Cornell vs. Clarkson, Game 2 POSTGAME

[andyw2100]

schoaff:
As O'Byrne reaches the player O'Byrne and the Clarkson player are already turning toward their right to play the puck. OB's gloves never come up above his waist, and although it looks like O'Byrne's left glove does shove the Clarkson player as he turns toward the puck it looks like the Clarkson player was already on his way down (having perhaps lost an edge?) when O'Byrne reaches him. One could argue that it's even more dangerous to hit a player who's already falling in to the board, but it was pretty clear that both players were intent on turning to play the puck when they probably made contact.

I hadn't commented on this because I don't have the benefit of being able to watch the replay, and just figured that I was wrong. So I kept mum. But now that schoaff has opened the door for me...

As the play happened, it looked to me like the Clarkson player was in the process of going down before OB had done much of anything, other than just normal contact. I actually thought the Clarkson player might have slipped or caught an edge, and that his winding up in the boards had little to do with O'Byrne. The assistant ref who made the call was on the opposite side of the rink. Hansen was much closer to the play, and in better position to see the players.

And as someone else has said, the fact that the assistant ref decided to "overrule" the ref, on a play that the ref clearly saw, in a situation where the ref has pretty much decided to "let them play" strikes me as being completely inappropriate. Hansen had apparently decided that he was only going to call the most blatant of penalties. It's not the assistant ref's role to challenge that.
                          Andy W.

[Facetimer]

All the yapping about the legitimacy of the penalty, and nobody has given Cornell the credit they deserved for killing 7 minutes of non-full strength hockey.  To go through that series of 3X3, 4X3, 4X4, 5X4 like they did (I actually had to take out a piece of paper to figure out all the penalties and when Clarkson had the man advantage) was the reason they won the game.

My two cents on the call: It was definately a penalty, it did not appear to be malicious, and the combo of Dodge/Roll did a great acting job to draw the 5 minutes/GM.

[DeltaOne81]

Just watched the penalty replay a few times again. Dodge had already lost an edge when OB, who had already lined the hit up helped his fall as he pushed him down. It was not intentional, but it *was* a hit from behind. A two or *maybe* a four - due  mostly to bad luck. But a 5 and a game, no way.

If Rich S or anyone disagrees, I would love to get you access to the video (somehow ) before you call us bias about it. So you can see it before you judge. It looked a lot worse than it actually was.

[bjybjy]

I was sitting right next to where the hit look place, but I havn't been able to watch the replay. I said outloud when OB hit the guy "Oh man, thats a penalty". It looked almost like a crosscheck to the back. OB popped the guy, and he went DOWN instantly, not like "Oh, I got hit? Well I'll take a dive" My first instinct was to look at Hanson but his back was turned. The linejudge made the call, then had to explain to Hanson what had happened.

I think it should have been a boarding call for sure, but the 5 minute and game dq I don't know about.

Tad

[redhair34]

[quote bjybjy]
I think it should have been a boarding call for sure, but the 5 minute and game dq I don't know about.
Tad[/quote]

It wasn't a DQ--just a misconduct (translation: we'll have him for the semi-final in Albany).

[cth95]

Wow!  The ten-hour round trip to get to Lynah and back (at 4:30 ::snore:: ::drive:: ) in time to work at 7:00 this morning was absolutely and completely worth it.  It was frustrating that we couldn't score more, but it blew my mind how hard the team worked throughout the game.  All of our goals were earned by simply outhustling and outmuscling the Clarkson players. I was truly impressed by the effort put out by the whole team.  This game was much more like the Colgate games and the home north country series then the more recent end of season games.  If we can keep up this level of play and knock a goal in every now and then, I think we will be in good shape.

Lynah was awesome!  Other than the idiots who cheered when Hansen got hurt and the jerks in Section E who threw stuff on the ice after the game (did they think we lost or something?), the atmosphere was unbelievable.  I had been bragging to my two friends that came with me about how great the Faithful are, and everyone more than lived up to my hyped-up descriptions.  My friends had such a good time that they can't wait to go to Albany with me.

No one has mentioned it,  but the balloon with Leggio's picture on it and "Ugly Sieve" was awesome.  It actually made it all the way from about Section C to Section O during the OT intermission so the Clarkson fans could be reminded about what they have in net.  I definitely have to add a new cheer to the list of favorites:

"Send it that way clap-clap-clapclapclap" from Sections A-G with hands pointed to Section O to get the people in M and N to keep it moving.  A new classic.

Thanks to Bill Howard and Andy for the chance to get together for a pregame dinner.  We made it to the game in plenty of time by the way  It was nice to be able to put faces with a couple of the posters here.  I hope to be able to get together with more people next weekend.

Robb, sorry you can't make it.  I was really impressed to see you in Albany last year knowing that you had traveled so far.

-Chris

[Jim Hyla]

[quote billhoward]Leggio went through about three, four water bottles a period. Does the guy have to get up a lot during the night? [/quote]Hey Bill, remember he's young enough as to not have prostate problems. :-D

[mjc]

...Oh where, oh where could Rich S be?

[jpb58]

That was my balloon, sent it from D during the second intermission.  Such a great game to end my four years at lynah: winning on my b-day, getting my balloon to O, and losing my voice in the process.  LGR!!!

[nr53]

[quote cth95]

No one has mentioned it,  but the balloon with Leggio's picture on it and "Ugly Sieve" was awesome.  It actually made it all the way from about Section C to Section O during the OT intermission so the Clarkson fans could be reminded about what they have in net.  I definitely have to add a new cheer to the list of favorites:

"Send it that way clap-clap-clapclapclap" from Sections A-G with hands pointed to Section O to get the people in M and N to keep it moving.  A new classic.
[/quote]

The balloon was actually hand carried from G to N by a friend of mine because nobody seemed to get the idea. He got it back after it was bounced around N for a while and then smacked it right into the center of O. The reaction of the Clarkson fans: Priceless :-D
I think they finally understood what we were chanting

[nr53]

I thought the crown was only ok this weekend. It got loud in OT and a few times toward the end of the 3rd period but there were stretches of relative quiet that was a bit dissapointing. At those points it felt more like a pre-season exhibition than the potential last playoff game at Lynah. That said, I was much more pleased that the crowd stayed put into the second OT on Saturday rather than on Friday when half of E, F and G were empty after the first OT.

[redhair34]

[quote nr53]That said, I was much more pleased that the crowd stayed put into the second OT on Saturday rather than on Friday when half of E, F and G were empty after the first OT.[/quote]

I actually think that some people thought the game ended in a tie after the first OT on Friday.

[canuck89]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!    ::laugh::

[Tub(a)]

[quote redhair34][quote nr53]That said, I was much more pleased that the crowd stayed put into the second OT on Saturday rather than on Friday when half of E, F and G were empty after the first OT.[/quote]

I actually think that some people thought the game ended in a tie after the first OT on Friday.[/quote]

It was probably cutting seriously into Frat party time :-(

[Dpperk29]

here is something for you all to chew on about the linesman making the call. As an official, I have discovered that infractions that happen right in front of you (within 5 feet) at the hardest to call, simply because you are a.) worried about not getting killed and b.) your field of view is so restricted, unless you are looking directly at the players, you miss it or don't see the whole thing.

now, many a time as a linesman have I told the ref to call something and he says "No, I saw it differently" or "No, I didn't call it in the beginning I am not going to call it now". Ultimatly Hansen had the final say, and it is seems to me that he made his call based on the trust he has in his linesman and he didn't see it.