleeping giant.

[Trotsky]

If it's Dartmouth, they're passed out, not sleeping.