Polls 2013-14

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I can't wait for the follow-up thread, "Not-Andy Iles by the numbers".

Or "Iles is not an answer."

I'd hope to see "Not-Iles is the answer."

[Trotsky]

Is it too early to start a "Gillam is not the answer" thread?

The accepted practice is:

1. Wait for X to lose a game*.

2. Judiciously conclude X is not the answer, we are doomed, Schafer must go, and anyone who thinks differently is a Pollyanna to be reviled or pitied.

* note this can occur after any number of wins

[Robb]

Is it too early to start a "Gillam is not the answer" thread?

The accepted practice is:

1. Wait for X to lose a game*.

2. Judiciously conclude X is not the answer, we are doomed, Schafer must go, and anyone who thinks differently is a Pollyanna to be reviled or pitied.

* note this can occur after any number of wins

You left out step 3: transfer to RPI.  (or is that step 0?)

[Trotsky]

You left out step 3: transfer to RPI.  (or is that step 0?)

One does not "transfer" to RPI.  One is "designated for assignment."

[Give My Regards]

Is it too early to start a "Gillam is not the answer" thread?

Wow, tough crowd.  After all, he does lead the team in goals scored per game played. ::whistle::

[ugarte]

Is it too early to start a "Gillam is not the answer" thread?

Wow, tough crowd.  After all, he does lead the team in goals scored per game played. ::whistle::

whatevs. his goal scoring streak is already over

[gatefan]

You do get points for picking Clarkson tenth rather than twelfth.

This year's good prediction was that Yale would regress, which was projected from Yale's 2013 ECAC upset loss and second half drop, and the loss of their goaltending and a substantial amount of their offense.

Then again, the other team that was supposed to crater by those metrics was... Colgate.  Oh well.

The teams possibly in trouble in 2014-15 based on loss of senior scoring will be: Clarkson (losing 4 of their top 5 scorers), Princeton (4/6 including Caloff), Quinnipiac (3/5: the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas), St. Lawrence (3/5 including Greg Carey's 181 career points), Union (3/5 including Carr and Bodie), and Yale again (3/4, including Root and Agostino).

Far and away the greatest impact from loss in goal will be us.  Brown (DeFilippo), Harvard (Girard), and St. Lawrence (Weninger) all either have credible backups or are losing unimpressive incumbents.

Looking at that, we (Colgate) should be in good shape entering next year, losing our No. 1A goalie (Mihalik may be back-up but we owe him 3 playoff series wins) and a fourth-liner. Then again, we also thought we were in good shape entering 2010-11 and only started playing like the team we were supposed to be all year in the postseason.

[Jim Hyla]

So, probably the last week to post the polls.
They are even less significant this time of year and reasonably match the PWR.

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
March 10, 2014
Team     (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (29) 24- 4-6 978 1
2 Boston College (19) 25- 5-4 965 2
[b][u]3 Union        ( 1) 24- 6-4 899 3[/u][/b]
4 St. Cloud State ( 1) 21- 8-5 841 4
5 Wisconsin 21- 9-2 788 5
6 Ferris State 25- 9-3 719 7
[b][u]6 Quinnipiac 22- 8-6 719 6[/u][/b]
8 Massachusetts-Lowell 21- 9-4 669 8
9 Providence 19- 9-6 569 10
10 North Dakota 20-11-3 554 9
11 Notre Dame 21-12-2 481 11
[b][u]12 Cornell        15- 8-5 428 13[/u][/b]
13 Michigan 17-11-4 365 12
14 Northeastern 18-12-4 348 14
15 Vermont        19-12-3 318 15
[b][u]16 Yale        17- 9-5 254 16
17 Colgate        17-12-5 213 18[/u][/b]
18 Minnesota State 22-13-1 205 17
19 Maine        16-13-4 68 20
20 Minnesota-Duluth 16-14-4 62 19
Others receiving votes: New Hampshire 18, [b][u]Clarkson 8[/u][/b], Western Michigan 8,
Ohio State 7, Denver 6, Nebraska-Omaha 5, Air Force 4, Alaska 1.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2vb3jy0No



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USA
Rank School                Last Week
1. Minnesota,      506 (30)1
2. Boston College, 480 (4) 2
[b][u]3. Union,          439 3[/u][/b]
4. St. Cloud State,401 4
5. Wisconsin,      371 5
6. Ferris State,   324 7
[b][u]7. Quinnipiac,     319 6[/u][/b]
8. UMass Lowell,   268 8
9. North Dakota,   219 9
10. Providence,     199 10
11. Notre Dame,     161 12
[b][u]12. Cornell,        133 13[/u][/b]
13. Michigan,        86 11
14. Northeastern, 67 14
15. Vermont, 47 RV

Others receiving votes: [b][u]Yale, 25; Colgate, 22[/u][/b]; Minnesota State, 13.



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PWR
Rk Team       PCWs RPI Rk QWB-† W-L-T Win % Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 Minnesota 58 .6011 1 .0080 24-4-6 .7941 .7893
2 Boston College 57 .6007 2 .0083 25-5-4 .7941 .8047
[b][u]3 Union        55 .5809 3 .0048 24-6-4 .7647 .7688[/u][/b]
4 Wisconsin 55 .5643 4 .0042 21-9-2 .6875 .6831
5 St. Cloud State 54 .5634 5 .0047 21-8-5 .6912 .6836
6 Ferris State 53 .5626 6 .0006 25-9-3 .7162 .7371
[b][u]7 Quinnipiac 52 .5548 7 .0045 22-8-6 .6944 .6903[/u][/b]
8 Mass.-Lowell 51 .5537 8 .0041 21-9-4 .6765 .6766
9 Notre Dame 50 .5482 9 .0057 21-12-2 .6286 .6074
10 North Dakota 49 .5465 10 .0026 20-11-3 .6324 .6228
11 Providence 47 .5463 11 .0043 19-9-6 .6471 .6404
12 Vermont 47 .5418 12 .0026 19-12-3 .6029 .5930
[b][u]13 Cornell 45 .5412 13 .0024 15-8-5 .6250 .6259[/u][/b]
14 Michigan 44 .5404 14 .0035 17-11-4 .5938 .6013
15 Northeastern 44 .5393 15 .0065 18-12-4 .5882 .5901
[b][u]16 Colgate 43 .5356 17 .0077 17-12-5 .5735 .5632[/u][/b]


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USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
March 10, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 36- 1-1 150 1
[b][u]2 Cornell        24- 5-4 126 5[/u][/b]
3 Wisconsin 27- 7-2 118 2
[b][u]4 Clarkson 28- 5-5 112 3[/u][/b]
5 Boston College 27- 6-3 87 4
[b][u]6 Harvard        23- 6-4 76 6[/u][/b]
7 Mercyhurst 23- 8-4 49 8
8 North Dakota 20-12-4 45 9
9 Boston University 24-12-1 29 NR
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 22- 6-9 23 7[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 8, Minnesota-Duluth 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz2vb4CBWdT



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Women's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T Win % Win %    RPI   RPI Rank
                                                Rank
1 Minnesota 16 36-1-1 .9605 1 .6794* 1
[b][u]2 Cornell   15 24-5-4 .7879 4 .6046* 2
3 Clarkson 14 28-5-5 .8026 2 .5999* 3[/u][/b]
4 Wisconsin 13 27-7-2 .7778 5 .5980* 4
[b][u]5 Harvard        12 23-6-4 .7576 6 .5832* 6[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 11 27-6-3 .7917 3 .5886* 5
7 Mercyhurst 10 23-8-4 .7143 9 .5593* 8
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac 9 22-6-9 .7162 8 .5609* 7[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 8 24-8-3 .7286 7 .5568 9
10 North Dakota 7 20-12-4 .6111 12 .5529 10
11 Boston Univer 6 24-12-1 .6622 10 .5458 11

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz2vb4MpjQX



[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Wisconsin-Clarkson, Harvard-BC, and Quinny-Nodak, all flipped in the the Women's poll relative to the PWR.  Sure looks like an anti-ECAC bias to me.

[Josh '99]

Wisconsin-Clarkson, Harvard-BC, and Quinny-Nodak, all flipped in the the Women's poll relative to the PWR.  Sure looks like an anti-ECAC bias to me.

Since 2005, the champship has been won by a western team every year; the runners-up have been other western teams four times, BU twice, Mercyhurst once, Cornell once.  I suppose I can understand the bias on that basis.

[Chris '03]

Wisconsin-Clarkson, Harvard-BC, and Quinny-Nodak, all flipped in the the Women's poll relative to the PWR.  Sure looks like an anti-ECAC bias to me.

Since 2005, the champship has been won by a western team every year; the runners-up have been other western teams four times, BU twice, Mercyhurst once, Cornell once.  I suppose I can understand the bias on that basis.

Yeah. I think the west has earned it here. In the 13 year history of the event, which has never been won by an eastern school, the ECAC has had the runner up six times, WCHA four times, HEA twice, CHA once.

Also of note, the Frozen Four has never been on an ECAC campus before this year and won't be again until at least 2019. (Minneapolis in '15, Durham in '16, St. Charles, MO(?) in '17, and Minneapolis again (for the sixth time) in '18.

[Trotsky]

St. Charles, MO(?) in '17

This may seem like a bizarre choice (and, well, it is) but St. Charles is one of the most interesting towns in the country.  It's a very strange place -- sort of if Savannah and Reno had a baby in Kansas.

Also the birthplace of Santino from Project Runway, which once you go there makes perfect sense.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Wisconsin-Clarkson, Harvard-BC, and Quinny-Nodak, all flipped in the the Women's poll relative to the PWR.  Sure looks like an anti-ECAC bias to me.

Since 2005, the champship has been won by a western team every year; the runners-up have been other western teams four times, BU twice, Mercyhurst once, Cornell once.  I suppose I can understand the bias on that basis.

Understand, yes.  Accept gracefully?  Never!  ::moon::  :-D

[Trotsky]

We drop one slot to 13.  Union moves up to 2 for the first time in their history.

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02 Uni
05 Qpc
13 Cor
14 Col
20 Yal
26 Clk


[Trotsky]

Cornell slides to #16 in USCHO.

Union is #1 for the first time in school history.

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01 Uni
07 Qpc
12 Col
16 Cor
21 Yal