36 Game Limit

Trotsky · March 07, 2006, 05:57:51 PM

What gives? Ohio State played 39 RS games this year. 2 were in Alaska, and I guess those don't count towards the total, but that still puts them 1 game over. Did they get a Papal dispensation?

cbuckser · March 07, 2006, 06:03:08 PM

[quote Trotsky]What gives? Ohio State played 39 RS games this year. 2 were in Alaska, and I guess those don't count towards the total, but that still puts them 1 game over. Did they get a Papal dispensation?[/quote]

OSU played 37 regular season games. Last weekend's two lossess to Ferris State were playoff games.

Changing the subject, how did Ohio State go from being a national-title contender to a team that finished with a losing record?

jy3 · March 07, 2006, 06:03:35 PM

hmm, i get the same calculations
but u forgot, they had playoffs their last 2 games

KeithK · March 07, 2006, 06:12:54 PM

Isn't the limit 34 games? The Alaska exemption would seem to leave the Buckeyes with 35...

Isn't it pretty ridiculous at this point to still have the exemptions for games in Alaska? The two Alaska schools have been established conference members for 10+ years.

jy3 · March 07, 2006, 06:23:24 PM

yeah but traveling that far... I mean it is a hell of a hike. isnt that why the exemptions exist? The traveling costs must be high...

cbuckser · March 07, 2006, 06:29:39 PM

[quote KeithK]Isn't the limit 34 games? The Alaska exemption would seem to leave the Buckeyes with 35...[/quote]

You're right about the 34-game limit. Might the outdoor game against Wisconsin at Lambeau Field have also been exempt? Wisconsin also appears to be a game over the limit.

KeithK · March 07, 2006, 06:38:58 PM

[quote cbuckser][quote KeithK]Isn't the limit 34 games? The Alaska exemption would seem to leave the Buckeyes with 35...[/quote]

You're right about the 34-game limit. Might the outdoor game against Wisconsin at Lambeau Field have also been exempt? Wisconsin also appears to be a game over the limit.[/quote]The Lambeau game was also the US Hockey Hall of Fame game, so it's a good bet that it might have been exempted.

DeltaOne81 · March 07, 2006, 06:52:11 PM

[quote KeithK]
Isn't it pretty ridiculous at this point to still have the exemptions for games in Alaska? The two Alaska schools have been established conference members for 10+ years.[/quote]

The Alaska exemption is for all sports. Not just hockey. And its to encourage teams to travel that far, otherwise it'd be pretty darn difficult to get any OOC home games out there (not impossible, but definitely difficult enough to be a significant inequity).

Oh, and it also applies to Hawaii. Get a hockey team in Hawaii, and then we're talking (although I figure the Ivy limit has no such exemption).

KeithK · March 07, 2006, 07:03:05 PM

OK, maybe the rule should be amended to only exempt OOC games. Seems wrong to me to give automatic exemptions to half of the WCHA and CCHA teams every year. Could the leagues turn around and boot the Alaska school then? Maybe.

Oh and before someone asks, no the exemption would not be honored by the Ivy League.

Jacob '06 · March 07, 2006, 07:24:48 PM

[quote KeithK]OK, maybe the rule should be amended to only exempt OOC games. Seems wrong to me to give automatic exemptions to half of the WCHA and CCHA teams every year. Could the leagues turn around and boot the Alaska school then? Maybe.

Oh and before someone asks, no the exemption would not be honored by the Ivy League.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure it only exempts OOC games.

RichH · March 07, 2006, 07:38:28 PM

[quote cbuckser]Changing the subject, how did Ohio State go from being a national-title contender to a team that finished with a losing record?[/quote]

That's a really, really good question. I've been somewhat keeping an eye on tOSU's season, since I had them pegged as a real FF threat ever since the Regional game last year. That was one solid team we eked by...and guess how many Seniors they lost to graduation from that game? Two. It's essentially the same team. Additionally, Caruso put up nearly identical stats this season compared with '04-'05:

'04-'05: 2.14 .917 (25-9-4)
'05-'06: 2.15 .915 (13-18-5)

The skaters they lost were Bittner (42G 10-14-24) and Spector (38G 3-4-7).

I don't have time right now to compare the rest of the offense or the nature of their losses and schedule strength right now.

Just baffling on the surface.

KeithK · March 07, 2006, 07:49:07 PM

[quote Jacob '06][quote KeithK]OK, maybe the rule should be amended to only exempt OOC games. Seems wrong to me to give automatic exemptions to half of the WCHA and CCHA teams every year. Could the leagues turn around and boot the Alaska school then? Maybe.

Oh and before someone asks, no the exemption would not be honored by the Ivy League.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure it only exempts OOC games.[/quote]I'm pretty sure that you're wrong. Minnesota has played 36 games this year (pre-WCHA playoffs) and the only exemptable games I can see on their schedule http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20052006&team=umn&gender=m are the two they played at Anchorage two weekends ago. Likewise UMD has 36, including two at UAA http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20052006&team=umd&gender=m .

redhair34 · March 07, 2006, 07:50:23 PM

[quote RichH][quote cbuckser]Changing the subject, how did Ohio State go from being a national-title contender to a team that finished with a losing record?[/quote]

That's a really, really good question. I've been somewhat keeping an eye on tOSU's season, since I had them pegged as a real FF threat ever since the Regional game last year. That was one solid team we eeked by...and guess how many Seniors they lost to graduation from that game? Two. It's essentially the same team. Additionally, Caruso put up nearly identical stats this season compared with '04-'05:

'04-'05: 2.14 .917 (25-9-4)
'05-'06: 2.15 .915 (13-18-5)

The skaters they lost were Bittner (42G 10-14-24) and Spector (38G 3-4-7).

I don't have time right now to compare the rest of the offense or the nature of their losses and schedule strength right now.

Just baffling on the surface.[/quote]

I remember a lot of OSU fans emphasizing at the end of the season how much Bittner would be missed for his leadership contributions. I think leadership is one of the first things to question, when a team with so much talent struggles.

billhoward · March 07, 2006, 08:01:11 PM

First the Ivy League needs to change its mind about post-season football.

Jacob '06 · March 07, 2006, 09:53:25 PM

[quote KeithK][quote Jacob '06][quote KeithK]OK, maybe the rule should be amended to only exempt OOC games. Seems wrong to me to give automatic exemptions to half of the WCHA and CCHA teams every year. Could the leagues turn around and boot the Alaska school then? Maybe.

Oh and before someone asks, no the exemption would not be honored by the Ivy League.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure it only exempts OOC games.[/quote]I'm pretty sure that you're wrong. Minnesota has played 36 games this year (pre-WCHA playoffs) and the only exemptable games I can see on their schedule http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20052006&team=umn&gender=m are the two they played at Anchorage two weekends ago. Likewise UMD has 36, including two at UAA http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php?season=20052006&team=umd&gender=m .[/quote]

Minnesota played UAF which is ooc.