Polls 2013-14

[Jim Hyla]

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    USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
February 24, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Boston College (49) 25- 4-4 999 1
2 Minnesota ( 1) 21- 4-5 946 2
[b][u]3 Union        22- 6-4 901 3[/u][/b]
4 Ferris State 23- 7-3 834 6
5 St. Cloud State 18- 7-5 781 4
6 Wisconsin 19- 9-2 732 8
7 Massachusetts-Lowell 20- 8-4 679 7
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac 21- 8-5 650 5[/u][/b]
9 Northeastern 18-10-4 588 9
10 North Dakota 18- 9-3 575 11
[b][u]11 Cornell        14- 7-5 479 13[/u][/b]
12 Providence 17- 9-6 450 12
13 Michigan 15-10-3 372 10
14 Notre Dame 19-12-2 326 15
[b][u]15 Yale        14- 8-5 300 14
16 Colgate        16-11-5 269 19[/u][/b]
17 Vermont        17-11-3 261 16
18 Maine        15-11-4 141 17
19 Minnesota State 19-13-0 86 NR
20 Denver        14-12-6 30 18
Others receiving votes: Ohio State 25, New Hampshire 23, Minnesota-Duluth 15,
[b][u]Clarkson 13[/u][/b], Western Michigan 12, Air Force 7, Mercyhurst 6.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2uHz26jbB



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USA
Rank School Last Week
1. Boston College,(33) 509   1
2. Minnesota,     (1)  477   2
[b][u]3. Union,              435 3[/u][/b]
4. Ferris State,       405 5
5. St. Cloud State,    364 4
6. Wisconsin,          325 8
[b][u]7. Quinnipiac,         287 6[/u][/b]
8. UMass Lowell,       280 7
9. Northeastern,       232 9
10. North Dakota,       230 11
[b][u]11. Cornell,            163 13[/u][/b]
12. Providence,         103 12
13. Michigan,            94 10
[b][u]14. Yale,                51 14
15. Colgate,             46 RV[/u][/b]

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame, 42; Vermont, 27; Maine, 4; Minnesota State, 4.



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USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
February 24, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 32- 1-1 150 1
2 Wisconsin 25- 5-2 133 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 25- 4-5 120 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 25- 5-3 100 5
[b][u]5 Harvard        21- 4-4 85 5
6 Cornell        20- 5-4 81 3
7 Quinnipiac 20- 5-9 52 9[/u][/b]
8 Mercyhurst 22- 7-4 43 8
9 North Dakota 17-11-4 27 7
10 Robert Morris 24- 7-3 24 9
Others receiving votes: Boston University 6, Northeastern 4.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz2uHzOkTNJ


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[Jim Hyla]

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
March 03, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (37) 23- 4-5 987 2
2 Boston College (12) 25- 5-4 951 1
[b][u]3 Union        ( 1) 24- 6-4 912 3[/u][/b]
4 St. Cloud State 19- 8-5 806 5
5 Wisconsin 19- 9-2 786 6
[b][u]6 Quinnipiac 22- 8-6 709 8[/u][/b]
7 Ferris State 23- 9-3 693 4
8 Massachusetts-Lowell 21- 9-4 680 7
9 North Dakota 19-10-3 608 10
10 Providence 19- 9-6 559 12
11 Notre Dame 20-12-2 446 14
12 Michigan 16-10-4 426 13
[b][u]13 Cornell        15- 8-5 397 11[/u][/b]
14 Northeastern 18-12-4 374 9
15 Vermont        18-12-3 258 17
[b][u]16 Yale        15- 9-5 242 15[/u][/b]
17 Minnesota State 21-13-0 228 19
[b][u]18 Colgate        17-12-5 227 16[/u][/b]
19 Minnesota-Duluth 15-13-4 72 NR
20 Maine        15-13-4 28 18
Others receiving votes: Denver 27, [b][u]Clarkson 17[/u][/b], Ohio State 17, New Hampshire 16,
Air Force 10, Mercyhurst 8, Western Michigan 8, Nebraska-Omaha 6, Alaska 2.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/#ixzz2uwXyllU0



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USA
Rank School           Last Week
1. Minnesota,    (27) 503  2
2. Boston College,(7) 480  1
[b][u]3. Union,             427 3[/u][/b]
4. St. Cloud State,   391 5
5. Wisconsin,         376 6
[b][u]6. Quinnipiac,        307 7[/u][/b]
7. Ferris State,      304 4
8. UMass Lowell,      278 8
9. North Dakota,      235 10
10. Providence,        210 12
11. Michigan,          148 13
12. Notre Dame,        144 RV
[b][u]13. Cornell,           119 11[/u][/b]
14. Northeastern,       92 9
[b][u]15. Yale,               27 14[/u][/b]

Others receiving votes: Minnesota State, 14; Vermont, 13; [b][u]Colgate, 10[/u][/b]; Alaska, 2.



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CHN PWR

Rk Team       PCWs RPI Rk preRPI QWB-† W-L-T Win % Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 Minnesota 58 .6012 2 .5922 .0090 23-4-5 .7969 .7872
2 Boston College 57 .6012 1 .5932 .0080 25-5-4 .7941 .8047
[b][u]3 Union        55 .5818 3 .5772 .0046 24-6-4 .7647 .7688[/u][/b]
4 St. Cloud State 55 .5602 4 .5546 .0055 19-8-5 .6719 .6606
5 Wisconsin 54 .5586 5 .5538 .0048 19-9-2 .6667 .6538
6 Ferris State 53 .5584 6 .5576 .0008 23-9-3 .7000 .7246
[b][u]7 Quinnipiac 52 .5542 8 .5496 .0046 22-8-6 .6944 .6903[/u][/b]
8 Mass.-Lowell 51 .5546 7 .5506 .0040 21-9-4 .6765 .6766
9 North Dakota 50 .5516 9 .5487 .0030 19-10-3 .6406 .6369
10 Notre Dame 49 .5458 10 .5399 .0059 20-12-2 .6176 .5975
11 Providence 47 .5456 11 .5417 .0039 19-9-6 .6471 .6404
12 Michigan 46 .5430 12 .5393 .0037 16-10-4 .6000 .6069
[b][u]13 Cornell 45 .5407 13 .5388 .0019 15-8-5 .6250 .6259[/u][/b]
14 Vermont 45 .5392 14 .5366 .0026 18-12-3 .5909 .5833
15 Northeastern 44 .5387 15 .5324 .0063 18-12-4 .5882 .5901
[b][u]16 Colgate 43 .5351 17 .5277 .0074 17-12-5 .5735 .5632[/u][/b]


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USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
March 03, 2014
Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 34- 1-1 150 1
2 Wisconsin 27- 6-2 126 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 27- 4-5 125 3[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 26- 5-3 104 4
[b][u]5 Cornell        22- 5-4 87 6
6 Harvard        23- 5-4 76 5
7 Quinnipiac 22- 5-9 50 7[/u][/b]
8 Mercyhurst 22- 7-4 45 8
9 North Dakota 19-11-4 33 9
10 Robert Morris 24- 7-3 23 10
Others receiving votes: Boston University 3, Northeastern 2, Minnesota-Duluth 1.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz2uwaVMej6



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Women's Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank Team        PWR W-L-T Win % Win %   RPI RPI Rank
                                                Rank
1 Minnesota 16 34-1-1 .9583 1 .6738* 1
2 Wisconsin 15 27-6-2 .8000 4 .6049* 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 14 27-4-5 .8194 2 .6019* 3
4 Cornell        13 22-5-4 .7742 6 .5966* 4[/u][/b]
5 Boston College 12 26-5-3 .8088 3 .5928* 5
[b][u]6 Harvard        11 23-5-4 .7812 5 .5889* 6[/u][/b]
7 Robert Morris 10 24-7-3 .7500 7 .5638* 8
8 Mercyhurst 9 22-7-4 .7273 9 .5626* 9
[b]9 Quinnipiac 8 22-5-9 .7361 8 .5661* 7[/b]
10 North Dakota 7 19-11-4 .6176 12 .5516 10
11t Boston Univ 5 22-12-1 .6429 10 .5381 11
11t Northeastern 5 19-13-2 .5882 14 .5225 12
13t Minnesota-Duluth4 15-14-6 .5143 18 .5196 13
13t Syracuse 4 20-13-3 .5972 13 .5176 14
15 Ohio State 2 15-17-5 .4730 19 .5027 16
[b][u]16 Princeton 1 14-13-4 .5161 17 .5113 15[/u][/b]
17 Vermont        0 18-13-4 .5714 15 .5027 17

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz2uwanohKR



[Jim Hyla]

So who are the better prognosticators?

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Coaches' preseason poll
                         Ended
1. Yale       (4) - 103  6
2. Rensselaer (2) - 102  7
3. Quinnipiac (2) - 93   3
    Union     (2) - 93   1
5. Cornell    (1) - 89   4
6. Harvard        - 67  11
7. Dartmouth  (1) - 64  10
8. Brown          - 46   9
9. Colgate        - 44   2
10. St. Lawrence  - 43   8
11. Princeton     - 26  12
12. Clarkson      - 22   5

ECAC Hockey Media Association's 2013-14 preseason poll
                          Ended
1. Rensselaer (18) - 367  7
2. Yale        (5) - 224  6
3. Quinnipiac  (6) - 292  3
4. Union       (3) - 287  1
5. Cornell     (1) - 238  4
   Dartmouth       - 238 10
7. St. Lawrence    - 212  8
8. Brown           - 188  9
9. Colgate         - 125  2
10.Harvard         - 108 11
11.Princeton       - 102 12
12.Clarkson        -  83  5


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                            Preseason
Final Season        Pts Coaches Media
1 Union        37      4   4
2 Colgate 29      9   9
3 Quinnipiac 28      3   3
4 Cornell 26      5   5
5 Clarkson 24     12  12
Yale        24      1   2
7 Rensselaer 21      2   1
8 St. Lawrence 18     10   7
9 Brown        17      8   8
10 Dartmouth 16      7   6
Harvard 16      6  10
12 Princeton 8      11  11


[KeithK]

Whichever coach picked Dartmouth to finish first is clearly the worst prognosticator.

[French Rage]

So who are the better prognosticators?

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Coaches' preseason poll
                         Ended
1. Yale       (4) - 103  6
2. Rensselaer (2) - 102  7
3. Quinnipiac (2) - 93   3
    Union     (2) - 93   1
5. Cornell    (1) - 89   4
6. Harvard        - 67  11
7. Dartmouth  (1) - 64  10
8. Brown          - 46   9
9. Colgate        - 44   2
10. St. Lawrence  - 43   8
11. Princeton     - 26  12
12. Clarkson      - 22   5

ECAC Hockey Media Association's 2013-14 preseason poll
                          Ended
1. Rensselaer (18) - 367  7
2. Yale        (5) - 224  6
3. Quinnipiac  (6) - 292  3
4. Union       (3) - 287  1
5. Cornell     (1) - 238  4
   Dartmouth       - 238 10
7. St. Lawrence    - 212  8
8. Brown           - 188  9
9. Colgate         - 125  2
10.Harvard         - 108 11
11.Princeton       - 102 12
12.Clarkson        -  83  5


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                            Preseason
Final Season        Pts Coaches Media
1 Union        37      4   4
2 Colgate 29      9   9
3 Quinnipiac 28      3   3
4 Cornell 26      5   5
5 Clarkson 24     12  12
Yale        24      1   2
7 Rensselaer 21      2   1
8 St. Lawrence 18     10   7
9 Brown        17      8   8
10 Dartmouth 16      7   6
Harvard 16      6  10
12 Princeton 8      11  11


Well, who is?  Eyeball test says the media by a hair, but neither did great, and I can't so a sum of squares in my head.

[gatefan]

So who are the better prognosticators?

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Coaches' preseason poll
                         Ended
1. Yale       (4) - 103  6
2. Rensselaer (2) - 102  7
3. Quinnipiac (2) - 93   3
    Union     (2) - 93   1
5. Cornell    (1) - 89   4
6. Harvard        - 67  11
7. Dartmouth  (1) - 64  10
8. Brown          - 46   9
9. Colgate        - 44   2
10. St. Lawrence  - 43   8
11. Princeton     - 26  12
12. Clarkson      - 22   5

ECAC Hockey Media Association's 2013-14 preseason poll
                          Ended
1. Rensselaer (18) - 367  7
2. Yale        (5) - 224  6
3. Quinnipiac  (6) - 292  3
4. Union       (3) - 287  1
5. Cornell     (1) - 238  4
   Dartmouth       - 238 10
7. St. Lawrence    - 212  8
8. Brown           - 188  9
9. Colgate         - 125  2
10.Harvard         - 108 11
11.Princeton       - 102 12
12.Clarkson        -  83  5


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                            Preseason
Final Season        Pts Coaches Media
1 Union        37      4   4
2 Colgate 29      9   9
3 Quinnipiac 28      3   3
4 Cornell 26      5   5
5 Clarkson 24     12  12
Yale        24      1   2
7 Rensselaer 21      2   1
8 St. Lawrence 18     10   7
9 Brown        17      8   8
10 Dartmouth 16      7   6
Harvard 16      6  10
12 Princeton 8      11  11


Well, who is?  Eyeball test says the media by a hair, but neither did great, and I can't so a sum of squares in my head.

I'd say the coaches did worst, mainly because of Harvard. Year after year, they keep picking Harvard in the top half, and except in 2011-12 (I actually think they didn't pick them top half) they have been disappointing since losing that first round series to Brown in 2009.

[marty]

So who are the better prognosticators?

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Coaches' preseason poll
                         Ended
1. Yale       (4) - 103  6
2. Rensselaer (2) - 102  7
3. Quinnipiac (2) - 93   3
    Union     (2) - 93   1
5. Cornell    (1) - 89   4
6. Harvard        - 67  11
7. Dartmouth  (1) - 64  10
8. Brown          - 46   9
9. Colgate        - 44   2
10. St. Lawrence  - 43   8
11. Princeton     - 26  12
12. Clarkson      - 22   5

ECAC Hockey Media Association's 2013-14 preseason poll
                          Ended
1. Rensselaer (18) - 367  7
2. Yale        (5) - 224  6
3. Quinnipiac  (6) - 292  3
4. Union       (3) - 287  1
5. Cornell     (1) - 238  4
   Dartmouth       - 238 10
7. St. Lawrence    - 212  8
8. Brown           - 188  9
9. Colgate         - 125  2
10.Harvard         - 108 11
11.Princeton       - 102 12
12.Clarkson        -  83  5


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                            Preseason
Final Season        Pts Coaches Media
1 Union        37      4   4
2 Colgate 29      9   9
3 Quinnipiac 28      3   3
4 Cornell 26      5   5
5 Clarkson 24     12  12
Yale        24      1   2
7 Rensselaer 21      2   1
8 St. Lawrence 18     10   7
9 Brown        17      8   8
10 Dartmouth 16      7   6
Harvard 16      6  10
12 Princeton 8      11  11


Well, who is?  Eyeball test says the media by a hair, but neither did great, and I can't so a sum of squares in my head.

I'd say the coaches did worst, mainly because of Harvard. Year after year, they keep picking Harvard in the top half, and except in 2011-12 (I actually think they didn't pick them top half) they have been disappointing since losing that first round series to Brown in 2009.

They are trying to fool the AD at Harvard into thinking that Teddy is worth keeping on the Cantab's payroll. ;-)

[Trotsky]

Well, who is?  Eyeball test says the media by a hair, but neither did great, and I can't so a sum of squares in my head.

I can't either, but I'll tell you this -- it aint TBRW.  It picked Colgate 12th.  Nothing like a 100 cell value (greater than many entire league runs) to ruin your prediction.

Media wins by a smidge.

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Coach Media TBRW Coach Media TBRW
1 Uni 4 4 3 3 3 2
2 Col 9 9 12 7 7 10
3 Qpc 3 3 2 0 0 -1
4 Cor 5 5 5 1 1 1
5 Clk 12 12 10 7 7 5
6 Yal 1 2 7 -5 -4 1
7 RPI 2 1 1 -5 -6 -6
8 SLU 10 7 4 2 -1 -4
9 Brn 8 8 6 -1 -1 -3
10 Drt 7 6 8 -3 -4 -2
11 Hvd 6 10 9 -5 -1 -2
12 Prn 11 11 11 -1 -1 -1
198 180 202

[marty]

Well, who is?  Eyeball test says the media by a hair, but neither did great, and I can't so a sum of squares in my head.

I can't either, but I'll tell you this -- it aint TBRW.  It picked Colgate 12th.  Nothing like a 100 cell value (greater than many entire league runs) to ruin your prediction.

Media wins by a smidge.

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Coach Media TBRW Coach Media TBRW
1 Uni 4 4 3 3 3 2
2 Col 9 9 12 7 7 10
3 Qpc 3 3 2 0 0 -1
4 Cor 5 5 5 1 1 1
5 Clk 12 12 10 7 7 5
6 Yal 1 2 7 -5 -4 1
7 RPI 2 1 1 -5 -6 -6
8 SLU 10 7 4 2 -1 -4
9 Brn 8 8 6 -1 -1 -3
10 Drt 7 6 8 -3 -4 -2
11 Hvd 6 10 9 -5 -1 -2
12 Prn 11 11 11 -1 -1 -1
198 180 202

You do get points for picking Clarkson tenth rather than twelfth.

[Trotsky]

You do get points for picking Clarkson tenth rather than twelfth.

This year's good prediction was that Yale would regress, which was projected from Yale's 2013 ECAC upset loss and second half drop, and the loss of their goaltending and a substantial amount of their offense.

Then again, the other team that was supposed to crater by those metrics was... Colgate.  Oh well.

The teams possibly in trouble in 2014-15 based on loss of senior scoring will be: Clarkson (losing 4 of their top 5 scorers), Princeton (4/6 including Caloff), Quinnipiac (3/5: the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas), St. Lawrence (3/5 including Greg Carey's 181 career points), Union (3/5 including Carr and Bodie), and Yale again (3/4, including Root and Agostino).

Far and away the greatest impact from loss in goal will be us.  Brown (DeFilippo), Harvard (Girard), and St. Lawrence (Weninger) all either have credible backups or are losing unimpressive incumbents.

[Jim Hyla]

You do get points for picking Clarkson tenth rather than twelfth.

This year's good prediction was that Yale would regress, which was projected from Yale's 2013 ECAC upset loss and second half drop, and the loss of their goaltending and a substantial amount of their offense.

Then again, the other team that was supposed to crater by those metrics was... Colgate.  Oh well.

The teams possibly in trouble in 2014-15 based on loss of senior scoring will be: Clarkson (losing 4 of their top 5 scorers), Princeton (4/6 including Caloff), Quinnipiac (3/5: the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas), St. Lawrence (3/5 including Greg Carey's 181 career points), Union (3/5 including Carr and Bodie), and Yale again (3/4, including Root and Agostino).

Far and away the greatest impact from loss in goal will be us.  Brown (DeFilippo), Harvard (Girard), and St. Lawrence (Weninger) all either have credible backups or are losing unimpressive incumbents.

What a surprise, possibly?

[Rosey]

You do get points for picking Clarkson tenth rather than twelfth.

This year's good prediction was that Yale would regress, which was projected from Yale's 2013 ECAC upset loss and second half drop, and the loss of their goaltending and a substantial amount of their offense.

Then again, the other team that was supposed to crater by those metrics was... Colgate.  Oh well.

The teams possibly in trouble in 2014-15 based on loss of senior scoring will be: Clarkson (losing 4 of their top 5 scorers), Princeton (4/6 including Caloff), Quinnipiac (3/5: the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas), St. Lawrence (3/5 including Greg Carey's 181 career points), Union (3/5 including Carr and Bodie), and Yale again (3/4, including Root and Agostino).

Far and away the greatest impact from loss in goal will be us.  Brown (DeFilippo), Harvard (Girard), and St. Lawrence (Weninger) all either have credible backups or are losing unimpressive incumbents.

I can't wait for the follow-up thread, "Not-Andy Iles by the numbers".

[Trotsky]

What a surprise, possibly?

Possibly in the sense of if other teams lose more to defections then those teams may not wind up looking too bad.

Edit: oh, I get it, Princeton.  Yeah, that could be a serious train wreck, but then again Cornell did pretty well in 1988.

[Trotsky]

I can't wait for the follow-up thread, "Not-Andy Iles by the numbers".

Or "Iles is not an answer."

[Swampy]

You do get points for picking Clarkson tenth rather than twelfth.

This year's good prediction was that Yale would regress, which was projected from Yale's 2013 ECAC upset loss and second half drop, and the loss of their goaltending and a substantial amount of their offense.

Then again, the other team that was supposed to crater by those metrics was... Colgate.  Oh well.

The teams possibly in trouble in 2014-15 based on loss of senior scoring will be: Clarkson (losing 4 of their top 5 scorers), Princeton (4/6 including Caloff), Quinnipiac (3/5: the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas), St. Lawrence (3/5 including Greg Carey's 181 career points), Union (3/5 including Carr and Bodie), and Yale again (3/4, including Root and Agostino).

Far and away the greatest impact from loss in goal will be us.  Brown (DeFilippo), Harvard (Girard), and St. Lawrence (Weninger) all either have credible backups or are losing unimpressive incumbents.

Is it too early to start a "Gillam is not the answer" thread?