Weekend Not Yet a Sellout

[KeithK]

[quote redhair34][quote Ben Rocky 04]81-game soldout streak is dead.  A damn shame.[/quote]

Yup.  If you're going to schedule a non-conference game against a weak and unknown opponent on a weekday night and charge $18 for the tickets, expect to have tickets left.[/quote]Or maybe we now know (based on this game and the fact that student season tickets didn't sell out) know that Lynah really didn't much need an expansion?  It's a lot easier to sell $18 tickets when you know the place will be full.

[ithacat]

[quote KeithK][quote redhair34][quote Ben Rocky 04]81-game soldout streak is dead.  A damn shame.[/quote]

Yup.  If you're going to schedule a non-conference game against a weak and unknown opponent on a weekday night and charge $18 for the tickets, expect to have tickets left.[/quote]Or maybe we now know (based on this game and the fact that student season tickets didn't sell out) know that Lynah really didn't much need an expansion?  It's a lot easier to sell $18 tickets when you know the place will be full.[/quote]

There are still 400 people on the season ticket waiting list. I don't know what arcane methodology is being used in this process -- any guesses? I do know someone who called the ticket office on Thursday and asked to buy season seats and was told he had to go to the end of the list. And the place isn't sold out?

I don't think prices are the issue, at least not for non-student tickets.

[Ben Rocky '04]

The fucking SA better get its shit together post-Tim Lim and get the undergrad tickets back to a resonable price.

[KeithK]

[quote Ben Rocky 04]The fucking SA better get its shit together post-Tim Lim and get the undergrad tickets back to a resonable price.[/quote]I like the idea of student activity fees subsidizing student tickets to athletic events. Heck I was part of the crew that originally pushed the measure through for graduate students.  But since when is it the Student Assembly's fault that ticket prices are "unreasonable"?  Shouldn't you direct your ire towards Andy Noel and the Athletics Department staff who set ticket prices?  (They'll ignore you, of course, but they're the ones at "fault".)

[jtwcornell91]

[quote KeithK][quote Ben Rocky 04]The fucking SA better get its shit together post-Tim Lim and get the undergrad tickets back to a resonable price.[/quote]I like the idea of student activity fees subsidizing student tickets to athletic events. Heck I was part of the crew that originally pushed the measure through for graduate students.  But since when is it the Student Assembly's fault that ticket prices are "unreasonable"?  Shouldn't you direct your ire towards Andy Noel and the Athletics Department staff who set ticket prices?  (They'll ignore you, of course, but they're the ones at "fault".)[/quote]

Considering how much the cost of Townie and Booster tickets has shot up, the AD seems like a good place to look for blame.

[Ben Rocky '04]

The stupid freakin' SA dropped their subsidy for tickets, causing stupid freakin' Andy Noel to up the price for undergrad hockey tickets, and make all other athletic events have entrance fees for undergrads.  I guess I'll just take any excuse to call the SA stupid, just as everyone on this forum (including me) will take any excuse to call Andy Noel stupid.

Cheap athletic events build a favorable impression of the school with the local community, and keep us alumni with the $$ (haha, sure I have $$) happy and giving.  Andy Noel should realize this (or, on the day after the launch of the huge $$-raising program, someone from day hall should beat it into his thick skull) and fix the fucking problem.  If wishes were horses....

[DeltaOne81]

[quote Ben Rocky 04]The stupid freakin' SA dropped their subsidy for tickets, causing stupid freakin' Andy Noel to up the price for undergrad hockey tickets, and make all other athletic events have entrance fees for undergrads.  I guess I'll just take any excuse to call the SA stupid, just as everyone on this forum (including me) will take any excuse to call Andy Noel stupid.[/quote]

As I understood it, athletics didn't get their application in on time for an earlier deadline. Not that the SA doesn't share some blame, as I understand it they didn't *choose* to drop the subidy. Is that incorrect?

[imafrshmn]

Athletics should set a cutoff date for students to pick up season tickets and then sell what remains to the general public/students as day-of-game seats.  They'd make more money doing that anyway, and at least some townies who've been looking for seats can enjoy the games.

[bandrews37]

Saturday's game is sold out. Blame not the incompetant AD, but the BS rules that require the department to hold aside X number of tickets for visiting schools, only to have them return X - 25 of the tickets they were alotted.

[Josh '99]

[quote bandrews37]Saturday's game is sold out. Blame not the incompetant AD, but the BS rules that require the department to hold aside X number of tickets for visiting schools, only to have them return X - 25 of the tickets they were alotted.[/quote]It's tough to blame those rules when the returned tickets get sold within a day for the vast majority of games.

[KeithK]

[quote Ben Rocky 04]The stupid freakin' SA dropped their subsidy for tickets, causing stupid freakin' Andy Noel to up the price for undergrad hockey tickets, and make all other athletic events have entrance fees for undergrads.[/quote]Before the SA started putting up activity fee money hockey tickets were more expensive and other sports charged a fee. In this case the AD was just going back to the earlier system.

I don't disagree with you about sporting events have positive externalities.  We're not talking about a pro sports team that really only cares about profit. But the AD is supposed to be relatively self-supporting so revenue has to be a priority. Replacing one student sourced revenue stream (the activty fee) with another (ticket prices) isn't that unreasonable.

I guess I'll just take any excuse to call the SA stupid, just as everyone on this forum (including me) will take any excuse to call Andy Noel stupid.

That I can agree with.  The SA has pretty much always been a useless organization worthy of being called stupid.

[saff678]

But I think it's important to note that for those of us who are used to the system where the SA subsidizes the sporting events, but isn't this year, we are paying the same student activities fee as last year, but not getting the same benefit. Sure, it's just part of the system that some clubs get money and some dont, and some clubs are better attended than others. But still, athletics is probably one of the best organizations for the SA to subsidize if they want to reach a large population of students.

[Lauren '06]

[quote saff678]But I think it's important to note that for those of us who are used to the system where the SA subsidizes the sporting events, but isn't this year, we are paying the same student activities fee as last year, but not getting the same benefit. Sure, it's just part of the system that some clubs get money and some dont, and some clubs are better attended than others. But still, athletics is probably one of the best organizations for the SA to subsidize if they want to reach a large population of students.[/quote]
Maybe this is wrongheaded of me, but something that really pissed me off when I had dealings with the SA and the SAFC was that Cornell Bhangra was always the organization that got the most funding.  Not club sports, not the marching band or the pep band, not the student research organizations or outreach clubs that perform necessary services for the university... Bhangra.  What?

[Liz '05]

[quote Section A Banshee]
Maybe this is wrongheaded of me, but something that really pissed me off when I had dealings with the SA and the SAFC was that Cornell Bhangra was always the organization that got the most funding.  Not club sports, not the marching band or the pep band, not the student research organizations or outreach clubs that perform necessary services for the university... Bhangra.  What?[/quote]

I liked Bhangra, but...really?  How odd.

[Omie]

You should quit blaming the SA for ticket prices.
1. Athletics didn't turn in their application on time, period. The SA even tried to get them to turn it in at the beginning of the Fall to include them but Athletics slacked and gave their info post-student activy fee being set and being approved by the trustees.
2. I have many many friends who have gotten hockey tickets before and the reason they didn't this year is because of the price. $260 is way too much for many of us, and although some of us will look for that kind of money others can't period and that does not make them any less faithful just poor lynah faithful.
3. Sadly there is also a lot of people going around saying the team sucks this year, blah, blah. I correct them whenever I can but that is partly the reason why season tickets didn't sell out.
4. Going back to Athletics. It is on the red fiscally and took to the opportunity of them loosing byline funding (their own fault) to impose prices and increade student season ticket by 60%! Andy Noel's fiscal irresponsability is all their is to blame.
5. It is also wrong to say that students are seeing the benefit og the activity fee now that athletics is not byline funded because now or ridiculously large number of student organizations are getting more money (closer to what they ask to) from before when they would get alloted a money and then there was a percentage set to cut off of what was alloted because there was not enough money. The problem is not the activity fee raising is that there are way too many organizations a lot of them with overlapping interests.

PS I hate Tim Lim as much as anyone, but the ticket prices is not the SA's fault.