free food (or drink)

[ugarte]

Wesley Snipes will be getting free food for the next three years. (I didn't want to start a new thread.)

[Rita]

[quote ugarte]Wesley Snipes will be getting free food for the next three years. (I didn't want to start a new thread.)[/quote]

Or a new forum: "Wesley Snipes Has Been Convicted". WSHBC doesn't flow as nicely as JSID. **]

[KeithK]

[quote ugarte]Wesley Snipes will be getting free food for the next three years. (I didn't want to start a new thread.)[/quote]
My first reaction was that three years in prison for three misdemeanor counts of tax evasion was pretty harsh (he was acquitted on the felony charges).  But then I read this bit in the ABC news story:

Snipes withheld tax returns based on his belief that the Internal Revenue Service is not a properly established government agency. According to the memo filed today, Snipes also contended that he did not file business returns because he "was personally not subject to taxation because he was a 'stateless person' or 'nonresident alien,'" or a "'nontaxpayer,'" which prosecutors flatly rejected.

Uh, right.  I'd like to repeal the 16th Amendment too.  But this is ridiculous.  Sometimes morons get what they deserve.

[ugarte]

[quote KeithK][quote ugarte]Wesley Snipes will be getting free food for the next three years. (I didn't want to start a new thread.)[/quote]
My first reaction was that three years in prison for three misdemeanor counts of tax evasion was pretty harsh (he was acquitted on the felony charges).  But then I read this bit in the ABC news story:

Snipes withheld tax returns based on his belief that the Internal Revenue Service is not a properly established government agency. According to the memo filed today, Snipes also contended that he did not file business returns because he "was personally not subject to taxation because he was a 'stateless person' or 'nonresident alien,'" or a "'nontaxpayer,'" which prosecutors flatly rejected.

Uh, right.  I'd like to repeal the 16th Amendment too.  But this is ridiculous.  Sometimes morons get what they deserve.[/quote]
He not only didn't file taxes, he filed applications for refunds for millions of dollars in taxes that he had paid in prior years and he swamped the IRS with tax-protester-nonsense correspondence. Three years does seem very high, actually, but he was probably not only the most famous person to join in the tax protester nonsense*, but also probably the richest. On the other hand, the big accounting firms routinely come up with "borderline" tax shelters for people that make Wesley Snipes look like a pauper, and a three-year bid for the taxpayer is extremely rare.

* There are rational arguments for the immorality and impracticality of the tax system but there is literally no valid argument under the Constitution or the tax code for the illegality of the income tax.

I apologize. Back to your regular posting of free coffee and sandwiches. (Though I'd continue the conversation in PM. I find the tax protester world fascinating.)

[RichH]

[quote ugarte]I apologize. Back to your regular posting of free coffee and sandwiches. (Though I'd continue the conversation in PM. I find the tax protester world fascinating.)[/quote]

[quote KeithK]Uh, right. I'd like to repeal the 16th Amendment too. But this is ridiculous. Sometimes morons get what they deserve.[/quote]

Well, I just set a timer to see how long it takes for Kyle to show up.  Hopefully he can start the new thread.

[Rita]

[quote RichH][quote ugarte]I apologize. Back to your regular posting of free coffee and sandwiches. (Though I'd continue the conversation in PM. I find the tax protester world fascinating.)[/quote]

[quote KeithK]Uh, right. I'd like to repeal the 16th Amendment too. But this is ridiculous. Sometimes morons get what they deserve.[/quote]

Well, I just set a timer to see how long it takes for Kyle to show up.  Hopefully he can start the new thread.[/quote]

I am wondering the same thing (about Kyle's response time). ::popcorn::

I was tempted to post something about Ugarte's blatant "come-on" line earlier but wasn't (and am still not!) quite sure how to phrase it. Well, at least Ugarte offered to "get a room". ;-)

[Rosey]

[quote RichH]Well, I just set a timer to see how long it takes for Kyle to show up.  Hopefully he can start the new thread.[/quote]
I know better than to argue with committed statists. ;-)

Nonetheless, Keith has it right: tax protesting is nonsense.  The government can tax you because they have more and bigger guns than you do.  It's as simple as that.  Trying to argue with them about the meaning of the laws they create, interpret, and enforce is the height of idiocy and serves only to illustrate how he completely misses the point.

Kyle

[mnagowski]

Trying to argue with ourselves about the meaning of the laws we create, interpret, and enforce...

Just to be that guy, I fixed your post. Insert some sort of G.B. Shaw quote here.

[Rosey]

[quote mnagowski]

Trying to argue with ourselves about the meaning of the laws we create, interpret, and enforce...

Just to be that guy, I fixed your post. Insert some sort of G.B. Shaw quote here.[/quote]

There's nothing that pisses me off more than putting words in my mouth out of ignorance. :-D

I'll refer you to a recent post I made on my own forum:

We vote in all governors, mayors, and state senators.

I don't do any of those things. Nobody I have ever voted for has ever been elected to office.

The enemy is us.

Speak for yourself.

http://pmpub.krose.org/forum?action=view&forum_id=2&message_id=274604

Kyle

[Chris '03]

Bump for free ice cream at Ben and Jerry's!

[judy]

Free Cone Day!

[Josh '99]

Wow, did you two plan that?

[ugarte]

Not totally free, but if you live near a Baskin-Robbins, tonight is "31-cent Scoop Night".

[DeltaOne81]

[quote ugarte]Not totally free, but if you live near a Baskin-Robbins, tonight is "31-cent Scoop Night".[/quote]

According to their webpage it was yesterday.

... jerk

[ugarte]

[quote DeltaOne81][quote ugarte]Not totally free, but if you live near a Baskin-Robbins, tonight is "31-cent Scoop Night".[/quote]

According to their webpage it was yesterday.

... jerk[/quote]
Mea culpa - it was in my facebook newsfeed this morning and I didn't read the details. It was obviously lingering around from yesterday.