WCHA Expansion Moratorium Lifted

Beeeej · January 18, 2009, 03:56:26 AM

[quote adamw]So all talk of any team moving conferences in order to accommodate the grand plan, is pretty useless.[/quote]

Adam, your input is great, but please - you're trying to talk sense to a group that regularly debates the wisdom of poll results as if rationale, motivation, and intelligence (or lack thereof) can be attributed to calculations based on the mathematical aggregation of what fifty individuals had for breakfast on any given Sunday.

nshapiro · January 18, 2009, 09:09:46 AM

Anybody care to explain the CNBC graphic:

Headline: University Endowments

SubHead: Growing their hedge fund portfolios

60% of largest endowments have allocated $23B since '06

(emoticon of question mark indicating confusion, and head banging against wall)

ithacat · January 18, 2009, 02:57:44 PM

[quote adamw]In reaction to what was said upthread ... just as a reminder ... no school is going to move conferences just because we think it's a good idea, or because it's convenient to some master scheme. Teams will move if it's in their best interests, period. So all talk of any team moving conferences in order to accommodate the grand plan, is pretty useless.

Shameless plugs:
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2009/01/17_commentary.php
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2008/11/14_commentary.php[/quote]

Fine...now can we get back to debating which conference gets a team that doesn't yet exist? :-)

ugarte · January 18, 2009, 06:45:02 PM

[quote Beeeej]... the mathematical aggregation of what fifty individuals had for breakfast on any given Sunday.[/quote]
Whelan's got a chart for that, right?

jtwcornell91 · January 18, 2009, 11:01:34 PM

[quote ugarte][quote Beeeej]... the mathematical aggregation of what fifty individuals had for breakfast on any given Sunday.[/quote]
Whelan's got a chart for that, right?[/quote]

I was sitting by the pool of our conference hotel this evening debating the BCS with a colleague, and said "But with Bayesian statistics we can solve the problem!" My former boss was walking towards us, and turned around and walked away. :-P

Swampy · January 20, 2009, 12:34:12 AM

[quote jtwcornell91][quote ugarte][quote Beeeej]... the mathematical aggregation of what fifty individuals had for breakfast on any given Sunday.[/quote]
Whelan's got a chart for that, right?[/quote]

I was sitting by the pool of our conference hotel this evening debating the BCS with a colleague, and said "But with Bayesian statistics we can solve the problem!" My former boss was walking towards us, and turned around and walked away. :-P[/quote]

Yeah, and a few weeks ago an accountant told me that there's nothing intrinsically problematic about credit default swaps since, with proper actuarial methods, one can accurately factor in the risk! ::crazy::

Chris 02 · January 26, 2009, 09:50:03 PM

Looks like Atlantic Hockey is considering Niagara and Robert Morris as reported on CHN.

www.chn.com

ithacat · January 28, 2009, 02:19:56 PM

[quote Chris 02]Looks like Atlantic Hockey is considering Niagara and Robert Morris as reported on CHN.

www.chn.com[/quote]

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,16508/AtlanticHockeyApprovesExpansionNiagaraandRobertMorrisToJoin.html

Chris '03 · January 28, 2009, 02:33:40 PM

[quote ithacat][quote Chris 02]Looks like Atlantic Hockey is considering Niagara and Robert Morris as reported on CHN.

www.chn.com[/quote]

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,16508/AtlanticHockeyApprovesExpansionNiagaraandRobertMorrisToJoin.html[/quote]

Sorry, Alabama-Huntsville. It looks like it will take a miracle to save that program. Something along the lines of UNO to WCHA, UAH to CCHA. It's really unlikely though. Maybe they can pull in a couple Canadian schools (with enough money and desire to travel to alabama) and form another start up conference if BSU is turned down by the WCHA.

Rita · January 28, 2009, 02:38:39 PM

[quote ithacat][quote Chris 02]Looks like Atlantic Hockey is considering Niagara and Robert Morris as reported on CHN.

www.chn.com[/quote]

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,16508/AtlanticHockeyApprovesExpansionNiagaraandRobertMorrisToJoin.html[/quote]

It would be nice if one of the CCHA teams (UN-O, Alaska or NMU) would move to the WCHA so that Alabama-Huntsville would have a conference to call home.

Nebraska-Omaha would seem to be the logical choice. Geographically, Alaska and NMU would also fit, but they seem to have more historical ties to the CCHA.

Since the AHA is taking Niagara (and eliminating the possibility of a 13 team ECACHL), maybe the Ivies can "give a little" and let the teams play a few more games. I know, keep dreaming. :-|

Josh '99 · January 28, 2009, 02:45:15 PM

[quote Chris '03]...if BSU is turned down by the WCHA.[/quote]I can't imagine that'll happen. Wasn't letting BSU join the whole reason for lifting the expansion moratorium?

Chris '03 · January 28, 2009, 03:03:31 PM

[quote Josh '99][quote Chris '03]...if BSU is turned down by the WCHA.[/quote]I can't imagine that'll happen. Wasn't letting BSU join the whole reason for lifting the expansion moratorium?[/quote]

Letting them say their piece was the reason for lifting the moratorium. In the current economic climate, I'd say it's far from a done deal. Other small schools in the WCHA have very little to gain from games with BSU and the conference slate isn't going to get bigger than the 27 they already play. It's fewer games against the name brand schools, one more school in the way of a home playoff series, one more direct recruiting competitor, etc. BSU doesn't have the same carrot the Alaska schools could dangle to make it worth their while. If they're admitted it's for the good of the game as much as anything.