Recruits 2006 - the Offseason thread

[profudge]

Hi folks,
 Just thought I'd ask for some ideas?   I have a cousin (16 yr old) Midget AAA high level player from Lansing/Ann Arbor  Michigan area who is going to visit Cornell 4/18 jsut to see the campus and talk to folks -  he dreams of playing top div 1 level hockey and or Lax - he's good at both and basically a 4.0 student in HS  -  I am going to host him and his Dad overnight on their visit -   Hoping to make a positive impression.  (I know how good and competitive both his parents are!)  He has lotsa choices  leaning to D III so he can play both lax and Hockey.  Coach at Middlebury is after him and might be a good fit;  but What about chances for playing both at Cornell - ??  comments  
   
Or reasons to pick Cornell over D-III good school like Middlebury or Williams etc.

Note he visits BU and BC  later in week - his mom is running in the Boston Marathon.

[Beeeej]

I think it's probably far more difficult these days at the Div. I level than it used to be to play both hockey and lacrosse seriously.  He may truly be better off at a Div. III school if that is his most fervent wish and his overriding criterion.  Plus, you can hardly beat Middlebury hockey for a chance at a national title, if you're willing to acknowledge that maybe you're the big-fish-in-little-pond type rather than someone with the potential to make an impact in D-I.

If I were you, I'd let most things speak for themselves; show him and his father around the campus, show them the Campaign for Lynah Rink DVD if you have it (and if you don't, you can get one from Athletics Development), and maybe even show them the eLynah Forum - short of getting him to a game, which you can't do this time of year, this may be the best way of demonstrating how much Cornellians care about their hockey.  There's nothing to guarantee that Coach would think this particular kid fits into Cornell's plans, but there's certainly no harm in helping the kid want to try.

Beeeej

[calgARI '07]

Justin Milo will be plaing both hockey and baseball but it is very uncommon for someone to play two DI sports, though not unheard of.

[DeltaOne81]

Ben Lovejoy of the Dartmouth men's hockey team also plays lacrosse. They were talking about him quite a bit during the ND/Dartmouth lax game on CSTV this week, as he'd just returned to the team. So its not unprecedented, nor impossible, but it is quite rare.

Between you and me, I hear Lovejoy also Offers Devine Johnson Swallow... but that could just be a rumor.

[profudge]

Beeej,   and all  thanks for the input -  
He will be seen at camps/tourneys he attends over the next year - I think Bowling Green is coming up soon and most schools have one or 2 coaches there -  I agree the D III may be his best bet if he truly wants to compete in both sports -  

He plans on touring campus and looking at Lynah - he has played with a lot of good kids the last several years several on Nat U18 team now or in good programs.

Hope to see and meet folks at Frozen Four in Milwaukee -

[KeithK]

[quote calgARI '07]... but it is very uncommon for someone to play two DI sports, though not unheard of.[/quote]And that's one of the things that are wrong with college sports these days.  All of youth sports for that matter.  It's great to be superior at your sport, but participation in multiple sports and multiple activities is something that should be encouraged as much as possible.[/soapbox]

(I was about to write, "I'll get down from my soapbox now".  But then do I ever really get down?)

[Rosey]

[quote KeithK]And that's one of the things that are wrong with college sports these days.[/quote]
But it sounds like it's much more common at the D-III level, where being good enough to letter in two sports is likely for a well-motivated athlete.

To be competitive at the D-I level in one of the big sports, it's likely you simply need to eat, sleep, and breathe that one particular sport.  I don't think this is either good or bad; it simply is.  If you want to see the highest level of play in your favorite D-I team, there are simply other characteristics that are going to go along with that.

Kyle

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

[quote fenwick]There may be somewhat of a precedent for Davenport's situation.  Roy Kerling did not play what would have been his sophomore season at Cornell (78-79 -- I'm under the impression that he left due to academic difficulties, but I may be mistaken), and he was able to come back the next season and use his remaining three years of eligibility.  I don't know if he had to petition anybody or not.

[/quote]

Kerling did miss a semester due to grades.  What he did:

    - Screw up the spring semester.
    - Get forced to take a semester off
    - Take courses at TC3 during the fall.
    - Practice with the team (but don't play)
    - Return in the following spring.

Steve Hennessey did the same thing the year before.

[KeithK]

[quote Jeff Hopkins '82][quote fenwick]There may be somewhat of a precedent for Davenport's situation.  Roy Kerling did not play what would have been his sophomore season at Cornell (78-79 -- I'm under the impression that he left due to academic difficulties, but I may be mistaken), and he was able to come back the next season and use his remaining three years of eligibility.  I don't know if he had to petition anybody or not.

[/quote]

Kerling did miss a semester due to grades.  What he did:

    - Screw up the spring semester.
    - Get forced to take a semester off
    - Take courses at TC3 during the fall.
    - Practice with the team (but don't play)
    - Return in the following spring.

Steve Hennessey did the same thing the year before.[/quote]I seem to recall that P.C. Drouin '96 spent a semester at TC3 as well.

[bigred06]

Mike Karwoski of yale also plays on the lacrosse team.

[nyc94]

[quote KeithK]I seem to recall that P.C. Drouin '96 spent a semester at TC3 as well.[/quote]

I had a housemate that referred to him as TC3 Drouin.

[Rita]

[quote nyc94][quote KeithK]I seem to recall that P.C. Drouin '96 spent a semester at TC3 as well.[/quote]

I had a housemate that referred to him as TC3 Drouin.[/quote]

Yeah, I remember that nickname too.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]
Kerling did miss a semester due to grades.  What he did:

    - Screw up the spring semester.
    - Get forced to take a semester off
    - Take courses at TC3 during the fall.
    - Practice with the team (but don't play)
    - Return in the following spring.

Steve Hennessey did the same thing the year before.[/quote]

Was there a high highball involved?

[canuck89]

Agreed, the best competition for a sport will come from those who love that sport and only that sport.

[David Harding]

In case you haven't seen these web sites, you should read them:
For potential recruits: http://cornellbigred.cstv.com/school-bio/corn-recruiting.html
For alumni interested in recruiting: http://caaan.admissions.cornell.edu/images/NCAA.pdf