Video Suggestions

billhoward · March 11, 2006, 01:34:38 AM

What temperature do you balance Lynah's lighting for?

redhair34 · March 11, 2006, 01:39:19 AM

Trustnduzt--

Another suggestion--could you please tell the producer that they need to actually put up the archives of the videos on the net, so folks can watch the games after they are done. Currently, the Colgate, Dartmouth and Clarkson webcasts are unavailable. I don't know if this producer has any control over this or could contact the right person, but I've called CSTV twice now to alert them to the problem without any success. Thanks for the help.

DeltaOne81 · March 11, 2006, 01:24:50 PM

Hey trust, you don't have any connection to the people who do the lax video, do you?

::help:: (the video is up, its just the same camera work problem)

French Rage · March 11, 2006, 06:48:59 PM

As much as we deservedly give crap to the webcast, I have to give props to showing the replay last night. Maybe it was possible because it was intermission, but if they can do that for goals and other big plays it would be a definite plus.

adamw · March 11, 2006, 08:07:59 PM

You guys really need to keep a wider angle on the center ice camera. I'm getting nauseous watching

Watch any NHL game and see how often it changes from the center ice camera, and take note how wide the image is. When you are too close, you have to keep jerking the camera around in order to follow the puck, and inevitably, you lose the puck. Both the audience, and the camera person.

Guess it's moot now, since this is the last weekend. But keep it in mind for the future.

PinkyGen · March 11, 2006, 10:07:55 PM

Watching the Clarkson game. You guys really have to stop zooming with the camera, especially in the OT.

If I had my preference, I would destroy those two camera's in the zones that do the extreme close-ups.

Liz '05 · March 11, 2006, 10:29:43 PM

[quote PinkyGen]Watching the Clarkson game. You guys really have to stop zooming with the camera, especially in the OT.

If I had my preference, I would destroy those two camera's in the zones that do the extreme close-ups.[/quote]

And PLEASE stop changing angles and using fades every two seconds (the beginning of 1OT is very confusing to watch). It looks more like a bad highlight reel for a commercial than a game, and it's impossible to follow, because by the time you've identified where you are and who you're watching, it's already switched.

abmarks · March 11, 2006, 11:10:36 PM

for future- you should always be able to see where the puck will end up.

You should almost always be able to see the width of the ice. And the goal shouldn't be out of any shot moving in to the zone.

Only tight zoom ever should be 1 camera on a scrum that isnt moving, with another backup shot showing the width.

And no quick pan/ zoom. The less the better - too much of that and its like a bad home movie. Just like a player, anticipate the action.

The work is apreciated, let's just improve the product...

adamw · March 11, 2006, 11:18:41 PM

Another head's up ... there should not be dissolves during game action. Less camera switching the better, in general, but definitely no dissolves. The fact that these feeds exist, however, is VERY much appreciated.

schoaff · March 11, 2006, 11:25:38 PM

And thank you very much for the replays. Awesome addition.

I never did get the sound to work for some reason (never had that problem before and the video was crystal clear so who knows), but I thought the camera work tonight was much better than yesterday.

Trustnduzt · March 11, 2006, 11:37:24 PM

Thanks. I gave a word to the producer about sticking to the wide-angle more and he said its just a matter of him getting more experience with the job - this is his first year as the producer. He said that he expects the action to be real fast, but sometime just misses the transitions between cameras. It'll certainly improve as time goes on. He also mentioned that you can't see the puck on the wide-angle view, but I said that wasn't really the issue, since most people just want to see the goal. The improvements are in the pipeline for next year so hopefully there will be a visible different for the next season.

Thanks for all your suggestions! They were duly noted :-) .

PinkyGen · March 11, 2006, 11:40:35 PM

Again, thanks for taking our suggestions.

schoaff · March 11, 2006, 11:43:47 PM

[quote Trustnduzt]He also mentioned that you can't see the puck on the wide-angle view, but I said that wasn't really the issue, since most people just want to see the goal. The improvements are in the pipeline for next year so hopefully there will be a visible different for the next season.
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You can let him know that you can't see the puck on a web feed no matter what angle he uses. Anything moving is going to pixelate because of the compression algorithm. Heck you can barely see the puck when watching a game on HDTV (remember Fox's glowing puck). However, if you show enough of the players fans can tell where the puck is just by how they position and react.

DeltaOne81 · March 12, 2006, 12:08:32 AM

[quote schoaff][quote Trustnduzt]He also mentioned that you can't see the puck on the wide-angle view, but I said that wasn't really the issue, since most people just want to see the goal. The improvements are in the pipeline for next year so hopefully there will be a visible different for the next season.
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You can let him know that you can't see the puck on a web feed no matter what angle he uses. Anything moving is going to pixelate because of the compression algorithm. Heck you can barely see the puck when watching a game on HDTV (remember Fox's glowing puck). However, if you show enough of the players fans can tell where the puck is just by how they position and react.[/quote]

My response exactly. We can really barely see the puck on the close up views. I'm sure you guys can on your feeds, but not on the web bandwidth. Which is fine, I've never felt that we had to, you know where it is based on the players.

I agree, we should really see the width of ice *all* the time. Don't focus on a player or where he's going. Show the whole thing, like we'd see if we were there.

The same thing happened in the lax game today (not sure if its the same crew). They would show a player holding the ball behind the cage, and you would have no idea what's going on with the rest of the players in front of the goal and on the rest of the field.

I understand that from your area its tempting to zoom in, but from ours, we just want to see the whole play as if we were there. And don't worry about seeing the ball/puck, its not gonna happen anyway.

And always remember, no matter how much we may comment/criticize, we thank you all for your very hard word and are thrilled the service is available.

Liz '05 · March 12, 2006, 05:56:49 PM

[quote DeltaOne81]And always remember, no matter how much we may comment/criticize, we thank you all for your very hard work and are thrilled the service is available.[/quote]

I meant to second this last night and forgot. Hereby seconded